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Title: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Pao on September 14, 2010, 07:08:19 pm
http://imgur.com/0RlUn.jpg (http://imgur.com/0RlUn.jpg)

:S
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Post by: Sharky on September 14, 2010, 07:34:38 pm
FUCK.

Edit, where does it say it is for the PSP?
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Pao on September 14, 2010, 07:40:59 pm
You can see its name in the PSP list.

SEGA better have some good surprises at TGS.
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Post by: Pao on September 14, 2010, 07:49:57 pm
First Scan for Yakuza of the End:

(http://http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4418/57421320.jpg)
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4418/57421320.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4418/57421320.jpg)

WTH!?!?!!
Seriously? Zombies? What!
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Post by: Sieghardt on September 14, 2010, 08:12:39 pm
ahaha...come on, this has to be some kinda sick joke right? >_>
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Post by: Sharky on September 14, 2010, 08:16:32 pm
Interested in the new Yakuza, seems to be a spin off.

But Valkyria Chronicles 3 on PSP? Sega are worthless cunts sometimes.
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Post by: George on September 14, 2010, 08:26:24 pm
This could be the 'Western game' Nagoshi was teasing. SEGA's Dead Rising? You know how that was Capcom's first big hit this generation, especially on the 360 and in the west.

Yakuza is a big Japanese name, it will do its selling on name alone. Maybe this is aiming for western audiences? I assume this is why out of the blue SEGA West decided to bring Yakuza 3 and then Yakuza 4 was announced timely (compared to 3).
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Post by: Sharky on September 14, 2010, 08:34:26 pm
Im hearing interesting things about new Yakuza Of The End scans but I dont know where to find them... help?
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Post by: George on September 14, 2010, 08:36:30 pm
The scan is right above you and on the front page.

Zombies...makes sense how Ryuji Goda came back?
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Post by: Sieghardt on September 14, 2010, 08:38:25 pm
f.pic.to/12pvwg

Valkyria 3 scan

at least it doesnt look like the complete shit 2 was even though it's on psp
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Post by: Sharky on September 14, 2010, 08:42:01 pm
Quote from: "George"
The scan is right above you and on the front page.

Zombies...makes sense how Ryuji Goda came back?

There are apparently more.
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Post by: Pao on September 14, 2010, 08:48:05 pm
(http://http://www.gamingeverything.com/uploads/1879/original/yakuza_of_the_end_scan-6.jpg)
(http://http://www.gamingeverything.com/uploads/1878/original/yakuza_of_the_end_scan-5.jpg)
(http://http://www.gamingeverything.com/uploads/1877/original/yakuza_of_the_end_scan-4.jpg)
(http://http://www.gamingeverything.com/uploads/1881/original/yakuza_of_the_end_scan-3.jpg)
(http://http://www.gamingeverything.com/uploads/1880/original/yakuza_of_the_end_scan-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Sharky on September 14, 2010, 08:58:25 pm
... I'm very excited for this. I hope this game is as batshit insane as it looks.

Obviously a spin off... Such a bitter sweet day! Yakuza of the End and Sonic Colours look awesome but then the VC3 bombshell... I don't know how to feel!
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Post by: Sieghardt on September 14, 2010, 09:10:06 pm
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/Sieghardt/10x6g4-1-ba8e.jpg)
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/Sieghardt/10x6g4-2-ba8e.jpg)
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Post by: fluffymoochicken on September 14, 2010, 09:41:42 pm
RGG:OTE is nuts, nuts, NUTS!!!

...but the guys of VC3 are rather nice. ^___^
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Post by: George on September 14, 2010, 10:00:34 pm
Added more VC3 scans to the original post, including the 2 in this thread.
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Post by: Suzuki Yu on September 14, 2010, 10:02:06 pm
totally insane! TOTALLY INSANE!
i was like Wha... !

i can't believe that i am so excited for the game now!
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Post by: Suzuki Yu on September 14, 2010, 10:05:02 pm
VC3 scans
http://www.gamingeverything.com/2010/9/ ... an-3.jpg#s (http://www.gamingeverything.com/2010/9/first_valkyria_chronicles_3_scans/1883/valkyria_chronicles_3_scan-3.jpg#s)
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Post by: George on September 14, 2010, 10:09:52 pm
Man, I just uploaded the scans. Don't take it away from me after I announced it. :(
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Post by: Sieghardt on September 14, 2010, 10:13:53 pm
all from my man Varion:

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Number 01 - Imuka. One of the heroines (the one on the right). Darcsen. Something about her village being destroyed by the Valkyria.
VA: Asano Masumi

Number 07 - Kurt Irving. Used to be a genius military officer, but through certain circumstances became part of the Nameless. The guy in the middle.
VA: Nakamura Yuuuichi

Numvber 13 - Riera Malseris. Valkyria, but she isn't aware of it, and after being the only survivor (of numerous battles I guess), she became known as a Reaper and ended up in the Nameless. The obvious girl on the left.

From the interview
Obviously I understand there are those who want the game to be for the PS3. However, over two years after the release, rather than simply a new game where the game systems are marginally improved, we feel like we need more different ideas. But if go with that, we won't be able to say this is the same series. We've worried thinking about a plan for this for a long time, but we're yet to think of a revolutionary enough idea that feels like 'it'."

"So if you thought of a new idea, you'd make it for the PS3?"
"Yes. We want to make the game on the most fitting hardware for the idea."

gameplay details
-VC2's shitty mission grinding system has been scrapped, you progress through story missions like VC1
-the minimaps stay but they will be bigger
-there will be setpieces like the Batomys and other exciting events
-the number of classes has been reduced and they've been made more unique

basically other than being on psp it seems like they've listened to the complaints of the fans, hooray
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Post by: Suzuki Yu on September 14, 2010, 10:56:46 pm
you know i am angry and all but i kinda respect what the producer said in this interview
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Post by: SOUP on September 14, 2010, 11:43:13 pm
The only real complaint I have about Valkyria Chronicles II is that the way you gain what you need to change your character job classes is a bit too random. Hopefully they'll make that a bit easier.

Reducing the amount of character classes does make sense, as a lot of the final ones in VCII are pretty much the same class with altered stats (sniper that fires 3 shots at once vs. sniper that can deal serious damage to armoured vehicles). The game has about 35 classes, but most of those are sub-classes of the 10 that are actually different. As long as they keep the Fencer/Mauler class, I'll be happy.  Boost a Fencer's stats with a Melodist (Buffer class), and they can down even the toughest boss in about 3 hits.
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Post by: Aki-at on September 15, 2010, 03:25:39 am
Shame Valkyria Chronicles is not returning the to Playstation 3, though not too surprising when the original Valkyria Chronicles has not shifted much over 400,000 (And keep in mind it only did 30,000 on it's debut month in America) as I said in the comment section, game obviously did enough to warrent a sequel, but not enough to warrent a HD experience, which is a shame, but what can you do?
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Post by: Aki-at on September 15, 2010, 03:39:57 am
Also, for those complaining about realism of Yakuza and what not, spoilers from Yakuza 2 below...

[spoiler:26wc2r3p]A GIANT GOLDEN OSAKA CASTLE CAME OUT OF THE FLOOR FULL OF SAMURAIS AND TIGER PUNCHING, insane action is all part of the series[/spoiler:26wc2r3p]
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Post by: MadeManG74 on September 15, 2010, 03:48:14 am
Quote from: "Aki-at"
Shame Valkyria Chronicles is not returning the to Playstation 3, though not too surprising when the original Valkyria Chronicles has not shifted much over 400,000

Yeah, it would have been nice, but Valk didn't really set the world on fire. I think it had potential to be a big series, but I can understand Sega keeping the costs down.

As for Yakuza, I think this is really cool! At first I was a bit 'huh!?' but now I think more about it, this is a chance to just make some crazy batshit game that's completely unrelate to the rest of the series but still featuring all our favourite characters! This sort of thing is really rare in any medium, and it's nice to see something so wild from a series like Yakuza.

Hopefully it's packed to the gills with stuff that's too far out for even the regular Yakuza series, meaning it needs to out-do Tiger Punching.
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Post by: Aki-at on September 15, 2010, 05:36:34 am
Quote from: "MadeManG74"
Yeah, it would have been nice, but Valk didn't really set the world on fire. I think it had potential to be a big series, but I can understand Sega keeping the costs down.

Yeah do not get me wrong, I would love to see Valkyria Chronicles appear back on the Playstation 3, but realistically speaking, it would not probably sell too well even with marketing, the SRPG subgenre sells overall the least compared to the other subgenre's in RPG, even Nintendo's Fire Emblem series has a hard time selling and that is probably the biggest, in terms of consistency anyway, SRPG series out there.

It be a great thing to see it back on home consoles, but it really is not financially viable to be honest. Cannot always take risks, the group managed to lose $500 million in the space of two years in 2008 and 2009 after all.
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Post by: CrazyT on September 15, 2010, 07:13:23 am
I wonder what Nagoshi says in that interview (it's an interview right??)
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Post by: Sega Uranus on September 15, 2010, 08:12:41 am
I pretty much had the same reaction as Mang on Yakuzambies (yes we will all have to call it that now). A lot of people I am talking to about this just straight out hate the concept entirely, but as long as it is a spinoff I think it sounds like it could be cool. I think this kind of setting has a lot of potential to be maybe the most fun in the series, and that says a lot.

I think Valkyria Chronicles is better suited to handhelds honestly. This does not really effect me at all.
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Post by: CrazyT on September 15, 2010, 08:25:27 am
I think the valkyria games indeed suit better for the handheld, at the moment. I agree with Shinji Motoyama. If there were a sequal on ps3, expectations would be huge and could only destroy the franchise with bad ratings and such.

Expanding the gameplay on handhelds is a smart choice and wil only have a positive outcome if there comes a VC on the ps3.

Also I don't own a ps3 so it's all good for me!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by: George on September 15, 2010, 08:48:36 am
Sorry, I love VC1 on PS3 and they work very well on the PS3. I would not mind a side game being done, along with a PS3 game. But damn, everything about (quality wise) VC1>VC2.
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Post by: Aki-at on September 15, 2010, 09:04:19 am
I agree that the series would have high production values (And therefore most likely, quality) on consoles, but as I pointed out, the original sold 140,000 on the PS3 in Japan and around 130,000 in America, add a further 80,000 in from the budget release and you'd be looking at 350,000 at the very least. But a good 140,000 of that is through the price cut sales. Europe sales I have no access to but I doubt it did that well there.

I mean if Alpha Protocol with sales of over 700,000 is still considered a failure by SEGA, you know that they need big sales to justify big games, there is a reason Yakuza is a yearly release with a lot of re-used assests.
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Post by: Team Andromeda on September 15, 2010, 12:03:47 pm
Just when I was start of hoping SEGA would have a decent Tokyo game show SEGA do this .

Making Val III for the PSP is just rubbish news and not going to get the masses excited at all. Sort of puzzling now the PS3 and the 360 are well establish consoles and boating a great sell rate, unlike when Val launched in 2008.
Why not make a Val III for the 360 and PS3 with an improved Canvas engine, and then do a port to the PSP, DS 3D and Wii (so everyone is happy) and a real way to help grow the series and get it established to the masses ?

Then I read about Yakuza and the Zombie mode  . Is the yakuza that people loved for re-creating a realistic Japan and a setting of believable characters and storylines ? Sure people will say its a Spin off and now a Direct sequel , well so was Shadow The Hedgehog a spin off, didn't stop people knocking it , saying you're killing the Sonic brand , same for the Shining spin off's ECT.

And its not like shooting hundreds Zombies are new, Capcom been there and done it with Dead Rising, we've had Zombies Left 4 dead, and even a Zombie mode In Call of Duty .
 I've been worried for a while about the series being run into the ground and running out of new ideas, for a while
This seems to confirm the news

This just leaves the Sonic Team to save SEGA at this years show. Lets hope at least they'll be making a next Gen sequel to PSO.
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Post by: Aki-at on September 15, 2010, 12:50:33 pm
Valkyria Chronicles is a Strategy RPG, the most niche of an already niche genre this generation, the masses would never get excited for it I'm afraid.

Quote from: "Team Andromeda"
Then I read about Yakuza and the Zombie mode . Is the yakuza that people loved for re-creating a realistic Japan and a setting of believable characters and storylines ? Sure people will say its a Spin off and now a Direct sequel , well so was Shadow The Hedgehog a spin off, didn't stop people knocking it , saying you're killing the Sonic brand , same for the Shining spin off's ECT.

If people honestly thought Yakuza was realistic, something is extremely wrong... The spoiler below just shows how unrealistic the series is;

[spoiler:1u3lew4i]A vast network watching everyone in Tokyo, found in an underground city housing gambling shops and a coliseum, all headed by one man and maintained by a bunch of hobos[/spoiler:1u3lew4i]

And that's not just one of the completely unrealistic plotlines, the series has it in every release. It has great characters though and I do not think that will change, but the storylines were never realistic in the slightest, they were good yes, but not realistic.

Shadow the Hedgehog was a violent spinoff to a family series that is actually connected to the main storyline and is a conclusion to the events in Sonic Heroes. I think it's fair to say this is not a conclusion to any Yakuza storyline. Most people were fine with the Shining games when they happen to be good, like Shining Soul II, Shining Force Cross etc, not when you have the quality of a licensed product (Which some unfortunately are)
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Post by: Sieghardt on September 15, 2010, 01:34:49 pm
^You might want to google japanese CCTV systems, what you're pointing out as being as farfetched as zombies is a reality. there are millions of these cameras and it's pretty easy to hack into them. They're very common in japan and england.
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Post by: Aki-at on September 15, 2010, 01:41:28 pm
Quote from: "Sieghardt"
^You might want to google japanese CCTV systems, what you're pointing out as being as farfetched as zombies is a reality. there are millions of these cameras and it's pretty easy to hack into them. They're very common in japan and england.

Yes, they are common in England, however I seriously doubt a bunch of hobos maintaining that network here. The British government is more likely to control than it being maintained by a group of homeless people.

Also Yakuza 2 also have a worse example or being not realistic.

[spoiler:f03bsfi0]A Giant Golden Osaka castle waising from it's gwave above the original castle that houses samurais and tiger punching! A whole chapter dedicated to it[/spoiler:f03bsfi0]
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Post by: Sega Uranus on September 15, 2010, 02:19:46 pm
How are zombies in a mafia story unoriginal?

I do not even understand what you want in the series TA, at least give it a chance to see a video first.
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Post by: Team Andromeda on September 15, 2010, 02:21:35 pm
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Valkyria Chronicles is a Strategy RPG, the most niche of an already niche genre this generation, the masses would never get excited for it I'm afraid.

I meant what's left of the SEGA masses . This is poor news, not helped by the fact that the PSP really isn't a goer in the West anymore. Now a Multi Platform  Next Gen Val III would have got more here talking and excited imo , and give the series a far better chance to make a breakthrough

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If people honestly thought Yakuza was realistic, something is extremely wrong... The spoiler below just shows how unrealistic the series is;

No game is 100 % realistic. I thought many liked Yakuza for giving a great impression of the under world in Japan, and for lovingly creating/ a City and a cast , that's a bit believable .

I wonder why the team wasted so much time and effort in researching the Yakuza underworld, Hostess Clubs as well as photographic and other data referenced

As the great put it Kikuchi-san put it

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There aren't that many dangerous places anymore lately. There was a magazine that ran an interview with an actual owner of one of the clubs who had actually played Yakuza, and he complimented it, saying it was very realistic and that there were girls who actually talk like this

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First we took the scenario we had written on our end and had him look at it. He edited it and pointed out instances where things weren't realistic or when a character's emotions didn't fit in. Of course his background in writing underground crime novels was very helpful. But he helped us with even more basic things, like the setting or the emotional state of the characters. We then repeated the process in going back and forth in order to change those problem areas.


Who knows maybe the Team should have just watched Dawn Of The Dead instead
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Post by: Team Andromeda on September 15, 2010, 02:29:17 pm
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
How are zombies in a mafia story unoriginal?

I do not even understand what you want in the series TA, at least give it a chance to see a video first.

That's like saying Zombies in COD is original, maybe it is but I don't play COD games for Zombie modes

Want I want from the series is a complete overhaul on Tech , for the game to push the PS3 as much as Yakuza II did on the PS2. Interactive environments, and far, far better animations, and for a completely totally brand new City to be modelled and created .

Kind of like the huge difference in GTA IV to San Andreas. Same game, just vastly improved tech, and interaction. Making use of the next gen and Online.

To me Yakuza is going the way of Tomb Raider.
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Post by: Sharky on September 15, 2010, 02:43:03 pm
I agree with TA on Valkyria Chronicles, it should have been on the PS3. I couldn't disagree more about Yakuza however.

The Yakuza series did a good job of setting up interesting stories and great characters. This can still be done in a Yakuza with Zombies. They still could do it with Kenzan.

Lets face it the series has never been THAT realistic, sure it has a realistic plot but just below the surface is completely wacky senerios, humour and locations.

I have no problem with a Zombie spin off, again if they can make 1 Yakuza a year and it STILL get a 9/9/9/9 score. (Yakuza PSP) Then what ever! Great.
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Post by: Barry the Nomad on September 15, 2010, 02:57:15 pm
All the writers for SEGAbits secretly dress up as babies on the weekends and have Japanese women care for them. FACT.

I really hope for manbaby zombies!
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Post by: Sega Uranus on September 15, 2010, 03:16:07 pm
Quote from: "Team Andromeda"
To me Yakuza is going the way of Tomb Raider.

Even Eidos themselves said Tomb Raider was at it's prime with Tomb Raider 2. The second game.

This is, what? The seventh game or something? And it keeps getting more popular...
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Post by: MadeManG74 on September 15, 2010, 03:50:23 pm
We could argue about Yakuza's realism all day, but this game looks to outdo all the wacky moments of the previous game. This isn't meant to be Yakuza 5, this is Yakuza: The End. It's a spin-off where they are just going to go nuts doing crazy things that don't have to make sense (I think).

It's like a 'What if' or something, as far as I'm concerned this is something completely unreleated to the rest of the series and a chance to do something completely different and fun.
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Post by: Pao on September 15, 2010, 03:52:59 pm
Is it even confirmed the game is a spin-off?
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Post by: Autosaver on September 15, 2010, 04:01:01 pm
2 PSP VC games in a row. Why would it be a spin-off?
Don't these games continue the story?
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Post by: Sharky on September 15, 2010, 04:38:19 pm
Quote from: "Autosaver"
2 PSP VC games in a row. Why would it be a spin-off?
Don't these games continue the story?


Hi, hes talking about Yakuza not Valkyria Chonricles 2.

@Pao, It doesn't have a number in the title it is not Yakuza 5. So it is basically a spin off.
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Post by: Autosaver on September 15, 2010, 04:59:24 pm
Fff, thought you were guys were talking about VC3.
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Post by: CrazyT on September 15, 2010, 09:05:34 pm
Face it, this game is about the western cash.

I dont mind if the game is good and it sells well,  imaine nagoshi going nuts when it does and turn yakuza into a zombie franchise lol. that would be weird.

It could also result into the contrary, frustrate fans by alienating the franchise ie
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Post by: SOUP on September 15, 2010, 10:20:09 pm
Quote from: "Team Andromeda"
Just when I was start of hoping SEGA would have a decent Tokyo game show SEGA do this .

Making Val III for the PSP is just rubbish news and not going to get the masses excited at all. Sort of puzzling now the PS3 and the 360 are well establish consoles and boating a great sell rate, unlike when Val launched in 2008.
Why not make a Val III for the 360 and PS3 with an improved Canvas engine, and then do a port to the PSP, DS 3D and Wii (so everyone is happy) and a real way to help grow the series and get it established to the masses ?

Take a look at the weekly/lifetime console sales in Japan. The PSP trounces any console out there pretty consistently.  When it comes to safe bets in the Japanese market (especially for a JRPG) the PSP is where it's at. Porting a strategy RPG to multiple systems isn't the cheapest thing to do, and quite the financial gamble for a series that hasn't blown the roof off as far as sales go.  Just be happy that the series is continuing period.  Especially when they're making continuous improvements to the gameplay.
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Post by: Team Andromeda on September 16, 2010, 01:27:44 am
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Even Eidos themselves said Tomb Raider was at it's prime with Tomb Raider 2. The second game.

This is, what? The seventh game or something? And it keeps getting more popular...


Kind of like Yakuza , where the 2nd game is still the most popular. Everybody loved the TB games, but by the time of the 4th and the 5th , people began  to tire of the same gameplay , the same old engine , people began to leave CORE having enough of yearly sequels(same for Street Fighter II and its endless spin off's )

In the end the series needed a complete reboot and a completely new developer . People began to tire of Resident Evil , and the series needed a completely reboot, a brand new engine and 4 years worth of development tech for RE 4

Medal of Honour games were very popular, but inthe end people got bored of the same old gameplay and the same War.  

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again if they can make 1 Yakuza a year and it STILL get a 9/9/9/9 score. (Yakuza PSP)

Please this is Famitsu, where you can buy reviews , didn't the same Mag score Shadow the Hedgehog very highly?,even the pants fest that was MOH Rising sun I've no problems with a PSP side story, or spin off, that a great way to grow the series and get decent sales

Every problem with SOJ number one game and number one spend , being just a yearly update , lacking new idea's , new tech, and any sort of direction. Mark my words , Yearly updates are a sure way to kill any creativity, break the Team's will, stop any development in Tech, and make sure people leave your Team.  Funny we used to have a go at SEGA for milking Sonic, Capcom for SF II , yet its somehow fine for Yakuza ?.

I just don't get it .

 I just hope we get a full on sequel to PS now, otherwise is looking to be another safe and solid show from SEGA, but not the comeback show I so want SEGA to display
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Post by: MadeManG74 on September 16, 2010, 03:45:35 am
I JUST SAW THE TRAILER FOR YAKUZA: THE END.
HOLY SHIT.
just...

HOLY SHIT.
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Post by: CrazyT on September 16, 2010, 04:30:15 am
aahahahha, the trailer was awesome.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Team Andromeda on September 16, 2010, 04:39:10 am
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The PSP trounces any console out there pretty consistently. When it comes to safe bets in the Japanese market (especially for a JRPG) the PSP is where it's at.

How well did Val II sell compared to the multi format FF 13 ? (ok a bit of a piss take , but never mind) . From what I remember the PSP sales of Val II weren't really that spectacular in the 1st place were there . No problems with making a PSP version.
Just can't understand why there's not a at least a PS3 version in development too, more so thanks to SLIM its been selling very well in Japan.

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I dont mind if the game is good and it sells well, imaine nagoshi going nuts when it does and turn yakuza into a zombie franchise lol. that would be weird.

Yet people go nuts when SONIC kisses a Human girl. Now I may have missed something, but SONIC was never a realistic series at all, can't think of any Hedgehogs on this or any other  Planet that can run at the speed of sound , but people  got nuts and complain how dare SONIC Team put in real Humans into the Sonic world, much less have any Love interest with Sonic 06 (not least on this board) , yet its fine for Zombies to go into Yakuza ???.

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It doesn't have a number in the title it is not Yakuza 5. So it is basically a spin off.

So Saga is a spin off , So is Orta ?  . Code Veronica a spin off, nothing do with a continuation of the story line of the previous characters
I don't ever remember NiGHTS JITD having a II in the tiles, yet fans monad at how dare Sonic Team change and mess around with the game play and make the characters talk, people should remember its a spin off (no number II inthe title )

 I guess its just as well , Nagoshi-san will never let the Panzer Team make another Pazner Dragoon, he'll most probably turn into a Call of Duty WW II FPS.  

Really if the Team wanted to make a Zombie action game , they should have a stand alone Zombie game, and take on the likes of Capcom and Dead Rising head to head.  You now make a action game that can work in both markets
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: CrazyT on September 16, 2010, 07:31:01 am
I rdont know if this has been placed but theres a vc3 trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-1 ... mments_top (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-valkyria-chronicles/704585#comments_top)
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: SOUP on September 16, 2010, 10:52:07 am
Quote from: "Team Andromeda"
How well did Val II sell compared to the multi format FF 13 ? (ok a bit of a piss take , but never mind) . From what I remember the PSP sales of Val II weren't really that spectacular in the 1st place were there . No problems with making a PSP version.
Just can't understand why there's not a at least a PS3 version in development too, more so thanks to SLIM its been selling very well in Japan.

Again, I'd imagine it's mostly to do with how much money they'd have to invest in the project up front.  I'd love to see another Valkyria Chronicles on PS3, but I get their decision.  I'm also not all that broken up about it, because it's translated really well to the PSP in the sequel.  Being able to play through a mission or two on my lunch break at work is the best :).
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Centrale on September 16, 2010, 12:46:57 pm
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Yet people go nuts when SONIC kisses a Human girl. Now I may have missed something, but SONIC was never a realistic series at all, can't think of any Hedgehogs on this or any other  Planet that can run at the speed of sound , but people  got nuts and complain how dare SONIC Team put in real Humans into the Sonic world, much less have any Love interest with Sonic 06 (not least on this board) , yet its fine for Zombies to go into Yakuza ???.

I don't think you can compare the hysterics of the Sonic fanbase to any other game's fanbase.  Nagoshi said early on he was hoping to do spinoffs in unusual settings for the Yakuza series.  

Rather than insist on the Yakuza fans adopting the same type of outraged-at-the-drop-of-a-pin attitude of Sonic errr... "fans?"... maybe people into Sonic should just... loosen up?
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Sega Uranus on September 16, 2010, 06:29:21 pm
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Kind of like Yakuza , where the 2nd game is still the most popular.

Except compared to the other releases outside of Kenzan, that had the weakest sales overall. I know some people do not like 3 as much as 2, but the overall words I have heard on 4 have been outstandingly positive.

It is not the same as the Tomb Raider series. If anything compare it to the Ratchet and Clank series. Actually no, Insomniac sucks now because they never tried to improve on anything or try a game without GUNZ so do not compare it to any series and just wait to see more about this game dammit!
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Team Andromeda on September 17, 2010, 01:19:17 am
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It is not the same as the Tomb Raider series. If anything compare it to the Ratchet and Clank series. Actually no, Insomniac sucks now because they never tried to improve on anything or try a game without GUNZ so do not compare it to any series and just wait to see more about this game dammit

I'll compare it to TR , where the team had a yearly development time frame and where the series peaked with the 2nd game (for me) and where in the end the yearly updates was too much for the team and the gamers.
I take the point about  R&C , though at least you can say that game is using great tech, But thanks to little innovation are anything new, I don't think the series is selling as well as it done it the past . I rather play Drakes than R&C myself .

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maybe people into Sonic should just... loosen up?

I don't think it is the Sonic fans , Its the people that love to knock SONIC. God help us, lets not put Humans into the Sonic, becasue that's so unrealistic and looks so silly , but lets put Zombies into Yakuza (A game people used to praise for being so unlike most and more of an serious, real-world game).

What did people used to say I don't want SEGA to turn into Capcom, sell out to the West . I got news for people Zombies had been done , they seem to be the in thing these days , Call Of Duty has them, hell they're even in Crackdown II, and there's a certain game called Dead Rising 1

 All we need now is SEGA to make a FPS war game, maybe starting the Yakuza boys, that should be fun, Just no Humans in Sonic please, its no in keeping with the games style  :roll:
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Suzuki Yu on September 17, 2010, 02:31:24 am
VCIII first gameplay video
http://www.4gamer.net/games/119/G011916/20100916099/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/119/G011916/20100916099/)

wow! looks really incredible! look at the Details!
also big maps are BACK!! yes!
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Team Andromeda on September 17, 2010, 03:03:11 am
Quote from: "Suzuki Yu"
VCIII first gameplay video
http://www.4gamer.net/games/119/G011916/20100916099/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/119/G011916/20100916099/)

wow! looks really incredible! look at the Details!
also big maps are BACK!! yes!

It does look amazing, But I so wish it was onthe PS3 as well. I'm not saying that to knock SEGA for the sake of it, I do take the point of the poor sales of the PS3 version and so on (I have made them myself)

But that was in 2008 , when the PS3 cost well over £300, and when the system was even having a hard time selling in Japan . Its different now, and I'm sure a Multi Platform Val III, using an improved Canvas engine  would have got this and many other boards talking and look forward to game with massive excitement, and a chance to really establish the series to more and more people (more so in the West).

I just can't really get  excited about PSP any more, and I've always rather play RPG's on the Big TV. I wouldn't say to much, but VAl looked so bloody wonderful on the PS3 (still to this day ) I just so wish the Canvas engine was used more, if not for this, say a new RPG  :oops: or a Sequel to Skies or somthing
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Suzuki Yu on September 17, 2010, 03:19:56 am
^^
of course i would prefer a console ver with improvement in everything including the CANVAS engine .
but at least they are really trying hard with this game .
even cinematic scenes and character design seems topnotch  .
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Team Andromeda on September 17, 2010, 06:39:14 am
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but at least they are really trying hard with this game .
even cinematic scenes and character design seems topnotch

But I just can't get excited anymore about PSP games. You know people may well be happy if the likes of Border Break was ported to the PSP, I would so much want it on the the PS3 or 360, I just would't be interested in the PSP game

The huge trouble is when you play Val on the PS3, playing  part II on the PSP is such a come down (despite the best efforts of the team) I can't help but feel that way, after Val looked so gorgeous and stunningly beautiful, And I really don't like playing RPG's onthe handled at all , due the play time and small screen
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Sharky on September 17, 2010, 08:15:49 am
Now I agree that I would much much much rather this game for a HD console on a big screen with beautiful graphics...

But I can't fault this game for anything else it looks like it could be the best VC yet.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: CrazyT on September 17, 2010, 08:25:23 am
IGN preview: http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/112/1121575p1.html (http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/112/1121575p1.html)
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Happy Cat on September 17, 2010, 09:11:15 am
saw this

(http://http://tgs.playstation.jp/images/title/ss/tgs2010-valkyria3.jpg)

defiantly looking better then VC2
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: SOUP on September 17, 2010, 11:02:21 am
It sure is looking nice.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Happy Cat on September 17, 2010, 05:32:45 pm
TGS Extended Trailer and off-screen gameplay footage

http://www.segabits.com/?p=4412 (http://www.segabits.com/?p=4412)

I'm very hyped for this game now.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: CrazyT on September 18, 2010, 12:31:22 pm
Here a much clearer off-screen gameplay video from GT

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-1 ... les/704841 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-valkyria-chronicles/704841)

Looks nice, too bad the player blows.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Happy Cat on September 18, 2010, 01:15:21 pm
Sigh.. that guy sucks horribly.

Would be nice to get some clear gameplay of someone who knows what they are doing.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: SOUP on September 18, 2010, 02:47:15 pm
Who the hell uses a mortar on a tank?
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Suzuki Yu on September 21, 2010, 10:50:29 am
2 new gameplay videos for VCIII

[youtube:3o7uvw4a]PElVi-6ZfMc[/youtube:3o7uvw4a]

[youtube:3o7uvw4a]0ma2pIhN044[/youtube:3o7uvw4a]


man i want to play this game now : (
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: CrazyT on September 21, 2010, 10:55:43 am
I can allready see this game top valkyria chronicles 2. I've never played the original, but who knows, this might even top that one.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: Aki-at on September 21, 2010, 10:59:21 am
Outside of possibly the graphics filter, looks like this one has every bit of potential to top the original.
Title: Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 is actually for the PSP! + RGG: OTE
Post by: SOUP on September 21, 2010, 11:02:18 am
As long as they keep the fencers from the Valkyria II, I'll be happy.