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Title: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 10, 2010, 11:28:00 am
I've been divesting myself of my gaming collection for the last two years. DC is the last legacy console I own and my goal is just to have one primary console being the PS3.

With the DC library going digital is it wise to get rid of your DC, accessories and library before they lose value?

Or does nostalgia or other factors ensure it stays in your collection?

Just wondering what people's thoughts were on this.

I'm strongly leaning towards letting it go, but it might not be until the second round of digital titles is announced.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 10, 2010, 11:53:09 am
Fuck no! Keep it yo!

Of the hundreds of games available for the Dreamcast, only two will be available this fall (five if you count the already released Rez, Ikaruga and Virtual On). Even if we get a good chunk of the DC's library within the next few years, you'll be missing out a many features including VMU mini-games, Crazy Taxi's Crazy Box (it wasn't to be seen in the leaked screens) and the fact that the games were designed for and work perfectly on a Dreamcast. While playing Dreamcast games on the 360 and PS3 will be fun and all, nothing will beat the originals as they are just that: originals and not ports.

Also, the upcoming Sonic Adventure is a modified Gamecube version, not Dreamcast, so lol at SEGA calling it the Dreamcast version.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 10, 2010, 12:10:57 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
Fuck no! Keep it yo!

Of the hundreds of games available for the Dreamcast, only two will be available this fall (five if you count the already released Rez, Ikaruga and Virtual On). Even if we get a good chunk of the DC's library within the next few years, you'll be missing out a many features including VMU mini-games, Crazy Taxi's Crazy Box (it wasn't to be seen in the leaked screens) and the fact that the games were designed for and work perfectly on a Dreamcast. While playing Dreamcast games on the 360 and PS3 will be fun and all, nothing will beat the originals as they are just that: originals and not ports.

Also, the upcoming Sonic Adventure is a modified Gamecube version, not Dreamcast, so lol at SEGA calling it the Dreamcast version.

It pisses me off Rez and Ikaruga are on Live and not PSN. There is no way in hell I'm buying a 360 for a few digital games.

I never got into VMU. . .

I just hope the controllers adapt well.

Actually, I have a DC to usb converter but I'm not sure if that will work.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Team Andromeda on June 10, 2010, 12:52:39 pm
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Also, the upcoming Sonic Adventure is a modified Gamecube version, not Dreamcast, so lol at SEGA calling it the Dreamcast version.

I would imagine it will be infact the DC version, has SEGA worked pretty hard to get a working DC emu, and not a GameCube one.


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you'll be missing out a many features including VMU mini-games, Crazy Taxi's Crazy Box (it wasn't to be seen in the leaked screens) and the fact that the games were designed for and work perfectly on a Dreamcast.

Nice points ,

But For me most of the VMU mini  games were pants, and the best use of the VMU in-game was for me NFL 2K (where it could be used to call plays) That's about the one game that made real effective use of out it . And the DC pad is shaped and layout out pretty much like the 360 and PS3 pads, there's no issue there, this isn't a N64 layout there .


I say keep the DC , but pack it away or move into the spare Room. The less wires and consoles I need to keep hooked up on the main TV and in the living room the better
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 10, 2010, 01:02:53 pm
RE: Code Veronica had pretty awesome VMU support, but I get what you're saying. B^)

Check out the screens of SA running on XBLA and you'll notice that the models are definitely from the PC/GC version. If it's not the Gamecube, then it must be a modified version of the PC SA:DX release or a odd mish-mash of DC elements and DX elements.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Team Andromeda on June 10, 2010, 01:22:22 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
RE: Code Veronica had pretty awesome VMU support, but I get what you're saying. B^)

Check out the screens of SA running on XBLA and you'll notice that the models are definitely from the PC/GC version. If it's not the Gamecube, then it must be a modified version of the PC SA:DX release or a odd mish-mash of DC elements and DX elements.

Its made about as much use out of it as Carrier did . You could tell when your character was hurt , just by the animation patterns , and seeing as one had to pause the game to heal, it was a pit pointless . NFL was about the only game that made real effective use out of it In- Game.

And as for Sonic , I'm sure SEGA didn't go to the trouble of making a dam fine DC Emu to port GameCube code . Btw the PC code of Sonic Dx run ok,it was the Cube version that had real issues .

I'm hoping it be DC code here
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 10, 2010, 02:52:27 pm
TA, when did Sega make this damn fine DC emu? I never heard about this. Great if so.

I recently had 5 consoles in my house and I'm down to 3 now. I'm just done with the legacy consoles. . . Jet and Shenmue are keeping my DC alive. The day Jet is announced my DC is going to ebay and then I'll hope Shenmue is not far behind.

I hope Jet doesn't play like crap with a PS3 controller. I wouldn't imagine it would.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: fluffymoochicken on June 10, 2010, 03:09:30 pm
I wouldn't sell it, unless you really think those are the only games worth playing on the Dreamcast.

I can think of several great DC games that will never see the light of day on a downloadable service.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 10, 2010, 03:15:42 pm
I find selling a Dreamcast pointless, as you'll get next to nothing for it. You'd probably make more cash by donating your plasma. (checks google) Yup, $30 a visit. Damn, why aren't I donating plasma?

I broke a Racketboy member's heart when I bought his Dreamcast for $15 and placed its innards into a clear shell. He never stipulated that I couldn't take it apart!

Which reminds me, I still have a broken Dreamcast lying around... gonna have to do something with that (I'm between a Dreamcast lamp or a Dreamcast tissue dispenser)
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: fluffymoochicken on June 10, 2010, 04:03:46 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
Which reminds me, I still have a broken Dreamcast lying around... gonna have to do something with that (I'm between a Dreamcast lamp or a Dreamcast tissue dispenser)
When I was in high school, I always wanted to take my broken Dreamcast, install a wall clock inside of it, attach a strap to the back, and then wear it to school as a gigantic wristwatch.

Man, did I ever love to draw attention to myself back then. Times sure have changed me drastically, huh? (http://http://forums.sega.com/images/icons/icon7.gif)
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 10, 2010, 05:13:20 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
I find selling a Dreamcast pointless, as you'll get next to nothing for it. You'd probably make more cash by donating your plasma. (checks google) Yup, $30 a visit. Damn, why aren't I donating plasma?

It's not really 'Donating' if you get paid though right? Man I used to give blood for free, I was getting jipped!

I agree. Honestly I have never sold a single game I own because it's just not worth it. I would rather keep even a piece of shit like Sonic 06 than sell it for peanuts.

Don't worry about 'value' Eastside, short of something severe and unexpected, prices aren't going to fluctuate that wildly and if they do, it'll probably only be within a range of $100 or so which isn't that much at all.

I say just hold onto it. I never play my Mega Drive anymore now that I can emulate it on everything, but I'm not going to sell the console and games just because I would probably get less than a week's wages for it anyway, and I would lose all those games and part of my collection for next to nothing.

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I broke a Racketboy member's heart when I bought his Dreamcast for $15 and placed its innards into a clear shell. He never stipulated that I couldn't take it apart!

Which reminds me, I still have a broken Dreamcast lying around... gonna have to do something with that (I'm between a Dreamcast lamp or a Dreamcast tissue dispenser)

That's silly on his side, once you sell something there aren't any 'conditions' attached. It's your property and you can do as you wish.

Also, I would try to think up something Game related rather than a tissue box. Personalyl I would go with an arcade stick since that's all I can actually build that is game related anyway, but I'm sure you could think of something.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 10, 2010, 05:37:17 pm
I appreciate your feedback.  Where this is coming from is that I spent the last 2 years between me and a helper getting rid of my gaming collection and it has been a major project.

This crap was just the last round:

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I just more or less swore off having a gaming collection anymore. I only keep a handful of games for PS3 in my library before selling or trading them in.

It's more about letting go of the past for me, as that is something I've had a hard time with.  DC was a wonderful machine but I need to let go of that time and concentrate on being in the present.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 10, 2010, 05:41:55 pm
Well it sounds like you have your reasons for wanting to get rid of it all then. I peronally still play my Dreamcast/Saturn a lot, and wouldn't want to sell them. Just earlier this year I did a full playthrough of Resident Evil Code Veronica, and still play stuff like MSH on Saturn a lot.

Having said that, I know how much you like Shenmue, do you still play it much? If so then I would hold onto the DC even if it's just for the odd playthrough of an old favourite every now and again. I know I would kick myself if I found myself wanting to play through Skies of Arcadia or something one day and sold the console for $20 or something.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 10, 2010, 06:13:27 pm
I replayed RECV recently too.

Yeah, I've never replayed Shenmue though I want to have that option.

The game I play a lot is Jet and that is the one I would miss on a day to day basis.

My plan would be to get rid of the DC hope JGR digital is released soon and then hope for that eventual Shenmue release.

I would also love to see Skies go digital. I made it very far through but never finished it.

I honestly think I would be okay without the other DC games.

I have an original Xbox which is kept only for JSRF which is kind of a pain. I would love to be able to get rid of it but I imagine the chances of a digital release of that are slimmer.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 10, 2010, 06:18:21 pm
You could always get a 360, which is Backwards Compatible with JSRF, and then you could get REZ and all the others you were intereste in as well.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: George on June 10, 2010, 07:00:19 pm
I can just keep my Dreamcast and play my 100+ games.

360 emulation is dodgy at times. I suggest a regular Xbox. They cost 50 dollars. You can even turn it into a media center. Cheap.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: crackdude on June 10, 2010, 07:38:10 pm
I don't see the point.. Then again, I actually buy legacy systems and games so I don't share the same mentality as you do. Maybe when I get married I think she won't like having gaming consoles all over, so I'll get some collections for the PS3 and give everything to a friend or two, so that we play together sometimes. But for now I love playing older games. They have something that doesn't quite translate to new consoles. And playing them on something other than their original console feels iffy.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 10, 2010, 07:51:05 pm
Quote from: "crackdude"
I don't see the point.. Then again, I actually buy legacy systems and games so I don't share the same mentality as you do. Maybe when I get married I think she won't like having gaming consoles all over, so I'll get some collections for the PS3 and give everything to a friend or two, so that we play together sometimes. But for now I love playing older games. They have something that doesn't quite translate to new consoles. And playing them on something other than their original console feels iffy.

Naw man! You can keep your stuff even when married. Now I'm not married myself, but my GF and I have lived together for almost 5 years and things are great despite my sizable collection. Here's what I do: have a dedicated room or space (mine is our computer room) and claim it as the gaming room. If you have too much for the space, put what can't fit or what you don't use as much in storage and take it out when you need it. As for the lady, butter her up (figuratively) by taking her to dinner and buying her flowers right before you make a noticeable purchase and her gaming annoyance will be nullified.

Oh yeah, and despite her not being a gamer at all, I've gotten her to love the 360 via Netflix. I'll bet if I sold it, she'd miss it just as much as I would. lol
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 10, 2010, 09:21:33 pm
Quote from: "MadeManG74"
You could always get a 360, which is Backwards Compatible with JSRF, and then you could get REZ and all the others you were intereste in as well.

lol, I've thought about it, but I really want to go down to one console and unless Yakuza is announced for 360. . .lol. :lol:

Quote from: "George"
I can just keep my Dreamcast and play my 100+ games.

360 emulation is dodgy at times. I suggest a regular Xbox. They cost 50 dollars. You can even turn it into a media center. Cheap.

Yeah, I got a regular Xbox it is my "JSRF" console. I hate having it just for that.

Quote from: "crackdude"
I don't see the point.. Then again, I actually buy legacy systems and games so I don't share the same mentality as you do. Maybe when I get married I think she won't like having gaming consoles all over, so I'll get some collections for the PS3 and give everything to a friend or two, so that we play together sometimes.

Yeah, that is kind of close to my thinking.  Bringing people over and have them see 5 consoles is kind of uncool.

Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
Here's what I do: have a dedicated room or space (mine is our computer room) and claim it as the gaming room. If you have too much for the space, put what can't fit or what you don't use as much in storage and take it out when you need it.

I've centralized my gaming to one room.  I live by myself so it would be kind of odd to have another room for older consoles. Plus I got rid of a ton of junk. You have multiple consoles and controllers and accessories and you have all this crap in your closets. I just got tired of it.  On a personal level it was really time for me to move on.  Change is good.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: SOUP on June 10, 2010, 10:19:44 pm
My Dreamcast collection is my pride and joy.
I may buy a couple of these games again, but I don't see myself selling off any of the ones I already have.

I was talked into selling my Genesis back in the day to get some cash to put towards a new system. I still regret that one. A few of the games I had still aren't out for download, and I'm one of those guys that likes having the physical media.  It looks nice, you've got the manuals/packaging that usually have some pretty nice artwork, plus it gives me more of a sense of actual ownership.  It's kinda dumb, but I feel more like I own something if I can hold it in my hands.
It's the samre reason that I still buy CD's instead of just digital downloads of music. It takes up a stupid amount of space, but it's just the way I am.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Uranus on June 11, 2010, 02:17:31 am
I think because of all of the re-releases that most Dreamcast games will become dirt cheap and likely remain there.

The main reasons I would recommend keeping yours would be that (unless you have an older model) you can just burn any game that you want at any time (some exceptions like D2 and Maken X) and that selling it might just make you regret it sometime down the line. Another reason against not selling it is that it will not bring in much money. It does not hurt to just pack it up in the back of your closet or something, you know?
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 11, 2010, 07:28:27 am
Quote from: "Sega Stylista"
Quote from: "crackdude"
I don't see the point.. Then again, I actually buy legacy systems and games so I don't share the same mentality as you do. Maybe when I get married I think she won't like having gaming consoles all over, so I'll get some collections for the PS3 and give everything to a friend or two, so that we play together sometimes.

Yeah, that is kind of close to my thinking.  Bringing people over and have them see 5 consoles is kind of uncool.

Gotta get new friends! First thing people see when entering our apartment is 5 consoles. My friends think it's cool, and anybody who would ever talk shit about it upon entering would be told to leave.

(http://http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2341/66249268.jpg)
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 11, 2010, 10:51:42 am
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
I think because of all of the re-releases that most Dreamcast games will become dirt cheap and likely remain there.

The main reasons I would recommend keeping yours would be that (unless you have an older model) you can just burn any game that you want at any time (some exceptions like D2 and Maken X) and that selling it might just make you regret it sometime down the line. Another reason against not selling it is that it will not bring in much money. It does not hurt to just pack it up in the back of your closet or something, you know?

I have quite a few CDRs just like I do for Saturn. Actually Shenmue is the only Dreamcast actual game I have after selling them in my last ebay wave.

Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
Quote from: "Sega Stylista"
Quote from: "crackdude"
I don't see the point.. Then again, I actually buy legacy systems and games so I don't share the same mentality as you do. Maybe when I get married I think she won't like having gaming consoles all over, so I'll get some collections for the PS3 and give everything to a friend or two, so that we play together sometimes.

Yeah, that is kind of close to my thinking.  Bringing people over and have them see 5 consoles is kind of uncool.

Gotta get new friends! First thing people see when entering our apartment is 5 consoles. My friends think it's cool, and anybody who would ever talk shit about it upon entering would be told to leave.

(http://http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2341/66249268.jpg)

heh, I had my Saturn next to my PS3 and then the DC, PS2 and Xbox all together.  You would see 5 consoles walking into my place just like your apartment.  I don't care too much what company thinks it was just time to say goodbye to a few of those.  I would like to sell everything and get a slim PS3 if they added BC, I wouldn't give up my 80GB phat for that reason.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Emmett The Crab on June 11, 2010, 11:59:04 am
I have the 3 current-gen consoles, plus a Saturn and a Dreamcast.  I keep hoping someday I'll get all the Master System games I left behind when I sold it in the 90's, and For me there are Genesis games everywhere, so I can play most of the ones I want anyway.

When I sold my Dreamcast, I ended up buying one back later.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: George on June 11, 2010, 12:04:18 pm
If you are worried about what your friends think and you change yourself to impress them, you need new friends. Come as you are.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: Sega Stylista on June 11, 2010, 12:52:36 pm
Quote from: "George"
If you are worried about what your friends think and you change yourself to impress them, you need new friends. Come as you are.

I agree, I don't have a problem with that.  Actually, my friends hate me and want me to die so fuck them.  I'm not going to go into a lot of crap, but I lived out of the gaming glory of the 90's a decade too long and I'm not happy with the circumstances of my life as a consequence.  My getting rid of my consoles is supposed to be an act of personal growth and re-prioritizing my life but it still hurts. It's far less about what anyone thinks than it is letting go of the past. I got rid of a crap ton of collectibles (non-gaming, too) in the last couple of years that were stored away in closets.  I know there are people older than me that are still avid gamers, but I'm pretty sure it was a time for a change in my case.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: crackdude on June 11, 2010, 01:33:50 pm
I have a PS3, a Dreamcast and a Saturn all plugged in. Then I have several others in boxes ready to play (the cables are already plugged into the TV, I got one of those multicables).
My friends think it's all awesome. Still I do realize the immaturity of their age.. If they ever complain well fuck'em lol

Whenever I think I have to let go of somethings, I simply do it. No questions asked.
Title: Re: SA and CT goes digital - time to sell Dreamcast?
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 11, 2010, 04:21:25 pm
Quote from: "Sega Stylista"
Quote from: "George"
If you are worried about what your friends think and you change yourself to impress them, you need new friends. Come as you are.

I agree, I don't have a problem with that.  Actually, my friends hate me and want me to die so fuck them.  I'm not going to go into a lot of crap, but I lived out of the gaming glory of the 90's a decade too long and I'm not happy with the circumstances of my life as a consequence.  My getting rid of my consoles is supposed to be an act of personal growth and re-prioritizing my life but it still hurts. It's far less about what anyone thinks than it is letting go of the past. I got rid of a crap ton of collectibles (non-gaming, too) in the last couple of years that were stored away in closets.  I know there are people older than me that are still avid gamers, but I'm pretty sure it was a time for a change in my case.

IT sounds to me like getting rid of your Dreamcast is hinging a lot more on a very personal reason rather than value/convenience etc, which means we can't really advise you on what to do.

I'm sure you'll come up with the right decision yourself, and if not, well at least you can emulate Dreamcast games now right?  :P