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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: MadeManG74 on August 15, 2010, 12:48:56 am
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You've waited 13 years already, so what's another few months? Reports are suggesting that the comically delayed and subsequently cancelled Duke Nukem Forever has been resurrected, with Borderlands developer Gearbox tasked with taking the project to the finishing line.
Having begun in 1997, development on Duke Nukem Forever had seemingly halted after the game's development staff at 3D Realms were let go in May last year. Due to 3D Realms failure to complete the game it was sued for breach of contract by publisher Take-Two, a matter that was resolved earlier this year.
But that's not where Duke Nukem Forever's story ends, it seems. A report on Kotaku suggests that Duke is alive and that Gearbox would be taking the game to completion. Sources at both Take-Two and Gearbox are remaining tight-lipped, although it wouldn't be the first time that the Borderlands developer was associated with the cigar-chomping action hero; Gearbox was outed as the company behind Duke Begins, a project that was scrapped before it ever saw the light of day.
The reports claim that more could be revealed at September's PAX, and that a playable demo could even emerge as soon as this year.
The story of Duke Nukem Forever is a strange and unique one – could this be the final twist in the tale? We'll bring you more as we hear it.
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1111626p1.html (http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1111626p1.html)
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I can see Gearbox doing it justice. Everyone who has played early builds has said the game is amazing and a lot of it seemed like it was completed from what was released of those videos released last year, so it really could not be too hard to finish I would imagine.
Duke Nukem 3D is one of my favorite games ever, I would be extremely happy to see this turn out.
FUN FACT: The guy who voices Duke Nukem also was the original voice actor for Big the Cat. I get endless hilarity out of this.
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Always bet on Big the Cat.
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I can see Gearbox doing it justice. Everyone who has played early builds has said the game is amazing and a lot of it seemed like it was completed from what was released of those videos released last year, so it really could not be too hard to finish I would imagine.
Have you ever been a programmer before? If not, then yeah, you couldn't imagine.
Although, truth be told, the engine programming might already be complete. In which case, all they would have to do is finish the other aspects, such as the levels, the artwork, and so on. Seeing this game completed would be on the level of a Christmas miracle. ^^;;;
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It's like the 3rd return of Christ. Except with more babes.
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There's is no friggin' way this game will ever live up to the hype it has generated. It can't.
I think that game's source code is cursed, it's already cost 3D Realms their job, so Gearbox better watch it.
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I can see Gearbox doing it justice. Everyone who has played early builds has said the game is amazing and a lot of it seemed like it was completed from what was released of those videos released last year, so it really could not be too hard to finish I would imagine.
Have you ever been a programmer before? If not, then yeah, you couldn't imagine.
Yeah, I have been actually.
My point is that Gearbox is known for quality (I never played much of their stuff, but yeah!). I do not really see how they could make it suck, especially when they can just look at DN3D for inspiration... Or it's billions of fan edits.
There's is no friggin' way this game will ever live up to the hype it has generated. It can't.
I think that game's source code is cursed, it's already cost 3D Realms their job, so Gearbox better watch it.
The biggest reason the game has taken so long is they keep starting over. I think the engine it is on now was the third version of DNF.
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There's is no friggin' way this game will ever live up to the hype it has generated. It can't.
I think that game's source code is cursed, it's already cost 3D Realms their job, so Gearbox better watch it.
I think the last ounce of hype this game had was, what, 8 years ago? This feels more like an urban legend now, if anything.
Almost tempted to say Dook Nyukem in the dark to the bathroom mirror now to see what happens...
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2 years ago when the trailer was released the game rose to the top of most talked about charts, before that when that tiny screen shot was released.
Every time their is a drop of Duke News people go crazy, he is that powerful.
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It's weird when you think about it. All right, Master Chief, an icon. Marcus Fenix, an icon in Gears of War. But Duke Nuken who stopped being relevant since like 1997, still seems to be something a lot people hold onto it. Heck, Matt Hazard is a parody of how a Duke Nukem would be like today.
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It's weird when you think about it. All right, Master Chief, an icon. Marcus Fenix, an icon in Gears of War. But Duke Nuken who stopped being relevant since like 1997, still seems to be something a lot people hold onto it. Heck, Matt Hazard is a parody of how a Duke Nukem would be like today.
Marcus Fenix isn't half of an icon as Duke.
Duke and Master Chief marked two different generations of gamers.
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Why do people keep saying he's not relevant aside from the Mobile Games all his games have been received well.
Duke Nukem Time To Kill 98/99
Duke Nuke Land of the Babes 99/00
Duke Nukem Manhattan Project 2001
Manhattan Project was released this decade, and we have 5 Duke Nukem games in development currently DNF, DNB, and then there are the 3 games - trilogy - for DS/PSP...
How is he any less relevant than any other Alien Ass Kicker, that crappy Sega game Conduit, wasn't that also about a soul savior of humanity against Aliens as well.
Duke Nukem is simply the character of Doom, with Arnold Schwaznegger, Bruce Campbell and Clint Eastwood fucked into him.
"Give me some sugar baby" "Hail to the king" all lines directly from Bruce Campbell and since people are still dying for Evil Dead 4, Expendables (Arnie) and whatever Clint Eastwood is known for, how can Duke ever be anything less, he is the digital incarnation of all the Bad Ass Action movie Superstars!
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Those two new portable games were canceled though.
I remember reading reports from some journalists stating that they did not believe the graphics in the DS version were even possible. There were some demos floating around some years ago.
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The graphics of the DS version are shit just like every other 3D DS games
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I haven't heard of them being cancelled
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Expendables (Arnie)
HOLD UP!
Expendables is all about Stallone!
Apart from that, I agree with most of what you said! :afroman:
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I couldn't think of an upcomming Arnie movie that somebody would be dying for, his 2 projects on Hiatus are King Conan and True Lies 2.
Given the reboot of Conan is in post production, even if King Conan comes out someday it won't be with Arnie and True Lies 2 as awesome as it may be will never happen, and given that Terminator properly ended with the second installment and all future projects have just failed their was no point in mentioning another Terminator movie.
Perhaps people some one some where is dying to see Arnold return in Predator 3, he was suppose to reprise his role in AVP, but since the Predator franchise has left Earth and moved to their native planet that project will also never happen, nonetheless Arnie is still relevant no matter what his next film will be their will be crazy hype.
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Duke Nukem is simply the character of Doom, with Arnold Schwaznegger, Bruce Campbell and Clint Eastwood fucked into him.
:lol: Well met.
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I checked DukeNukem.com and this is being done by 4 developers.
Piranha Games who is doing the Xbox 360 and PS3 ports of DNF.
3D Realms, Trypich Games and Gearbox Software are apparentely doing the PC game, tweaking and stuff.
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Bit concerned about the graphics and any dated mechanics since it's been so long. But sounds like it has many modern features and it's in good hands with Gearbox. Really excited for Duke Nukem Forever.
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My gripe is that you can only carry around 2 weapons as it seems? That's not good at all!
I love the "kill to get health" Ego system.
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Bit concerned about the graphics and any dated mechanics since it's been so long.
If they actually concern you, then you're probably not in the right audience for this game. :P
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way to go, clean sheet
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Bit concerned about the graphics and any dated mechanics since it's been so long.
If they actually concern you, then you're probably not in the right audience for this game. :P
What are you talking about the graphics are indeed concerning even to the biggest of Duke fans, no body can deny that we expected the game to look better.
Although this would have been less an issue, if the game met it's last years summer release, and it would've never been a problem if it came out christmas 2008.
What have they been doing the last 2 years? My guess is that the game is going to be very very lengthy, hence why the graphics haven't been updated. Although that doesn't explain why the character model's.
If Nagoshi can give the Yakuza environments an early over haul, why can't gear box?
Yu Suzuki gave Shenmue Saturn a relatively quick overall as well, given AM2 pumped out multiple games for Arcade and Dreamcast.
The studio has about 2 months more to work on the game, if they want to release it on Christmas (I know they are saying 2011, but it will probably be earlier).
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All of the Duke Nukem games had at least good graphics for the time.
Hopefully they will use some of that potential processing power on more enemies on screen at once or something, that would be... Dare I say it... Bitchin'!
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Hopefully Gearbox isn't doing too many games at once. They called Borderlands a franchise, obviously they are working on a new one for that, then there is a new Brothers in Arms games, a unannounced Pitchfork game, they confirmed Aliens: Colonial Marines is still in the works, and lastly this game.
A bit much, no?
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Am I oldfashioned to think that games come out better and faster if the studios work on one project at time?
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I don't think so. I mean, most of the big studios right now that are 'very popular' and have won awards have done one game at a time.
Gearbox is pretty big though, it has 170 employees according to the WIKI site.
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What are you talking about the graphics are indeed concerning even to the biggest of Duke fans, no body can deny that we expected the game to look better.
No they aren't. The "biggest" Duke fans will be happy just to even be able to play the damn game. For the longest time, it appeared that it would be lost to them forever.
If you're bothered by outdated graphics and gameplay, then this just isn't the game for you. The people who want to try it are interested for other reasons. Some people will play it for nostalgia's sake. Some people will want to see what all the fuss was about. Some people will even play this game for the same reason they watch awful, cheesy movies: it's low-brow trash entertainment. But nobody should be walking into it thinking it's a Half-Life killer with graphics that put Rage to shame or whatever. All anyone should expect is a mindless shooter game with an immature, misogynistic 12 year old mentality; one where guns and explosives solve all of the world's problems and where women are objects that are only good for fucking and for making dinner.
If someone is looking for an excellent game or a GOTY contender, chances are this isn't going to be it.
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It's an old-school no-bullshit shooter.
As long as character and gun models look nice, explosions are big, and the areas interesting, the graphics will be fine. Minimum graphical level expected would be something in the lines of Prey.
But, in contradiction with fluffy, this is meant to be an excellent game (that's the whole excuse for being in development for 14 years). And as such, it is a possible contender to GOTY.
It's like a cheesy 90's movie. If released today with all the best actors of back then it would stand out and possibly be more entertaining than any other 2010 film.
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Hopefully Gearbox isn't doing too many games at once. They called Borderlands a franchise, obviously they are working on a new one for that, then there is a new Brothers in Arms games, a unannounced Pitchfork game, they confirmed Aliens: Colonial Marines is still in the works, and lastly this game.
A bit much, no?
The team working on a game changes size depending on the stage of the project. Some of those titles you mentioned may still be in pre-production. While a small number of elements work on design concepts and such, the majority are building the actual game. Apart from that, we don't know if they outsource some of the work as well.
There was a time Sonic Team had a number of games in production (Samba, PSO, Adventure 2, Chu Chu...?) and they all ended up being pretty good. It's a matter of allotting your resources.
Gearbox is a reliable developer.
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No they aren't. The "biggest" Duke fans will be happy just to even be able to play the damn game. For the longest time, it appeared that it would be lost to them forever.
I feel like ripping your head off and shitting down your neck!
First of all I fall in the category of biggest Duke Fans.
I have finished Total Meltdown, Time To Kill, Land of the Babes and Manhattan Project. Had I owned an N64 I would've even finished Zero Hour.
Am I happy to see the game is coming out, you bet your fluffyness I am!
Do I think the graphics are a concern, you bet your fluffyness I am!
Is it going to let that stop me from buying the game, not really.
If you're bothered by outdated graphics and gameplay, then this just isn't the game for you.
First of all nobody is worried about the games gameplay, we all know it is going to be awesome in every way. Several die hard fans interviewed at Pax expressed concerns about the graphics, it is offensive when you say the game isn't for me.
The people who want to try it are interested for other reasons. Some people will play it for nostalgia's sake. Some people will want to see what all the fuss was about. Some people will even play this game for the same reason they watch awful, cheesy movies: it's low-brow trash entertainment.
So the developers spent 13 years developing a game and the graphics weren't a primary concern, if that was the case they would've released it 10 years ago. They wouldn't have bothered with the engine change cause Duke gameplay alone would've made the game a legend.
But nobody should be walking into it thinking it's a Half-Life killer with graphics that put Rage to shame or whatever. All anyone should expect is a mindless shooter game with an immature, misogynistic 12 year old mentality; one where guns and explosives solve all of the world's problems and where women are objects that are only good for fucking and for making dinner.
If someone is looking for an excellent game or a GOTY contender, chances are this isn't going to be it.
George Broussard wanted the game to be Half-Life Killer, he did not want it to be GOTY, he wanted it be GOT - DECADE! that is why it took 13 years!!!! That is why the game started from scratch 4 times!
Look every one is going to buy this game, if they released the UNREAL-2001 build of the game today, I would've bought it!
Don't say the graphics aren't concerning cause they are!
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Yes, but should we expect for it to be graphically groundbreaking?
I expect nice graphics, but not anything revolutionary.
And quite frankly, it's hard to look worse than the Source engine these days.
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I'll wait before I cast stones on this game. Again, people are saying "IT HAS BEEN 14 YEARS IT SHOULD LOOK AMAZING!"
It has not been in development for that long. Most likely 2 years, maximum, since Gearbox picked up the game.
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A demo is likely. Cool stuff.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010- ... emo-likely (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-07-duke-nukem-forever-demo-likely)
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I'll wait before I cast stones on this game. Again, people are saying "IT HAS BEEN 14 YEARS IT SHOULD LOOK AMAZING!"
It has not been in development for that long. Most likely 2 years, maximum, since Gearbox picked up the game.
More like 18 months, the thing is the game is being finished by Gear Box, the game was made by 3D Realms and the demo that people played at Pax was like an year old.
The Stadium Boss fight, and the Monster Truck Desert were all seen last year when Gameplay videos were leaked along with other sets not featured in the Pax Hands On.
From what I've seen the graphics look identical.
Look at the difference accomplished between Yakuza 3 and 4, this is the graphical difference I want to see in the 2008 build of Duke Vs the released one.
Not to much to ask for, but as I said GearBox appears to be working on parts of the game that haven't been revealed, it is common knowledge that Duke will be a very lengthy game, so the team at the moment may be finishing stages asap rather than enhancing details.
But they claim to be polishing, and if that is the case they better polish up the graphics before it comes out.
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Add bloom, bump up the contrast, add flare, use old Duke3D textures in a level for comical effect. Use rest of development time to come up with cheesy one-liners.
It's good.