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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: George on October 19, 2015, 10:27:42 pm
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The trademark is for consoles, amusement machines (slot machines/Pachislots) and medal games. For the record the Japanese franchise name is 'Valkyria of the Battlefield: Gallian Chronicles' so 'Valkyria of the Blue Revolution' isn't far off title.
Did a front page article here:
http://segabits.com/blog/2015/10/19/sega-trademarks-valkyria-of-the-blue-revolution/
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Hope its a next gen PS4 Canvas 2 epic and not some lame HH or mobile game
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Hope its a next gen PS4 Canvas 2 epic and not some lame HH or mobile game
It mostly has descriptions of an Arcade title. It's likely SEGA bringing the series to Arcades.
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When properly Translated:
[Classification of goods and services as well as designated goods or designated services]
Class 9
Programs for the home video game machines, home video game machines for electronic circuits
Class 16
Office or household glue and adhesives, health 手fuki, paper towels
Class 28
Arcade video game machines, arcade video game machines, amusement equipment parts and accessories, medals withdrawal formula arcade game, medal withdrawal type gaming machines, slot machine parts and accessories, machines
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It could be a new MMO online game exclusive for PS4 (lucky guess).
I mean, Revolution seems to refer a lot of characters/users involved in something.
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Revolution doesn't mean a lot of people, it means a change. Usually a forcible overthrow of a government in favour of a new one. It probably refers to the story, perhaps it's based on a civil war.
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It could be a new MMO online game exclusive for PS4 (lucky guess).
I mean, Revolution seems to refer a lot of characters/users involved in something.
The mark description doesn't sound like its an MMO at all.
There's no Class 41 description for online game software and digital game services.
It mostly describes Arcade games and Arcade machines and accessories.
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The mark description doesn't sound like its an MMO at all.
There's no Class 41 description for online game software and digital game services.
It mostly describes Arcade games and Arcade machines and accessories.
There is no reason to believe its an Arcade or slot game more than a home console game, the trademark simply covers all bases. Perhaps it is the re-launch of the series under a new title, considering they painted themselves into a corner with the releases of VC2 and 3 on the PSP.
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There is no reason to believe its an Arcade or slot game more than a home console game, the trademark simply covers all bases. Perhaps it is the re-launch of the series under a new title, considering they painted themselves into a corner with the releases of VC2 and 3 on the PSP.
Until its filed in the WIPO & US Trademark office, we can't be sure what media it will be used for.
Those jurisdictions require specific descriptions and uses, but the JTO is a bit more discrete.
Until then, its all ambiguous speculation at best.(Though it mostly has descriptions for Arcade use.)
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I don't think SRPGs are suitable for Arcades.
And if it's a spin-off with a different genre, then why use the Valkyria IP? It's not like it's popular.
I'm trying to stay hopeful.
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I don't think SRPGs are suitable for Arcades.
And if it's a spin-off with a different genre, then why use the Valkyria IP? It's not like it's popular.
I'm trying to stay hopeful.
We'll find out at a later date.
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I don't think SRPGs are suitable for Arcades.
Well Sega's successfull arcade games today are the deeper genres (RTS, Management Simulation)
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I don't think SRPGs are suitable for Arcades.
And if it's a spin-off with a different genre, then why use the Valkyria IP? It's not like it's popular.
I'm trying to stay hopeful.
One thing I think it is safe to be sure of is that it IS a Valkyria Chronicles title or some sort... 'Valkyria' is a made up word specifically for this title and blue is a major theme of the series. It is without a doubt another Valkyria game which is great because at least the IP isn't abandoned.
It could be a mobile game, but they already made a VC mobile game and shut it down. It could be an Arcade game, though I personally doubt it... If I was to hazard a guess I would say it's a PS Vita or 3DS game... If I was to be extra hopeful I would say they've realised their is money to be made on a multiplatform release and it's a new game for PS4 and Steam. (That would be the dream.)
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(That would be the dream.)
I nearly forgot that 2015 is the year of dreams coming true...
PS4/PC confirmed!
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Well Sega's successfull arcade games today are the deeper genres (RTS, Management Simulation)
Correct. Sega's Arcade business has gotten alot more diverse and progress the past several years.
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Minor spoilers for VC1:
[spoiler]at the end Radi Jaeger hinted that he would return to his homeland of Fhirald and start a rebellion there[/spoiler]
Minor spoilers for VC3:
[spoiler]and in a DLC mission in VC3 hints at this too, with another old man in the party going off to help in these efforts too[/spoiler]
So I feel like it's fairly likely this is going to be about the Fhirald rebellion and be a true sequel at last
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Minor spoilers for VC1:
[spoiler]at the end Radi Jaeger hinted that he would return to his homeland of Fhirald and start a rebellion there[/spoiler]
Minor spoilers for VC3:
[spoiler]and in a DLC mission in VC3 hints at this too, with another old man in the party going off to help in these efforts too[/spoiler]
So I feel like it's fairly likely this is going to be about the Fhirald rebellion and be a true sequel at last
Would be a really exciting stage but knowing SEGA's flagrant disregard for logical next steps I wont hold my breath.
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We say that, but this is the company that out of the blue did the Valkyria Chronicles port on PC, only a brief 6 years after the PS3 version was considered 'non-profitable' and it went on to outsell its console counterpart.
Its not like its been forever since SEGA used the IP, they still use it and still make merch for it. I wouldn't considered it dead, just behind red tape. Its in a real 'pickle' if you will, but I think sales of VC1 in the West probably spearheaded this decision (if its a console/PC game).
2 out of 3 of the main titles where on PSP and like 10% of PC gamers that bought the first one played those. I think its move to PSP probably is what held the franchise from taking off in the west and what got them to slow down on the titles. But who knows.
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I think its move to PSP probably is what held the franchise from taking off in the west and what got them to slow down on the titles. But who knows.
Well, that and the fact that the second game turned the setting into generic, bland highschool anime trash with little to nothing of what made the first one so unique and appealing, which is why the sales were so horrible in the first place. The third game seems much better than the second and closer in theme to the first game but that one never came west so I'll never really know.
Sega mishandled the fuck out of this series the second they finished the first game. I'm still somewhat expecting this game to not be a single player console and be Japan only.
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This is another 'SEGA pandering to the Japanese'. This whole 'high school' setting is a huge fucking trend in Japan. Everything takes place in High School at the moment, even on anime shows. Look at PSO2's anime but it falls in line with all the other anime as well (Parasyte being a new popular one). Something that most JRPGs are starting to get on board with, including the new hit: Persona (which really took off after 3).
Its such a trend there is a page for it on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_anime_and_manga
I think we all here like to think we are into Japanese games because their aimed at Japanese people, but I think a lot of us just like it when these developers do what they want and no pander to people. I think this is the same trend in the US, look at the super 'focused group' game: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. Would it have been great if they didn't pander to all these ideas that the focus group had?
When is it OK to pander to whats popular and when is it time to move your own direction? I think if you scan on SEGA Japan's latest game, 95% of them are pandering anime style games. Yakuza seems to be the only one diverging its own path in style and really being the only one out of all their games that delivers a unique experience.
A lot of fans here disagree with me when I say SEGA Japan in the mid-80s to late 90's really did try to pander to the American/European audience with their games like Outrun, Afterburner, Daytona USA, Crazy Taxi and so on.
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This is another 'SEGA pandering to the Japanese'. This whole 'high school' setting is a huge fucking trend in Japan. Everything takes place in High School at the moment, even on anime shows. Look at PSO2's anime but it falls in line with all the other anime as well (Parasyte being a new popular one). Something that most JRPGs are starting to get on board with, including the new hit: Persona (which really took off after 3).
The problem isn't the setting itself. The problem was that it was a generic as fuck execution. Nothing about it deviated from the bland otaku pandering crap that's still rampant in japan. The 2 examples that you mentioned, Persona and Parasyte are much more than the setting they take place in and don't fall into mere otaku pandering.
They could have done something really good with the the idea of a military school. But Valkyria Chronicles 2 was about soldiers taking their time to check if their favorite idol singer was available for autographs.The problem of Sega is pretty much what you said, they're so fucking scared of taking risks, they go through what's the apparent less risky option when it comes to their games and just inject them with unnecessary mainstream shit.
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Shit's getting real. What could V-Gaje be?
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/sega-trademarks-valkyria-azure-revolution
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Shit's getting real. What could V-Gaje be?
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/sega-trademarks-valkyria-azure-revolution
Perhaps an accompanying app.