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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on August 24, 2010, 10:25:32 pm
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This needs to be on the front page. Immediately.
[youtube:3dngn9fo]ZxXycBv3Rlk[/youtube:3dngn9fo]
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Sonic Team is fully capable of this, but...
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There is no excuse on why Sonic 4 doesn't look like this.
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That is CGI... Not a game though.
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That is CGI... Not a game though.
Maybe, but the quality of those graphics are entirely achievable on HD consoles.
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Fans do what Sonic Team can't. Surprising? lol no.
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The guy/girl who designed this is pretty darn talented (And devoted too)
There is no excuse on why Sonic 4 doesn't look like this.
I have to agree, this is what I was expecting and wanted Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to look like. It would have been marvelous.
Fans do what Sonic Team can't. Surprising? lol no.
Oh I was looking at stuff from SAGE 2010, some pretty great stuff there.
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That looks great!
I'll still stick by my guns and say that a fully 2D HD Sonic would be best though!
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This looks amazing!
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Looks great! Though the colors are a bit muted for my tastes. I'd like the above in a bit more vibrant colors cel shaded. That or crisp Saturn-esque sprites.
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The sun rays were a nice touch. I wouldn't mind seeing more levels redone like this. I just wonder if he did the music, too.
Looking at his site, he did a Mario video, too, but it's not in 3D and has Dream Theater. Actually, the Apple commercial he made with Dream Theater is probably more interesting.
http://www.blobvandam.com/videos.html (http://www.blobvandam.com/videos.html)
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My one qualm are the 3D platforms and environment. If Sonic 4 were too look more like this, it would then be more akin to the 2.5D segments of Unleashed and Colors which is not the direction that I'd want to see 4 take. I prefer the background and environments not to move with the camera but rather be fixed in place.
However the idea of the sunlight coming from the background to the foreground is a great concept and I'd love to see that sort of stuff in 4.
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Looks great! Though the colors are a bit muted for my tastes. I'd like the above in a bit more vibrant colors cel shaded.
Fully endorsed;-)
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Looks great!
I wouldn't compare it directly to Sonic 4, since this is CG. But I loved the increased depth of the platforms and the sunrays and those details. Thought take off all the messy bloom and you get something very similar to Sonic 4.
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Some folks over at Sonic Stadium are confusing CG rendering with actual gameplay, it's getting rather silly. Glad to see folks here are smart enough to know why Toy Story 3 the video game doesn't look as good as Toy Story 3 the movie.
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Games will never look as good as pre-rendered graphics. But it's getting close..
Some days ago I found this site that made custom filters for PC games so that they'd look more life-like. Amazing results.
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Wait a minuite, Wait a MINUITE, WAIT A MINUITE!
Sonic 4 can not be compared to this, cause it is like comparing Tim Burton's joker to Christopher Nolan's Joker, both directors potrayed the same character in a different light.
First of all this Video is based on Sonic 3 and the Knuckles expansion pack where as Sonic 4, is only Sonic 4 in name it is actually more closer to a sequel of the orignal Sonic or Sonic 2 in the asthetic sense.
Sonic 3 was all about realism, it had evolved out of the checkered textures of Green Hill Zone and Emerald Hill Zone to realistic looking lavish naturesque terrain and that is why it is looking so excellent.
Sonic 4 is all about the return of the checkered backgrounds, if you want a Sonic game to look like this, expect it from Colors or Unleashed 2 not Sonic 4.
That is all I have to say, I am not saying the video isn't jaw dropping I am say the art direction in both games is very different and Sonic 4 is 2DHD (right?).
(http://http://whengamessuck.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/green_hill_zone_by_orioto.jpg)
All about different design choices really.
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This is completely possible on HD consoles, and even still as a budget release. Bionic Commando ReArmed (which came out in 2007 I think) did it pretty damn good, and that was seen as a 'low interest' series.
Looks great! Though the colors are a bit muted for my tastes.
This is exactly what the later half of Mushroom Hill Zone looks like.
Sonic 4 can not be compared to this, cause it is like comparing Tim Burton's joker to Christopher Nolan's Joker, both directors potrayed the same character in a different light.
That does not make any sense. It is portrayed differently, but you are still allowed to compare them as it is supposed to be the same character.
Sonic 3 was all about realism, it had evolved out of the checkered textures of Green Hill Zone and Emerald Hill Zone to realistic looking lavish naturesque terrain and that is why it is looking so excellent.
I do not agree.
The later releases set to have a more realistic approach sure, but basically everything you saw in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic & Knuckles could not be possible in real life, not to mention a lot of those patterns still remain, like in Mushroom Hill Zone! I realize it is a videogame at the end of the day, but that does not mean there is no way possible to ever reach any kind of realism.
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@Uranis
The game was a bit more colorful in the original though. All the colors look a bit dark and gritty in this fangame, which is also my only gripe together with the model.
I also wet myself when I saw this video at sonicretro. Man.. how I wish sega would take an example of that video.
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I agree that the fan animation is completely possible on HD consoles, however I don't think it's possible as a downloadable game. As a 20th anniversary disc based game however...
I meant muted in that that this:
(http://http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4803/picture2f.png)
seems washed out compared to this:
(http://http://www.dcshooters.co.uk/sonic/sonic16bit/sandk/images/mushroomhill21.png)
Could have been something in the transition to youtube or maybe his output settings were off, seems a bit foggy, thats all. Just a small animation criticism. :afroman:
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That's just a consequence of the bloom. Take that out and bump the contrast and the color become vibrant. But then you'd lose the glossy effects and increase the sharpness which might make it look considerably inferior imo.
I wouldn't mind a remake like this though.
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Wait a minuite, Wait a MINUITE, WAIT A MINUITE!
Sonic 4 can not be compared to this (...)
I think people meant how well the old school physics were captured in this video. Even if it's an animation, that's not an easy feat. We all know where Sonic 4 is heading in this department... I guess this clip took people by surprise.
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I think the old school physics were not transitioned to 3D so much as the visuals were probably copied frame by frame via a gameplay video of the original stage.
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I think the old school physics were not transitioned to 3D so much as the visuals were probably copied frame by frame via a gameplay video of the original stage.
This.
If they were to make a freaking physics engine they might as well make the whole game.
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This.
If they were to make a freaking physics engine they might as well make the whole game.
SonicWorld Engine exists for that reason. Of course Sonic fangames always get started but never get finished.
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It looks good, except that Sonic is too slow. He needs to be faster.
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It looks good, except that Sonic is too slow. He needs to be faster.
are you being funny or serious? Because that is Sonic's speed in Sonic 3
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Oh yeah, I see what you mean now on the colors. Probably is just the bloom though.
I agree that the fan animation is completely possible on HD consoles, however I don't think it's possible as a downloadable game.
Check out Shadow Complex and Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, both of these games have slightly better graphics than launch titles on both HD consoles, and I am sure SEGA could do better still.
I think the old school physics were not transitioned to 3D so much as the visuals were probably copied frame by frame via a gameplay video of the original stage.
Yeah, everything looks spot on, so I cannot imagine it being done from memory... Even someone like me who has played those games thousands of hours could not do that probably.
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are you being funny or serious? Because that is Sonic's speed in Sonic 3
Thank goodness he's not such a slug anymore, then! =D
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[youtube:24x1fjbz]Ww0ecdhL6n8[/youtube:24x1fjbz]
Why are the fans so awkwardly good at this stuff?
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are you being funny or serious? Because that is Sonic's speed in Sonic 3
Thank goodness he's not such a slug anymore, then! =D
You must be one of the funny guys around, hahaha you almost got me there :afroman:
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I'm really impressed now.
But Sonic's model is not good. Looks a bit awfull... and stretched.
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You must be one of the funny guys around, hahaha you almost got me there :afroman:
Yeah, I'm just teasing. :P
Though really, I'd rather have a game like Sonic Colors than relive the thrills of 1994.
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[youtube:nu3lypzk]Ww0ecdhL6n8[/youtube:nu3lypzk]
Why are the fans so awkwardly good at this stuff?
that was BEAUTIFUL
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You must be one of the funny guys around, hahaha you almost got me there :afroman:
Yeah, I'm just teasing. :P
Though really, I'd rather have a game like Sonic Colors than relive the thrills of 1994.
I agree, I myself am looking forward to sonic colors more than sonic 4. And this comes from someone who hates most of sonic's modern games, including sonic unleashed.. and loves the old stuff to death
I just wish sonic 4 got the same treatment
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I'd rather have a game like Sonic Colors than relive the thrills of 1994.
I agree on this.
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I agree, I myself am looking forward to sonic colors more than sonic 4. And this comes from someone who hates most of sonic's modern games, including sonic unleashed.. and loves the old stuff to death
I just wish sonic 4 got the same treatment
I <333 Sonic Unleashed. It's still one of the best games I own on the Xbox 360, and one of my favorite Sonic games ever. ^__^
(And yes, to those who are wondering, I got it on 360 'cause there was a special post-launch deal on Amazon.com where it was being sold for $28 when it was BRAND NEW! I couldn't pass up such a sweet deal.)