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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Sega Uranus on June 30, 2010, 03:56:10 pm
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I think it is best to make something like this or else people like Sharky will just never try to think of a real argument and think we are all always just trying to be 'nitpicky'.
You can all join in and say new things you like, the only rules are that you have to be certain it was a design change after the franchises' last major artistic overhaul with Sonic Adventure.
-I like the colored eyes of the characters. I think it adds to all of their personalities and they usually are meshed well with the characters main colors. Most of the characters barely have any personality anymore, but these are always done well IMO.
-I like how all of the characters outside of Rouge and robots bend their arms and legs like rubber instead of normal appendages. I think it looks nice and is an interesting touch.
-I like most of their voices outside of the scenes when they have to talk about serious stuff. While I would prefer them not talk at all, I think most of the voices chosen are goofy still and work with the characters personalities pretty well, usually.
-I like how most releases in the series try a lot of new ideas. While they almost never work, I appreciate that they try, even if sometimes it is hard to tell if I am even playing a Sonic game anymore.
-I like that most of the characters get their own kind of style of music for their levels, it is a neat touch.
-I like ranking system they use in the games now. It has never really been good at all since Sonic Adventure 2, but I still like that it is there!
I might have some more later if I can think of some other stuff.
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-I like how demographic researched game design has replaced Sonic's old counter-culture soul and created with modern Sonic a useful tool for pedophiles and children who will grow up to be one.
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I like how insanely fast the 3D games can get. (and yes, I know I argue this breaks gameplay... well it didn't in Adventure)
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-I like how in Sonic06 Sonic's spikes are longer to show how mature he is now.
-I like how Sonic now bangs princesses and shit.
(wait. it's not a sarcasm thread?)
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I would say I've liked a lot of the changes for the modern games, some are better than others, but aside from the characters having potty mouths in the Shadow the Hedgehog game I can't think of anything I dislike.
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We, more like I!
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I actually like how Sonic's eyes are green.
I also thought Sonic's SOAP shoes were great in Sonic Adventure 2.
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I like that the Super Sonic bits are built into the story, and not just a reward for going out of your way to beat bonus stages.
Except in Heroes and the portable games.
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Basically everything in Sonic Unleasheds Sonic Model was perfect. The classic Sonic model was likeable for the time but the new one is miles better looking as far as character design goes.
There were some shitty ones in the middle though... His Sonic Aventure 2, Sonic Heroes and Sonic 06 ones were pretty terrible.
Also good way to start the thread... You complaining about Sonics mouth being where it has always been was CLEARLY not nitpicking. What was I thinking! It's so important to the flow of the game and such.
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I like Shadow The Hedgehog, he is the Ken Masters if Sonic is Ryu or maybe the other way aroung as Sonic is faster than Shadow.
I like Princess Elise, she's better than Amy.
I liked the Kick/Slide they introduced in Sonic 06 it was better than the roll from Sonic Adventure 2 as it was faster.
I like the Light Speed Dash it was especially alot of fun in the Mach speed segments of Sonic 06.
I like the Homing attack in 3D.
For now this is enough.
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chao's can be fun
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Chaos. Everyone Seems to like Chaos.
Blaze the Cat is the best new character since Knuckles. Fuck Shadow.
I love the Rush and Advance series.
Secret Rings was good.
I agree that the Unleashed model is the best.
They finally got Sonic in 3-D right with Unleashed and Colors.
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I HATE BLAZE.
Shadow was pretty fresh when he was introduced.
I think the best models were the Sonic Adventure 2 ones. They were very nicely textured as well. Sonic Heroes has god awful textures, Sonic 06 has terrible models. Sonic Unleashed is very very good, but I liked the items you'd collect with the characters in SA2.
Sonic Adventure 2 is Sonic's best 3D game. I liked the rail grinding they added. It was a pain at first, but when you get used to it it's very fun.
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I HATE BLAZE.
Shadow was pretty fresh when he was introduced.
I think the best models were the Sonic Adventure 2 ones. They were very nicely textured as well. Sonic Heroes has god awful textures, Sonic 06 has terrible models. Sonic Unleashed is very very good, but I liked the items you'd collect with the characters in SA2.
Sonic Adventure 2 is Sonic's best 3D game. I liked the rail grinding they added. It was a pain at first, but when you get used to it it's very fun.
Not sure how Shadow was even fresh it's just a bloody Sonic recolour and the same shitty anti hero personality from every Anime EVER MADE, EVER.
No, Sonics model in SA2 would have been ALRIGHT if Sonic didnt have such stupid shoes that look like sports trainers. Sonic shoes are very character iconic don't go chaning them.
Which makes Sonic Unleashes model STILL the best.
Urm... In my opinion.
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Not sure how Shadow was even fresh it's just a bloody Sonic recolour and the same shitty anti hero personality from every Anime EVER MADE, EVER.
No, Sonics model in SA2 would have been ALRIGHT if Sonic didnt have such stupid shoes that look like sports trainers. Sonic shoes are very character iconic don't go chaning them.
Which makes Sonic Unleashes model STILL the best.
Urm... In my opinion.
If you want you can even argue that Sonic Adventure 2 somehow ripped off Jekyll and Hyde. That's not the point. The point is it was nicely implemented into the plot, which was both serious and lighthearted at the same time.
I liked the shoes.
In fact, most people I used to play the game with used to say they were a great design change. I'm not a purist. I don't really care about what his shoes look like, but those trainers looked darn nice (marketing plot aside).
Sonic Unleashed's Sonic is also shorter.
humm.. in my opinion.
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But were talking about the best Sonic model... and I really dont ever want to see those trainers ever again... let alone used for every Sonic game.
As for Shadow, I liked the character back it came out and I was 15... Everytime I replay the game since he just gets more and more lame.
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But were talking about the best Sonic model... and I really dont ever want to see those trainers ever again... let alone used for every Sonic game.
As for Shadow, I liked the character back it came out and I was 15... Everytime I replay the game since he just gets more and more lame.
Yeah, in every Sonic game would be tiresome..
I know this would upset some fans maybe, but personally I'd like it if Sonic had different shoe design every game. Always red-white-red of course, but with different styles..
I guess each time you play the game everything becomes more predictable of course. I think what killed everything about Shadow was everything after SA2. At the end of SA2 he dies. Ok, heroic epic awesome in a furry kind of way. Then he resurrects(?) for Sonic Heroes. That made no sense.
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I can still remember when Shadow was that one-off character that died in SA2 and was rather cool. Sort of like how for a while Knuckles was a neutral character, like Boba Fett, and a tough SOB.
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I also have to agree with everyone on Sonic's model in Unleashed. I think it is by far the best 3D model of him to date, and it would be an extreme shame if they ever replaced before this console generation is up.
Even though they constantly add too many characters and most are boring, the only one I really hate is Silver. I just do not see how anyone can like him and think he goes up against everything the series is about.
The best part of Shadow's game was how they had those rockets from Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2, but this time they would shoot you into the sky then turned into a parachute which you could jump off of if you wanted to speed up the fall. This is an extremely good idea and I think it should be in all of the 3D Sonic games games from here on out. Remove those rainbow rings and put these in!
Also good way to start the thread... You complaining about Sonics mouth being where it has always been was CLEARLY not nitpicking. What was I thinking! It's so important to the flow of the game and such.
I only had a minor complaint about when Sonic talks now it looks like he has only just barely survived a stroke. It was just one sentence and a minor complaint about me thinking Sonic Team is retarded, but you keep going on about it. Grow up and stop trying to pretend it has always been that way, I have proven it was not.
I liked the Kick/Slide they introduced in Sonic 06 it was better than the roll from Sonic Adventure 2 as it was faster.
It was first in Sonic Heroes I think, and personally I would just prefer him rolling. Not the somersault, but you know... Just general rolling. He is a hedgehog, that is what hedgehogs do.
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By New Sonic, I assume you're talking about Adventure onwards, correct?
Then I'll go out on a limb and say it: The Adventure games, as well as Sonic Heroes, had some of the best music the series has to offer. SA1 actually has my single favorite soundtrack from the Sonic series, which is no small feat. It was a logical evolution of the classic style, but it rocked harder and was just cheesy enough to really capture the feel of the levels. It was also fittingly nostalgic.
Case in point: SA1 offered both the kickass "Bad Taste Aquarium" (for Hot Shelter) (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMM5t0YttEg) and the sentimental "At Dawn" (for Speed Highway) (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1mIwxKiT9U). These pieces are quintessential Sonic, and fit right alongside classics like Sonic the Hedgehog 2's soundtrack. Unfortunately, since then, there have been several duds in the soundtrack department (see Sonic and the Secret Rings, the Sonic Rush games), and I'm not sure about too many of the post-Heroes Sonic games as a whole, but at least initially, the music wasn't half-bad.
I really hope they stick to the J-Pop/ J-Rock style that the original games had in future entries, because Senoue really did a good job when Sonic debuted in 3D.
I also agree that Sonic Unleashed's model is the best 3D one, but I still prefer the classic model from the old games, so it's not really a step up overall.
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That first song is garbage and I really dont care for the second song either.
Sonic needs a new model in 3d if they used the old one it would probly look just as good as this http://www.segashiro.com/wp-content/upl ... ar-ASR.jpg (http://www.segashiro.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Ristar-ASR.jpg)
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I have been really dissapointed since sonic adventure 2. I hated how sonic kinda lost his identity and was all serious all of a sudden. People complained and what did we get? Too kiddy sonic games. They just missed the point. The quality sucked as well so I was kind of losing hope. But now... in the year of 2010 things look their recovering.
Sonic colors just gives this oldschool vibe to it. They seemed to have tweaked and polished a lot of sonic unleashed's controls. Dumbed down the boost making it slower and the boosting bar empty's a lot faster. Also the contols look to be less slippery and platforming plays a big role in the game(sweet mountain video).
If there's something i'm happy about with modern sonic, it's not specifically something I like about the new age sonic, but how sonic is actually slowly resembling more of the older style.
It's been anounced that the story for sonic colors will be made by those who did the story of madworld. Hope this turns out well. They might nail a sonicstory for once.
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It's been anounced that the story for sonic colors will be made by those who did the story of madworld. Hope this turns out well. They might nail a sonicstory for once.
What?... Madworld the black and white Wii game full of gore?
When was this announced and who are these writers?
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It's been anounced that the story for sonic colors will be made by those who did the story of madworld. Hope this turns out well. They might nail a sonicstory for once.
What?... Madworld the black and white Wii game full of gore?
When was this announced and who are these writers?
http://seganeptune.com/2010/06/19/mad-w ... wait-what/ (http://seganeptune.com/2010/06/19/mad-world-writers-involved-with-sonic-colors-storyline-wait-what/)
That’s because there will be a story component within the game, according to writer Arthur Gies. Sonic storylines of late have been a touch hokey, but if you’re automatically tossing Sonic Colors in the same realm as SBK or Sonic Unleashed from this news, Gies offers an interesting footnote to the lead:
While I didn’t get to see any story aspects of Sonic Colors, Izuka and US producer Patrick Reilly mentioned that American writers (whose previous credits include Madworld — yes, that Madworld) have been hired to create a story for the game that both adults and kids can get into.
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It's been anounced that the story for sonic colors will be made by those who did the story of madworld. Hope this turns out well. They might nail a sonicstory for once.
What?... Madworld the black and white Wii game full of gore?
When was this announced and who are these writers?
http://seganeptune.com/2010/06/19/mad-w ... wait-what/ (http://seganeptune.com/2010/06/19/mad-world-writers-involved-with-sonic-colors-storyline-wait-what/)
That’s because there will be a story component within the game, according to writer Arthur Gies. Sonic storylines of late have been a touch hokey, but if you’re automatically tossing Sonic Colors in the same realm as SBK or Sonic Unleashed from this news, Gies offers an interesting footnote to the lead:
While I didn’t get to see any story aspects of Sonic Colors, Izuka and US producer Patrick Reilly mentioned that American writers (whose previous credits include Madworld — yes, that Madworld) have been hired to create a story for the game that both adults and kids can get into.
Hype rising.
I hope for the same kind of kids and adult friendly humour in movies like Toy Story and Shrek. I have faith in those writers and I'm glad it's not written in Japan.
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Hype rising.
I hope for the same kind of kids and adult friendly humour in movies like Toy Story and Shrek. I have faith in those writers and I'm glad it's not written in Japan.
I got into a discussion the other day about how I'd totally love a Sonic movie if it were directed by Pixar. Honestly, they could make people weep about toys--they could make a sentimental, and simultaneously funny, story about Sonic.
I'm not familiar with MadWorld myself, but I've heard good things about it. I've always believed Sonic's story has potential. Sonic 3 and Knuckles actually had shockingly good presentation and a decent story for its time. Um...I generally prefer Japanese storytelling. Love JRPG's. It's just Sonic Team that's fucked up.
That said, it will be the gameplay that redeems the game, and I'm not in the mood to buy into the "Sonic Cycle" right now. This could be a collaborative effort between Miyamoto, Suzuki, and Yuji Naka and I'd still be skeptical.
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Yuji Naka is awwwright.
I really liked that Sonic anime in the 90's.
Something like that from Sonic X's creators would be nice too. I also loved that Night of the Werehog animation. Sega should put some thought in for a movie if these new games turn out good.
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I really liked that Sonic anime in the 90's.
STRANGE ISN'T IT!?
Also, Knuckles needs to wear that hat again.
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Knuckles should wear that hat always.
Robotnik's design was funnier back then as well. Never understood why they changed it.