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Title: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Emmett The Crab on January 21, 2011, 01:49:51 pm
Virtua Fighter 2 (Genesis) coming to iOS

http://www.maclife.com/article/news/vir ... _app_store (http://www.maclife.com/article/news/virtua_fighter_2_genesis_version_comes_app_store)
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: ImSmartUrDum on January 22, 2011, 01:50:49 am
Lazy shit.
A port of the PC version of Virtua Fighter II to mobile phones has already happened in Japan...   years ago...
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 22, 2011, 05:43:07 am
Why do they keep porting this stupid game, holy shit Sega what is wrong with you?

I swear the guy in charge of Sega's digital/retro division is doing this just to laugh at the reactions on forums.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 22, 2011, 07:23:49 am
I used to report on these on my blog, but I've stopped since they come so frequently and are so half-assed. The one game I am interested in seeing on the iOS is Sonic 3 & Knuckles, mainly because Sonic 1,2 and 4 are already out. Gotta fill that hole, SEGA!
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Sega Uranus on January 22, 2011, 02:06:26 pm
Crap like this only hurts the reputation of the franchise, the Genesis console, SEGA and to a lesser extent the iOS platform all together. This REALLY pisses me off when there are dozens of platforms out now that would be able to run the fantastic arcade version of Virtua Fighter 2 perfectly fine and it has never been ported ever before.

Enjoy your fucking two dollars for each rare purchase, SEGA.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 22, 2011, 04:30:41 pm
Meanwhile at Sega's digital department:

(http://http://beffnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Rex-business-people-laughing-in-office.jpg)
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Emmett The Crab on January 23, 2011, 01:45:56 am
I've never played the 2D Virtua fighter.  I take it it's not good.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Sega Uranus on January 23, 2011, 03:29:14 pm
It is really not that bad, it is just annoying that they have brought literally the worst version of one of my personal favorite games ever to every platform possible now (it is even on SEGA.com for free too), and it entirely gives people the wrong idea entirely. Plus the sound and graphics are kind of shit, so that does not help either.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: cube_b3 on January 23, 2011, 04:03:33 pm
I played it when it came out, and it really was bad.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: ImSmartUrDum on January 25, 2011, 02:52:59 am
The worst thing about the game is not that it's 2D, but that the game is lazy and missing a ton of shit that there is no reason behind -
Shun and Lion are missing, the only stages in the game are Kage's, Akira's, Jeffrey's, Sarah's and Dural's.  The only music in the game is the music from those respective stages.   The stages are recycled between characters with pallet swapping to make them look a little different.

The game itself is playable, but it's so obviously a cheap cash-in when it's missing so much - there's no technical reason you couldn't include all of the fighters and stages (for example check Super Street Fighter II on MegaDrive where every character and stage from the arcade version is in the game).
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Aki-at on January 25, 2011, 11:08:32 am
SEGA of America still has a loooooong way before they can trump SEGA of Japan's digital content (Effectively mobile phone games over there)

Why SEGA of America have not brought over the Streets of Rage or Shinobi remakes (And some SRPG styled Shining Force) SEGA of Japan made is beyond me, would think they could charge more than $2 and make an able profit.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Sega Uranus on January 25, 2011, 04:11:52 pm
Not all of the blame should go to SEGA of America for this, SEGA of Japan released this exact same version on mobile devices and download platforms just this week.

I am not sure what is wrong with SEGA sometimes.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 25, 2011, 06:43:33 pm
I'll bet an iPad and the most recent iPhone and iPod Touch could easily run Virtua Fighter 1. Maybe even 2, no problem. That, or put a little money into a mobile Virtua Fighter. Capcom's fighting efforts on the iOS have been fantastic.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: ImSmartUrDum on January 26, 2011, 12:45:01 pm
Shit, the latest iPad and iPod touch could run fuckin Virtua Fighter 3.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 26, 2011, 02:10:33 pm
SEGA really needs to learn how to milk their fighting game franchises. I know Capcom fans complain about how often Street Fighter games are rererereleased, but at least they get 'em. SEGA sits atop a mountain of great games and very rarely gives them a rerelease. When they do, it's usually a cheap port.

My dream rereleases would be Virtua Fighter Trilogy for the iOS, NiGHTS into Dreams on PSN/XBLA and some of those really rare Dreamcast games for XBLA/PSN as well. Like Cosmic Smash and Propeller Arena. Fighting Vipers 1&2, VF Kids and Megamix would also be great. Maybe an AM2 fighting compilation disc.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Sega Uranus on January 26, 2011, 07:08:44 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
My dream rereleases would be Virtua Fighter Trilogy for the iOS,

I hate you.

So much.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 26, 2011, 07:28:24 pm
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
My dream rereleases would be Virtua Fighter Trilogy for the iOS,

I hate you.

So much.

Exclusive to the platform, oh and Virtua Fighter 6 becomes an iPad-only game.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 27, 2011, 03:19:23 am
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
I know Capcom fans complain about how often Street Fighter games are rererereleased, but at least they get 'em.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the opposite. SF2HDR was very popular, MVC2 sold over a million copies on XBLA/PSN, and there was huge demand from the hardcore scene and casuals for SFIII Third Strike to make it's way to XBLA/PSN (Coming this year!). Not to mention there is still petitions and hope for Darkstalkers.

If anything, fans want MORE capcom fighters re-releases.

Also SNK Fans, but for fuck's sake stop screwing up the netcode so badly.

Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
Exclusive to the platform, oh and Virtua Fighter 6 becomes an iPad-only game.  :twisted:

I know this is just a joke, but I still would punch you right in the mouth if I knew where you lived for that.
SPeaking of punching you in the mouth, it's been so long since we played VF5, let's do that again sometime.

Also the current rumour is that VF5 Final Showdown for PS360 is already in development.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Aki-at on January 27, 2011, 07:57:53 am
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
Not all of the blame should go to SEGA of America for this, SEGA of Japan released this exact same version on mobile devices and download platforms just this week.

Even though we discussed this yesterday in IM I believe it should be put here anyway. I am not sure what you saw but it's still strange if you did, for SEGA of Japan it'll be the first time the game was ever released, not even the original on the Mega Drive was released there.

Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
SEGA really needs to learn how to milk their fighting game franchises. I know Capcom fans complain about how often Street Fighter games are rererereleased, but at least they get 'em. SEGA sits atop a mountain of great games and very rarely gives them a rerelease. When they do, it's usually a cheap port.

Street Fighter sells millions of copies, Virtua Fighter 5 underperformed severely, the PS3 version of Bayonetta alone beats the combined sales of Virtua Fighter 5 on PS3 and Xbox360 (The latter had really lol level sales)
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: cube_b3 on January 27, 2011, 12:45:16 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
My dream rereleases would be Virtua Fighter Trilogy for the iOS, NiGHTS into Dreams on PSN/XBLA and some of those really rare Dreamcast games for XBLA/PSN as well. Like Cosmic Smash and Propeller Arena. Fighting Vipers 1&2, VF Kids and Megamix would also be great. Maybe an AM2 fighting compilation disc.

What's so special of Cosmic Smash, aside from the fact that it is one of the rare GD's that come in a DVD case?

I downloaded the torrent played it like 2 times, finished the game in my 2nd trial, didn't like it.

Edit: I will buy it if I get it for cheap though.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 27, 2011, 03:22:14 pm
From what I've seen and read, it's a lot of fun. Gagaman really enjoyed it, if I recall. Guess it just wasn't your thing.

Doubt you'd ever find it for cheap, which is why I think it should be rereleased.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Sega Uranus on January 27, 2011, 04:23:26 pm
Cosmic Smash is awesome man. The whole fact you beat it in your second go is the whole point of the game! It is exactly like Crazy Taxi in that way, and has multiple routes.

Also, there is a secret hidden boss I only ever saw twice in the game. Awesome.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: cube_b3 on January 28, 2011, 07:24:31 am
I think Barry is right, it isn't for me.

Crazy Taxi I always return to when ever I dust off my Dreamcast, I've long since lost that burned copy of Cosmic Smash and it isn't like I want to play it.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 28, 2011, 08:10:52 am
Quote from: "MadeManG74"
I know this is just a joke, but I still would punch you right in the mouth if I knew where you lived for that.
SPeaking of punching you in the mouth, it's been so long since we played VF5, let's do that again sometime.

Also the current rumour is that VF5 Final Showdown for PS360 is already in development.

Yeah! I'd be up for some VF5! Sorry if I've been absent in online fightin', I'm not the greatest at fighting games. So I tremble before a constant stream of "YOU LOSE" screens. Of course, that's what practice is for! You have VOOT? I tried playing that online yesterday and the lobbys were empty.

VF5: FS would be AWESOME as a console release. Hope rumors are true. I may not be an expert at VF games, but I love (and own) every release. VF2 on the Saturn is my personal favorite, as is VF1 32X.

Btw, why the heck hasn't AM2 added Ryo and Lan Di as unlockable fighters? They'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: cube_b3 on January 28, 2011, 01:19:51 pm
Can't you edit the players wardrobes to make Akira look like Ryo and that other guy can look like Lan-Di?
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Sega Uranus on January 28, 2011, 01:59:57 pm
Ryo and Lan Di's personalities are simulated as players in the Quest mode also, I forget where they show up though. Some other Shenmue characters do as well.

I entirely hate the idea of characters from other IPs being unlockable. The way they have it now is good, but they could do better. You cannot even properly make Joe Musashi without the on-disc DLC.

[youtube:yzz7vgj9]LZA4z3SK8os[/youtube:yzz7vgj9]

Outside the inclusion of Ulala being amazing, I really have to stress just how amazing that level's song is.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 28, 2011, 05:07:19 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
Quote from: "MadeManG74"
I know this is just a joke, but I still would punch you right in the mouth if I knew where you lived for that.
SPeaking of punching you in the mouth, it's been so long since we played VF5, let's do that again sometime.

Also the current rumour is that VF5 Final Showdown for PS360 is already in development.

Yeah! I'd be up for some VF5! Sorry if I've been absent in online fightin', I'm not the greatest at fighting games. So I tremble before a constant stream of "YOU LOSE" screens. Of course, that's what practice is for! You have VOOT? I tried playing that online yesterday and the lobbys were empty.

VF5: FS would be AWESOME as a console release. Hope rumors are true. I may not be an expert at VF games, but I love (and own) every release. VF2 on the Saturn is my personal favorite, as is VF1 32X.

Btw, why the heck hasn't AM2 added Ryo and Lan Di as unlockable fighters? They'd be perfect.

I do have VOOT, but I'm hopeless at it. We should have a go of that next time, maybe I can get a little better.

As for Ryo and Lan-Di, I don't think they would work in Virtua Fighter because they are so heavily based on Akira and Lau (kinda) that it would be pointless. As Cube and Snaus said, it would be better for them to give Akira all the costume pieces to become Ryo. Lau should get Lan Di and Bai-Hu.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 28, 2011, 08:45:36 pm
Yeah, or costume pieces. Those would be awsome, if they're anything like Ulala. Or better yet: Goro! His t-shirt is legendary.

(http://http://www.shenmuedojo.net/images/Wallpaper/800/Goro_800_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: cube_b3 on January 28, 2011, 11:32:17 pm
Every thing about Goro was so amazing that I never noticed his shirt.

If only this Goro gets paired up with our favorite Goro for a day, now that would be an adventure.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 29, 2011, 06:16:43 am
I considered recreating Goro's shirt graphic (and others) in illustrator and putting them up on Cafe Press. Not sure if that breaks copyright rules, but it would be pretty cool to have a shirt just like Goro's and Tom's.
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Sega Uranus on January 30, 2011, 05:37:20 am
His shirt is in VF5R and I have seen some of Majima's outfits in there too, I think his eye patch is in the Xbox 360 version, it is just not called anything like "Majima's eye patch".

Honestly, how could you not know about obscure inclusions of obscure cameos in a fairly obscure group of people who play the game that do not put all kinds of wacky shit on their character from a game almost none of us on the forums can even play instead? And you call yourselves SEGA fans...
Title: Re: Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis to iOS
Post by: Grant360 on February 03, 2011, 10:53:51 am
Awful awful game. Considering this is Unreal Enging 3 hardware this is a real shame Sega couldn't put the time in to release at least the arcade version. I know it is cheap and easy to release but even then I don't see why they would release this.