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Title: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on August 18, 2010, 10:35:26 am
http://http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=19022&st=495&p=492723&#entry492723

Don't know if it's true or not, but it's something to think about.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on August 18, 2010, 10:48:28 am
If true, it would make sense, as Part 2 never appeared on the US Dreamcast and was relegated to the PS2 as a second disc. Also, Michael Jackson = $$$ for SEGA.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Sharky on August 18, 2010, 11:00:52 am
Would make more sence to use both parts surely.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: crackdude on August 18, 2010, 11:03:56 am
I'm worried MJ won't be in it. Sega doesn't hold rights to his image and that's something taken very seriously these days.

Also look at how Crazy Taxi is (different music, no store names)
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Sharky on August 18, 2010, 11:06:08 am
But he is in that little flyer they are claiming is from XBLA... So either they are talking out of their arse... (Most likely, sonic fans after all.) Or he IS in it.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Sega Uranus on August 18, 2010, 12:13:34 pm
If SEGA has the rights to use Michael Jackson's face and name I would expect them to release both Space Channel 5 games and every version of Moonwalker that exists all over the place. It would only make sense to do so.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: crackdude on August 18, 2010, 12:23:12 pm
Quote from: "Sharky"
But he is in that little flyer they are claiming is from XBLA... So either they are talking out of their arse... (Most likely, sonic fans after all.) Or he IS in it.
Maybe they can leave his likeliness there, and not state SPACE MICHAEL in the screen.

Still, Plants vs Zombies had a problem with this.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Sega Uranus on August 18, 2010, 12:27:59 pm
Quote from: "crackdude"
Still, Plants vs Zombies had a problem with this.

That was different. That was just a parody where the zombie was only hinted to be MJ. Popcap did not want to get in trouble once his estate contacted them, so they just made a quick fix on it.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Orta on August 18, 2010, 01:01:50 pm
I think MJ's work in this game is no different from the work of a programmer or an artist. He worked on the game, got paid for it and Sega holds the rights to that work. He was never actually known as "Michael Jackson" in the game, right? I don't see the prase "Space Michael" as a potential lawsuit. The face...maybe. I'm no lawyer.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Sega Uranus on August 18, 2010, 01:17:27 pm
His voice is in the games though.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on August 18, 2010, 01:22:57 pm
So?

Jackson was in Men in Black 2, but it's still re-released and shown on TV without editing his scene out, so I don't see the difference.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on August 18, 2010, 01:29:03 pm
I'm sure MJ signed some sort of legal form that allows SEGA to redistribute the game in whichever way they wish without having to pay him millions.

It's probably the same legal mumbo-jumbo that allows tv shows like The Simpsons to sell episodes on iTunes without paying royalties to their hundreds of guest stars. He was probably paid a one off fee for his performance (assuming he did it for money) and from then on out all the materials were property of SEGA.

Moonwalker, on the other hand, is probably a bit tricky as SEGA developed the game but it includes a number of MJ trademarks including music and characters.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Sega Uranus on August 18, 2010, 01:44:26 pm
Quote from: "Dr. SEGA Monkey"
So?

Jackson was in Men in Black 2, but it's still re-released and shown on TV without editing his scene out, so I don't see the difference.

You watched Men in Black 2 more than once?
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: crackdude on August 18, 2010, 04:12:15 pm
Quote from: "Dr. SEGA Monkey"
So?

Jackson was in Men in Black 2, but it's still re-released and shown on TV without editing his scene out, so I don't see the difference.
Even being the same game, a release on a new platform is considered as a whole new game. This doesn't happen with movies.

This is the idea I get from what I read online.. Anyone can confirm/deny this?
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: SOUP on August 19, 2010, 10:17:59 pm
I wouldn't imagine Michale Jackson being in the game causing much trouble.
It's not like all the other ports held up due to licensing issues.  It wasn't a "Michale Jackson" game, or a "Duck Tales" game, or a some other brand.  It's a SEGA franchise with Michal Jackson appearing in a guest role, that he requested to be in.

I really hope this does get ported to XBLA/PSN.
It's hands down one of, if not my favourite SEGA game of all time.  The best example of a sequel outdoing it's original in absolutely every way.  If more people get the chance to play SC5: Part 2, or the original, then I'll be one happy guy.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: ImSmartUrDum on August 20, 2010, 08:24:33 am
Whoever owns the rights to those recordings of Michael Jackson's voice owns the rights to them and that is that.

SEGA, most probably.
Title: Re: Space Channel 5 Part 2 XBLA?
Post by: Ulala5 on August 21, 2010, 04:57:51 pm
oh god, i've just noticed this thread, don't break a lady's heart with a fake! lol i hope this is true, i would love to buy and play both part 1 or 2 again, even if i have my doubts it will really be released because of MJ.
Just in case it's true, i wish you can switch lenguages. I've always played it in japanese and i dislike the english version