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Title: SEGA Central
Post by: Mariano on May 04, 2016, 09:41:48 pm
Hi guys, i dont remember if there is a topic about this yet, but i will start one anyway.
I am pretty sure all you know abut this series of videos SEGA has in their SEGA Eupore youtube channel, but i thought it was a good idea to have a topic dedicate to this.


They release a new video every wednesday. In today video they answear a few Questions from some fans. Here check it out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdyAgPDe9rI


If you have some questions ask there, the next week they will answear them.


See you later.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Centrale on May 05, 2016, 12:29:15 pm
"Are there any plans to bring more Dreamcast games to Steam?"
"We've got some exciting plans, but you're just going to have to wait and see."

Hmmm.... better not be bluffin', Mr. Muffin.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Sharky on May 08, 2016, 04:58:32 am
I was thinking we should have a topic for SEGA Central, good call.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Mariano on May 11, 2016, 01:11:17 pm
Here is the latest Video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvoX2kb2X0


Featuring some very interesting answears and the unboxing of VC Remastered
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Tad on May 11, 2016, 02:00:09 pm
Did...did they just confirm the existence of Shenmue?

:)
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Sharky on May 11, 2016, 02:35:44 pm
Great episode!
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: max_cady on May 12, 2016, 02:56:32 am
Man, my Shenmue memories are a bit rusty. Was there anything licensed in any of the Shenmue games? The beverages? Businesses? Shops? I do recall that Crazy Taxi's re-release had to remove references to Pizza Hut, KFC as well as Offspring and Bad Religions soundtrack, which I admit harmed the game's re-release.


But possible Dreamcast games on Steam... Now that's got me curious... 'cause Skies of Arcadia is the one other major title I can think of. I mean, Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 have already been released, Jet Set Radio too, Daytona USA as well, Chu Chu Rocket is on Android. SEGA published around 40 games on Dreamcast, about half of those outside of Japan.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2016, 03:52:34 am
Man, my Shenmue memories are a bit rusty. Was there anything licensed in any of the Shenmue games?
Timex
(https://zoyastreet.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/timex.jpg)

Zippo
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/shenmue/images/9/9a/HeavensZippo.jpg)

CocaCola
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HAfyW2Mw3UI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Team Andromeda on May 12, 2016, 05:00:18 am
Timex
(https://zoyastreet.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/timex.jpg)

Zippo
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/shenmue/images/9/9a/HeavensZippo.jpg)



CocaCola
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HAfyW2Mw3UI/maxresdefault.jpg)






That can always been changed and most it was for the Western version . I guess they could be some issues with the rights to the music and voice acting  but that easily sorted out .
Think SEGA should be more honest about it really and I doubt they would even talk about it , if they did have a Shenmue HD collection in the works and ready to go
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2016, 05:55:39 am
I wish Sega didn't just remaster the visuals, but twitched some aspects of the game.
The streets could be more crowded, the sound could be clear 5.1, revamp the controls.. Little touches.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Team Andromeda on May 12, 2016, 11:46:50 am
I wish Sega didn't just remaster the visuals, but twitched some aspects of the game.
The streets could be more crowded, the sound could be clear 5.1, revamp the controls.. Little touches.

That sounds more like a remake and that would really be a huge amount of work
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2016, 12:00:22 pm
That sounds more like a remake and that would really be a huge amount of work
Not really.. The street crowd is controlled by an algorithm. Control mapping and recovering old better quality soundclips (if they still exist) is hardly a remake.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Tad on May 12, 2016, 12:07:34 pm
Yeah, that would mostly be just improvements like the Jet Set Radio re release had.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Team Andromeda on May 14, 2016, 06:38:05 am
Yeah, that would mostly be just improvements like the Jet Set Radio re release had.

To a point, but JSR was just your standard HD re release. Adding more characters would mean designing them , changing the programme to handle more polygons and the AI code to make sure it all works . Didn't Shenmue AI cause all sorts of issues with the number of NPC trying to fit inside the doors of the shop in the original? 
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Moody on May 14, 2016, 03:47:30 pm
The term y'all are looking for is 'remaster', the sort of in-between of re-release and remake. A re-release is the original game with next-to-no improvements or new features; the standard is typically fixing framerate issues and making the game widescreen, but those are by no means very prevalent. Most really older games, say pre-Dreamcast, just get a straight re-release on a digital platform. A remake is a total ground-up project made from scratch with modern hardware and sensibilities in mind. A remaster is when you release the old game with a handful of tweaks not found in the original, but the game is still largely the same.

Take Jet Set Radio HD vs. Sonic Adventure 2 HD. SA2 was a straight re-release of the Gamecube remaster, providing no new features or tweaks, and not even bundling the exclusive Gamecube content with the game, you gotta buy that separately. JSR HD provided the (almost) full soundtrack, a documentary, camera control, new graffiti, framerate fixes, unlockable tracks, and after its release, faster load times.

So, with all that said, I agree a Shenmue remaster is definitely doable and would be fantastic. Tweaking the controls to allow for better dual-analog support (though d-pad and analog stick worked well for the Xbox version of Shenmue II), widescreen, maybe adding support for Japanese audio and English subtitles for both games, easy cross-save, 5.1 surround, and tweaks to Shenmue I brought over from Shenmue II. Those are what I would want the most out of a remaster, nothing /especially/ fancy. Hell, just asking for more than a straight, vanilla re-release of Shenmue on modern platforms seems a bit greedy at this point.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: MykonosFan on May 17, 2016, 10:53:34 pm
SA2 HD did feature some tweaks, 16:9, HUD changes, some audio overlap being fixed (iirc), adding back in some of the Big cameos, etc though granted most of those are very minor. It also had a short documentary video included. Was never crazy about the "take things out from the game and sell it back to you as DLC" route continuing from SA1 HD, though...


That all said, JSR definitely got the better end of the deal. It also made it to Vita, would've liked to see SA2 and NiGHTS make it there. So sad that the "Heritage" line stopped there, hard to believe it's been about 3 1/2 years since then.






EDIT: New SEGA Central.
https://youtu.be/AMqTghgwtyA (https://youtu.be/AMqTghgwtyA)



Notable news: It's up to ATLUS with regards to European distribution, not SEGA. No plans for 7th Dragon in Europe, but are looking into it. "Rest assured we are working on other PC port projects right now."


And as the title suggests, a little about Motorsport Manager is shown and talked about.
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Mariano on May 25, 2016, 05:54:39 pm
New Episode of SEGA Central guys:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh2s6TfD1P8




-They are giving away a copy of TW:Warhammer "High King edition"
-Giving some free codes for Steam
-Answering some questions
-Company of heroes 2 is having some Skins giveaway about V.Chronicles for the tanks
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Mariano on June 02, 2016, 07:14:26 pm
Here is the last episode guys:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO-Rr1snUhw
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Mariano on June 09, 2016, 04:57:15 pm
The last episode talk a bit about the E3:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQEfbscAlXA
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Mariano on August 10, 2016, 07:34:17 pm
SEGA Central will have a "live" show tomorrow:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUxJesBB0U
Title: Re: SEGA Central
Post by: Barry the Nomad on August 22, 2016, 09:51:40 am
SEGA Central's viewership numbers have been abysmal, and I gotta say that the content and presentation is pretty tone deaf to what SEGA fans actually want. While I get that the live shows are attempting to have a direct connection with fans, they mostly replay old trailers and spend way too much time on the RTS PC stuff. Handing out download codes and yelling "WOO!" isn't very exciting.