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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2010, 01:27:05 pm »
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I don't understand why they don't just port VC1 to the 360. Not that I want to play it, but it seems kind of silly that SEGA's best stuff (like Yakuza) is only on the PS3.

SEGA has deals in place with Sony.

You don't think the Valkyria Chronicles animation was funded solely by SEGA, did you?
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2010, 02:29:48 pm »
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Team Andromeda, do you know if the 20th Anniversary Sonic game will be using the Hedgehog Engine?

of course it will ! there is no any reason to question it
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2010, 03:52:18 pm »
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I don't understand why they don't just port VC1 to the 360. Not that I want to play it, but it seems kind of silly that SEGA's best stuff (like Yakuza) is only on the PS3.

If PSO2 (if real) turns out to be a PS3 exclusive, I'll freak out.

Games developed by Japanese studios geared towards a Japanese audience on a next gen system.  Now, but especially when they first came out, the PS3 has a much larger install base than the 360 there.
For the Yakuza series especially, the western market's been treated mostly as an afterthought (Yakuza 3), but thankfully things are changing a bit (Yakuza 4).
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2010, 05:52:03 pm »
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If PSO2 (if real) turns out to be a PS3 exclusive, I'll freak out.

Same here.

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Games developed by Japanese studios geared towards a Japanese audience on a next gen system.  Now, but especially when they first came out, the PS3 has a much larger install base than the 360 there.
For the Yakuza series especially, the western market's been treated mostly as an afterthought (Yakuza 3), but thankfully things are changing a bit (Yakuza 4).

SEGA started supporting the Xbox 360 first, and that is what most of us ended up getting. If not for SEGA, the three year gap they had between great releases made it easier to choose.

When it comes down to it, SEGA is pretty much one of the only studios left making big budget exclusives on it. Every publisher has proven that it is worthwhile to port all of these kind of games to Xbox 360 or PC, even in just Japanese units, there are enough out there to matter.

I am looking to get a PlayStation 3 next year, and while there are other things I want for sure, the biggest reason is because of the Yakuza games, and it is really frustrating for someone like me who has a hard time spending more than $20 on games even if I know I will adore them.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2010, 06:49:03 pm »
I don't really know that they supported the 360 over the PS3 in the beginning. Sure it had a few western developed exclusives early on (Condemned, Full Auto), but right off the bat the PS3 had Virtua Fighter 5 (exclusive at the time) and the version of Virtua Tennis 3 that was developed in-house by AM3 (instead of the port Sumo did for 360).

I'm not saying that it doesn't make sense financially for them to put these games out on as many systems as possible. Just that looking at the success of a big franchise like Yakuza in the west vs. in Japan, and the install base of the PS3 vs. the 360 there, I see where they're coming from.  Just look at the decision to put Valkyria Chronicles II on PSP.  The PSP's got a bigger install base than either the PS3 or 360 over there.  Even though the install base for it here really isn't that hot at all, that's the decision they went with.  Because there's more of a focus on selling it to the Japanese market.

Personally, I thought long and hard about which console to get.  I ended up getting the PS3 because most games are on both systems, but I didn't want to miss out on Yakuza 3, MGS4, or Valkyria Chronicles.
I got the PSP so I could play MGS: Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Crush, and Valkyra II.
That's not to say that I haven't discovered a good chunk of other really good exclusives for either though.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2010, 07:16:12 pm »
SEGA promised a lot arcade and Genesis ports early on for the Xbox 360 (Sony lied about Genesis games coming to PlayStation 3 before asking SEGA about it, so they decided not to work on PSN releases for years), and any with multiplayer would have online play. That was a big reason I got it at least, the other major ones being it would have the next major Sonic game on it first (as shameful as that is to admit!) and was $200 cheaper.

In the end it is really more important that the something like the Yakuza games come out to English territories at all, I guess.

Even still, if something major like Phantasy Star Online 2 were to be exclusive to anything, I would freak out bad, even if I had the platform.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2010, 09:15:16 pm »
I'm just hoping that if there is a PSO2, that it's not subscription based.
Microtransactions, I can handle, but I'd rather not be tied into paying 15 bucks a month to play a game if I can avoid it.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2010, 04:53:14 am »
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I think it's a bit fashionable on here to rag on the PSP game because so few forum members have a PSP.  When you're actually playing the game there really isn't much discernible difference between playing Valkyria 2 on PSP and playing the first game on a Standard-def TV.
The Canvas engine looks fantastic, but the PSP game's no slouch.  The characters have just the same amount of detail as far as animations go. The character models look very solid. About the only big difference is that their faces don't look as good, but it's not one of those things you generally pay that much attention to in-game.



I'm a big fan of the PSP, but Val II lost out horribly on the fomat in the GFX (the game its self is brilliant) . Its not just the difference with the faces or the number of polygons, its the complete lack of the shadow shader programme (giving that pencil like shadow effect) and the lighting effects are nowhere near as good, and they're just incredible in Val

Canvas is an incredible engine, VAL is still one of the best looking games around and its over 2 years old now. It makes me quite angry that SEGA never built on the Tech and pushed it on to a 2nd and 3rd generation of tech,  Like other developers have moved their engines forward and doing better and more impressive things (just look at how a company like Codemasters have pushed the EGO Tech for example, F1 2010 just looks something else)

I feel the same about Sonic Unleashed too. A great engine that should have been used and developed more .
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2010, 05:38:18 am »
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I think it's a bit fashionable on here to rag on the PSP game because so few forum members have a PSP.  When you're actually playing the game there really isn't much discernible difference between playing Valkyria 2 on PSP and playing the first game on a Standard-def TV.
The Canvas engine looks fantastic, but the PSP game's no slouch.  The characters have just the same amount of detail as far as animations go. The character models look very solid. About the only big difference is that their faces don't look as good, but it's not one of those things you generally pay that much attention to in-game.



I'm a big fan of the PSP, but Val II lost out horribly on the fomat in the GFX (the game its self is brilliant) . Its not just the difference with the faces or the number of polygons, its the complete lack of the shadow shader programme (giving that pencil like shadow effect) and the lighting effects are nowhere near as good, and they're just incredible in Val

Canvas is an incredible engine, VAL is still one of the best looking games around and its over 2 years old now. It makes me quite angry that SEGA never built on the Tech and pushed it on to a 2nd and 3rd generation of tech,  Like other developers have moved their engines forward and doing better and more impressive things (just look at how a company like Codemasters have pushed the EGO Tech for example, F1 2010 just looks something else)

I feel the same about Sonic Unleashed too. A great engine that should have been used and developed more .

Funny this is a guy commentating on a game that he said would never get a sequel even though it was already estabilshed(by me) that this game was getting one or two.  :lol:
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2010, 08:05:52 am »
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Funny this is a guy commentating on a game that he said would never get a sequel even though it was already estabilshed(by me) that this game was getting one or two

Oh we want to play childish little games Huh.
Weren't you the one PM's me on SEGA BIG New secret game (wanting me to tell all) I'n sure you remember the game (this thread is such a big hint)  Telling the board TA is mad know nothing and how VF 5 will never come to the 360?, Kenzan is being translated

I leave it alone if I were you.

Next you'l be praising SONIC TEAM
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2010, 08:36:58 am »
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Funny this is a guy commentating on a game that he said would never get a sequel even though it was already estabilshed(by me) that this game was getting one or two

Oh we want to play childish little games Huh.
Weren't you the one PM's me on SEGA BIG New secret game (wanting me to tell all) I'n sure you remember the game (this thread is such a big hint)  Telling the board TA is mad know nothing and how VF 5 will never come to the 360?, Kenzan is being translated

I leave it alone if I were you.

Next you'l be praising SONIC TEAM

Yet you still got it wrong, didn't you saying sega had no plans for a sequel and that it wouldn't happen because the game apparently flopped. When anyone who had any actual connection to asega that it was quite the opposite. How is that childish? Especially when you accuse me of being so and then threating to resort to it? Two can tango...

No i just wanted to see if you actually knew and what a suprise you didn't.

Stop lying. I said Kenzen was under consideration which you'd confirm that it was and at the time should have happened. Just because it didn't happen didn't mean i was wrong.

I've always praised Sonic Team, I just don't praise Yuji naka. Get that right.

What like you said VT could never be done on the Wii or Samba would never be released on the wii or that yakuza three would n't get localised or get cut?  Or how about Crucible when you said the name was changed and i said it didn't?  Or the 32x debacle which you shameslessy tried to make out SOA was responsible for when it was proved that it was SOJ and then you had the audacity that you were saying the reverse despite three other posters saying that you in fact didn't. And lots of other things too that you got wrong. Yes I'd leave it alone pal... really leave it alone.

I will leave it, until TGS is over.....
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2010, 10:39:54 am »
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Yet you still got it wrong, didn't you saying sega had no plans for a sequel and that it wouldn't happen because the game apparently flopped

Yes it sell like crap , that why the sequel was moved to the PSP. Remember that platform you said was Dead and SEGA have dropped all support for. Who knows maybe with better next gen sales of both the 360 and PS3 ,we might get a Next Gen version again  

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I've always praised Sonic Team, I just don't praise Yuji naka. Get that right

Not so long ago you were making fun of them , along with John. Maybe just to wind me up, because I happened to praise them. Who knows and who cares.  Oh and you do Praise Naka, when it came to Let's Tap.

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What like you said VT could never be done on the Wii

And I was quite right with VT on the Wii (it is shit and doesn't work). Its funny how what I said about a Tennis game needing to be in 3d and 1st Person view to be used with motion controls (oh I'm sure that post is still up) is now happing with VT 4.
And I said there isn't a sequel to Samba and isn't one on the PSP being developed  Which was and still is very much correct.

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Or how about Crucible when you said the name was changed and i said it didn't?
It's name was changed, if it ever sees the light of day, you'll find out


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Or the 32x debacle which you shameslessy tried to make out SOA was responsible for when it was proved that it was SOJ

It was SOA that made and developed the 32X, it was their baby after SOJ dropped plans for its Super Mega Drive, Jupiter and pushed ahead with the Saturn .
You need to ask Marty Franz and Scot Bayless, and get your facts straight.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles 3 Already Coming?
« Reply #57 on: September 13, 2010, 07:31:41 pm »
@Team Andromeda:
I get what you're saying about the loss of some of the unique visual flairs the original title had.  I'm just trying to say they did an excellent job of translating the overall game over to a portable platform.  That and it looks a lot nicer on the actual PSP screen, in action,  than it does in screenshots.
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