Jesus

[fluffymoochicken]

You'd be surprised how much enviromentalism borrows heavily from the judeo-christian ideology.

From it's romantic view of nature which is similar to the garden of even but without humans, their worship of Earth as a deity, the occasional reference to Al Gore as an Oracle and even carbon credits and proposed CO2 taxes which is quite similar to how the church operated with something called a sin tax.

LMAO, why hello, frothing far right conservative. :lol:

I myself am a pro-environmentalist, but that's primarily because I don't have my head stuck up my ass. As such, I don't believe in the earth being a deity or Al Gore being some kind of Oracle. There are pro-environmentalists in nearly every country, you know, and not all of them pay as much attention to Al Gore as the United States does.

I wouldn't mind a CO2 tax. However, it wouldn't be to punish a "sin" like the evil and manipulative leaders of Christianity would do. Instead, I'd support a tax so as to encourage corporations to clean up their emissions. Those guys don't understand anything other than money, I'm afraid.

The comparison between the two, however, ends when enviromentalism uses thuggish tactics towards skeptics(granted that there was the inquisition, but this is the 21st century, not the dak ages), guilts people and scares the hell out of them with proficies of forthcoming doom(there is armaggedon, but once again, this is the 21st century, not the dark ages).

Um, no, you're ignorant if you believe that Christianity is not guilty of fear-mongering to this very day. Go watch Fox News or Focus on the Family and you'll see it all the time.

Or better yet, go to Jack Chick's website and read some of his totally insane comics.

"Helping the poor" is generally Socialism's de facto excuse to do anything but...

Funny enough, the Jesus that anti-welfare proponents love is not Jesus of Nazareth, it's Supply-Side Jesus:
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/0 ... anken.html

That comic is a great read. ^_^

[max_cady]

Yes, corporations are souless, profit-driven corporations that rape the delicate earth. Yes, modernization and industrialization is destroying the delicate balance of nature. How evil, greedy, selfish, yada yada yada...

You're right, that's not a simple-minded, ignorant and uninformed mindest, not in the slightest.

There are pro-environmentalists in nearly every country, you know, and not all of them pay as much attention to Al Gore as the United States does.

Surprisingly nobody seems to pay much attention to Al Gore or any major enviromental advocates say in the United States, for that matter.

um, no, you're ignorant if you believe that Christianity is not guilty of fear-mongering to this very day. Go watch Fox News or Focus on the Family and you'll see it all the time.

Ah, but you don't, in any way, shape or form, deny that enviromentalism also resorts to bullying, fear-mongering, uses colonial guilt tactics to get their points across?

Watch Penn & Teller's BS instead.

In that case, they are both bad.

Man, I am so bored...


Update: But, hey, don't get me wrong, I am not taking sides on this matter. Whoever prays in church and whoever turns off the lights for a full hour, to each his own.

[fluffymoochicken]

Yes, corporations are souless, profit-driven corporations

Redundancy is redundant.

You're right, that's not a simple-minded, ignorant and uninformed mindest, not in the slightest.

Well, that might be true, except for the clear fact that you're trying to put words into my mouth.

The things you said were not the things that I said. Hooray for typical conservative bullshit tactics! =P

Ah, but you don't, in any way, shape or form, deny that enviromentalism also resorts to bullying, fear-mongering, uses colonial guilt tactics to get their points across?

Some do, but not all. The same goes for Christians.

However, if I had to choose between listening to the global consensus of the scientific community or listening to mentally deficient conservative opinion writers such as Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, then I'll listen to the scientists.

That's what rationally thinking people do.

Update: But, hey, don't get me wrong, I am not taking sides on this matter.

Lmao, says the guy who defended Christianity, then turned right around and made completely insane generalizations about anyone who's ever cared about the environment.

Oh yes, such a moderate. :lol:

[MadeManG74]

So this guy is in a bar getting absolutely plastered one night, when the bartender has finally had enough of him and throws him out onto the street.

The drunken man starts stumbling around and comes across two Priests walking by.
"I'm Jesus!" Shouts the drunk man. One of the Priests looks at him and says
"No you aren't"
"Yes I am" He replies, "Look, I'll prove it to you!"
The Priests look at eachother and decide to follow the man, they had to see this.

The drunk walks back to the bar and kicks open the front door and stumbles in. The bartender takes one look at him and yells
"Jesus Christ, you're back already!?"

[max_cady]

I also liked the part where The Terminator was sent back in time to protect Him.
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[George]

That Jesus Terminator sketch was the first one I ever say from MadTV.

[Sega Stylista]

Jesus is a composite of greco, roman, and egyptian mythical elements imposed on judaic theology and adapted to the western world.

Jesus never lived. There is absolutely nothing historical about the gospel.  Jesus is a work of literature unlike his "cousin" John the baptizer who was a real historical person.

Jesus is gay and will get you no where in life.

I do believe in a eternal creator.

Christianity is false and is rooted in collectivism and socialism as it was the lower class scum rejects of ancient jewish society that began the movement.

Biblical literalism=idiocy

The moral truth of a story is what counts and not the literary context it occurs in. The basis of enlightenment is a principled conception of morality and not a mythical, emotional, humanistic, or personal one.

[crackdude]

There is more proof of the existence of Jesus than the existence of Aristotle. Discuss.

[George]

You'd think the son of God would have been in more history stuff at the time, especially if he feed 100's of people with fish, walked on water and was crucified and resurrected.

[crackdude]

I don't get why everyone talks about how him walking on water would have made everyone impressed. Only his apostles saw him do that.

But anyway, those records were presumably destroyed when Nero burned up Rome and blamed Christians for it, I think.

The accuracy of the Bible on all of it's descriptions and prophecies is what makes it really stand out. That includes historical accuracy as well.

[MadeManG74]

Jesus is gay and will get you no where in life.

I don't mind you expressing your beliefs, but that is incredibly offensive. Please find a more appropriate way to voice your beliefs.

As for there being little to no proof of Jesus existing, I'm pretty sure there are a number of non-biblical/gospel texts that reference him. Don't forget all the Apocrypha that Sharky mentioned as well. I think it's unlikely that everything written about him was a set-up or a lie.

Anyway...
On the day of Jesus' crucifixtion he was on the cross on top of the mountain, and Peter was in the crowd looking on. Jesus cried out 'Peter!' and then Peter started running towards him to speak to him.
He fell over into the mud but kept hearing Jesus say 'Peter!' so he got up and kept going. The Roman Guards shoved him down and kicked him, but he heard his name called again and kept running.

Finally he reached the cross, exhausted.
"What is it? What do you need?"
"Peter, I can see your house from here!"

[crackdude]

Anyway...
On the day of Jesus' crucifixtion he was on the cross on top of the mountain, and Peter was in the crowd looking on. Jesus cried out 'Peter!' and then Peter started running towards him to speak to him.
He fell over into the mud but kept hearing Jesus say 'Peter!' so he got up and kept going. The Roman Guards shoved him down and kicked him, but he heard his name called again and kept running.

Finally he reached the cross, exhausted.
"What is it? What do you need?"
"Peter, I can see your house from here!"

ahaha I love these jokes.

[MadeManG74]

Just trying to lighten the mood a bit, I don't want this to get too heated :p

[George]

I don't get why everyone talks about how him walking on water would have made everyone impressed. Only his apostles saw him do that.

But anyway, those records were presumably destroyed when Nero burned up Rome and blamed Christians for it, I think.

The accuracy of the Bible on all of it's descriptions and prophecies is what makes it really stand out. That includes historical accuracy as well.

Most of the historical accuracies (not many btw) are taken from earlier Pagan stories. So, now you believe in Odin and Zeus as well?

[Barry the Nomad]

Anybody catch South Park 's episode "201"? Jesus was (fictionally portrayed as) a dirty man. Shame *bleep* didn't get face time.