GamesRadar's The Top 7... Sega series we want back

[Barry the Nomad]

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/the-top-7-s ... 3743317002

Okay, it's SEGA, not Sega. Sick of that shit.

Anyway, what are all y'all's thoughts on the list and article? Personally, I sick and tired of reading the tired old article intro of "SEGA was the hardware king! Now they release hit or miss software blah blah blah". It's stupid and needs to stop.

As for the list, while I's be happy to see all of those return, I think it's a pretty crappy list. For one thing, they ignore series that actually need a continuation. I'm talking about Shenmue. That should be numero uno. Also, RPGs like Skies of Arcadia deserve to be expanded on in a sequel.

Burning Rangers is good enough as a stand alone game. It doesn't need a sequel. It's better off staying as that good Saturn game, I see little reason to make an ongoing series.

Toejam & Earl? No. It had a third game in 3D for the XBOX. It wasn't great, but it was good enough for some fun multiplayer action. Where else could the series go? Maybe taking what worked in TJ&E3 and adding an online mode? Even then, I'm not itching to play another TJ&E. I'd rather see them return in games like SASASR or Superstars Tennis. I like the characters, but think the gameplay can't go much further than it already has.

Shinobi. I agree with this!

Shining Force. Agree again! As we've whined about again and again here on the forums, we want a return to the gameplay and visual style of the old Shining Force games.

Phantasy Star. While I would like to see another single player RPG, I think they completely avoid talking about the upcoming PSO2. Instead they use a PSU screen and give a smarmy subtitle to it. Stupid.

Jet Set Radio. As much as I love the series, I'm going to have to disagree. Unless SEGA rounds up the original developers, and really pours some money into it, I don't want to see a JSR3. The series is great with two games, and I'd rather have it left at that. Perhaps rerelease JSR to XBLA/PSN and bring JSRF to games on demand first? I think there still is a lot of fun to be mined out of the first two before a third is developed.

Panzer Dragoon. I agree, but like JSR I think the priority should be to rerelease Panzer Dragoon Saga. Or release an upgraded version of the game. PDS, from what I've seen, is amazing and it's a real shame that it's far too expensive for the average person to play. Hell, I saw a copy at the games convention over the weekend for $275! Holy crap!

Should SEGA develop more PD games, I'd rather they do the PDS route, as Orta pretty much perfected the shooter version of the games. What more, there is Project Draco on the horizon which is pretty much Panzer Dragoon for Kinect. It's like saying "Child of Eden is coming soon, but SEGA really needs to develop a Rez 2!"

Yeah, so overall, a weak list. Thoughts? What 7 series would you like to see return?

[Suzuki Yu]

I agree with Shinobi , Phantasy Star , Jet Set Radio and Panzer Dragoon.
but where the hell is Shenmue & Skies of Arcadia ??

also

It was pretty hard to pick just seven Sega franchises worth resurrecting, as it excluded many beloved titles. Here are just some of the Sega greats that barely missed the cut. Did we miss your favorite?

is this a troll question??

[Sega Uranus]

Smells like troll in here. Why such a weird number, too?

I agree with most of Barry's comments. Though I think a new ToeJam & Early focused on either XBLA/PSN co-op design could be cool. Jet Set Radio could also make a cool online oriented game with online gangs I think.

Panzer Dragoon's design is a bit too basic for full price retail games of today, but I think a new Saga could do good if they did not go crazy with it's budget.

Shinobi absolutely needs to come back and I am not sure why we do not have one this gen. However, I am worried they will focus on generic close range combat and not focus on it's fundamentals, that being the 2D games are basically run n gun games. I think the first game was one if not the first title to establish that genre, actually.

[segaismysavior]

7. Toy Commander: I'm not sure if it's really needed to have another one, but the original was just so much fun and surprisingly competitive to beat levels in the shortest times. Very few games pull off so many different vehicles, and the toy theme added so much charm. Mad Tracks on XBLA gave me a short-lived fix, but that just offers racing, and I want to soar the skies in online matches. I would be fine with a port of the original, but a true sequel/reboot could blow me away.

6. Fighters Megamix: A no-brainer considering the Sega Superstars series and popularity of crossover fighting games.

5. Legend of Oasis: Nintendo takes its sweet time releasing Zelda games, and only Gameloft seems keen to replicate it. Why not bring this sucker back in 3D and show the world what an HD Zelda-killer should play like? Plenty of people yearn for something like Zelda that isn't stuck in the same conventions since 1998.

4. Panzer Dragoon: I could rock the first two, didn't finish Saga, and Orta pummels my face in. MORE.

3. Jet Set Radio: I will never get enough of this series, unless they did release a poorly done follow-up that ruined my hopes and dreams. Please just offer more buttons: I need one that I can hold to both cancel a grind in progress or avoid a grind when I want to jump OVER a rail.

2. Eternal Arcadia: We don't need to change the name to spite EA Games anymore, hence the original title. I loved playing with Vyse and Aika in Valkyria Chronicles, and want at least one more game in this series.

1. Shenmue: Yakuza offers an engine and pipeline perfect to finish this off. Nuff said.

[Centrale]

Okay, it's SEGA, not Sega. Sick of that shit.

To be fair, even Sega uses both.  I kind of prefer Sega to SEGA.  But if they were really true to the original acronym, wouldn't it be SeGa?  ;p

The list is a mixed bag.  I definitely want more Shinobi.  Actually I'd love to see the series branch off and have both a continuation of the 3D series from last gen, as well as 2D or 2.5D HD sidescrollers that build on the gameplay of the original series.

I think JSR could be evolved into having an open-world online multiplayer component where players in teams vie to control as many sections of the city as possible with their grafitti.  And I don't know how feasible it is to have the same team in its entirety once again, but definitely have the same director/art director and musicians.

I'd also love to see a new single-player-focused Phantasy Star, but I'm keeping my eyes on PSO2 as long as it isn't prohibitively expensive per month.

I'd be interested in an Outrun 3 which has a huge open environment like Burnout Paradise or Test Drive Unlimited, but with the classic silky smooth curving roads of Outrun.

[max_cady]

A XBLA port of Burning Rangers would be nice, but that game really needs a graphics filter.

[George]

Okay, it's SEGA, not Sega. Sick of that shit.

To be fair, even Sega uses both.  I kind of prefer Sega to SEGA.  But if they were really true to the original acronym, wouldn't it be SeGa?  ;p

The list is a mixed bag.  I definitely want more Shinobi.  Actually I'd love to see the series branch off and have both a continuation of the 3D series from last gen, as well as 2D or 2.5D HD sidescrollers that build on the gameplay of the original series.

I think JSR could be evolved into having an open-world online multiplayer component where players in teams vie to control as many sections of the city as possible with their grafitti.  And I don't know how feasible it is to have the same team in its entirety once again, but definitely have the same director/art director and musicians.

I'd also love to see a new single-player-focused Phantasy Star, but I'm keeping my eyes on PSO2 as long as it isn't prohibitively expensive per month.

I'd be interested in an Outrun 3 which has a huge open environment like Burnout Paradise or Test Drive Unlimited, but with the classic silky smooth curving roads of Outrun.

Clearly the logo says SEGA, they are all capital.

[tarpmortar]

Ok list, not great. I'd say mine, from 7-1, are:

7. Rent-A-Hero, this game needs to finally start coming to America. I think it could be pulled off as a handheld series now-a-days.

6. Fighting Vipers, this series needs to return, it's more accessible than Virtua Fighter but is still a great fighting series.

5. Surging Aura, a Genesis RPG classic. A remake would be great.

4. Jet Set Radio, I think most of us want this franchise back. Really unique gameplay, great art direction, fun level designs and fantastic tunes.

3. Panzer Dragoon, every title in this series is great. Except Mini, it's just OK. Never played Saga though, they could start with a remake, I know they lost the source. Use a engine and rebuild guys.

2. Nights into Dreams, I don't count the Wii sequel. It doesn't exist, I want a real return.

1. Shenmue, very obvious why this is number 1.

[MadeManG74]

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/the-top-7-sega-series-we-want-back/a-2011050913743317002

Okay, it's SEGA, not Sega. Sick of that shit.

I remember it being Sega long before it was SEGA.

I didn't read anything else in the thread yet.

[Barry the Nomad]

Clearly the logo says SEGA, they are all capital.

I blame the frequent use of "Sega" on poor brand management. The SEGA PR department needs to send out a memo to all staff clarifying the proper capitalization. My company did that a few months back and now we have a consistent image. Before we had three to four different ways of writing the company name and it got too confusing.

When referring to SEGA proper, I do all caps as that is how the official SEGA website does it. The blogs also know what's up as they use all caps SEGA as well. Only time I really see "Sega" is external media, wikipedia or when it is used in the title of something. Like "Sega Rosso" is Sega Rosso, not SEGA Rosso.

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/the-top-7-sega-series-we-want-back/a-2011050913743317002

Okay, it's SEGA, not Sega. Sick of that shit.

I remember it being Sega long before it was SEGA.

I didn't read anything else in the thread yet.

True, back in the day they used Sega officially quite often (print materials and consoles were branded with Sega Enterprises, Ltd. But as of recent I've seen the shift towards all caps SEGA so I've followed suit.

[Centrale]

Well, I'll say this... a lot of companies have all-caps logos; that doesn't mean the company's legal name is in all caps.  But, I guess you're right, Barry, judging by their website.  A cursory overview of their official materials does seem to bear you out.  But it just looks inelegant to me in text form.  The logo itself I think is timeless, somehow perpetually futuristic-looking.  This is going to be a difficult transition for the Centrale, I tell ya what.

[tarpmortar]

True, back in the day they used Sega officially quite often (print materials and consoles were branded with Sega Enterprises, Ltd. But as of recent I've seen the shift towards all caps SEGA so I've followed suit.

Yup, little known fact, the reason Dreamcast failed; Sega Dreamcast, it wasn't in caps! The idiots.

[George]

Sega used to print both Sega and SEGA back in the early 90's. Hateing? Don't.

[segaismysavior]

Verbatim from Sega Saturn RF Unit instructions:

"Sega and Sega Saturn are trademarks of SEGA."

So SEGA has every right to use Sega as they please to represent SEGA, but for anyone else to use Sega doesn't properly symbolize SEGA.  

I guess I have to change my handle to SEGAismysavior...

[George]

Policy at SEGAbits for writers: Use what you fancy, it means the same thing in the end of the day.