Capcom is allowing "Hostile Takeover" Buyout

[Team Andromeda]

Puh leeze don't use a handful of companies whose situations for them going under had nothing to do with the PC market as an example to strengthen

What are you on about ? In the 90's the likes of Sierra was massive with Gabriel Knight, Half Life , Leisure suit Harry to name by a few in its stable , Westwood were behind one of the biggest selling PC games of all time  , Origin systems were massive with Wing Commander , Ulimta series to its name and well MicroProse had Syd Meier Civilization and Geoff's GP F1  to its name (which was once massive on the PC).


And there's more  like Strategic Simulations,Looking Glass, DiD, Spectrum Holobyte  were once renowned PC developers or publishers that's gone bell up , even MS don't take much interest in games for windows any more

[ROJM]

What are you on about ? In the 90's the likes of Sierra was massive with Gabriel Knight, Half Life , Leisure suit Harry to name by a few in its stable , Westwood were behind one of the biggest selling PC games of all time  , Origin systems were massive with Wing Commander , Ulimta series to its name and well MicroProse had Syd Meier Civilization and Geoff's GP F1  to its name (which was once massive on the PC).


And there's more  like Strategic Simulations,Looking Glass, DiD, Spectrum Holobyte  were once renowned PC developers or publishers that's gone bell up , even MS don't take much interest in games for windows any more

No, what ARE you Talking about? I never said anything about those companies not being successful in their day? So again what are you talking about? Those companies didn't go under because of the PC market. Complete different situations that caused their demise, not a reflection that the market has gone weak, if it was then you might as well say THQ going kaput is an example of the console market being weak in the west. Give it up.
Geez you really have fallen from any grace you use to have...

[Team Andromeda]

Those companies didn't go under because of the PC market.

Now you're having a laugh .

not a reflection that the market has gone weak

It's a refection that the PC market is not once what it was and piracy and consoles have played their part in that . In 90's  walk in to any major retail shop and you'll see huge PC sections , now that simple isn't the case and even on-line retailers push console games more than PC .


More of us might have PC, less of us buy PC games though

THQ going kaput is an example of the console market being weak in the west

No its just yet another example of a corp run badly . Love it when you say its weak in the west , When Watch Dogs as smashed all sorts of records for a new IP and GTA V has sold over 30 million copies in less than a year .

[ROJM]

Don't come with that cop out . Think like that then Candy Crash is the best selling game of all time . I'm on about real games that come in at full price .

A game is a game regardless on what you or i think of it. It counts as a game and so would its sales and the industry its in.Don't try and spin us with that line..

Its just the Japanese has shrunk and the west is where the money is to be made . If there was so much money to be made on the PC , Microsoft wouldn't be dropping games for windows the likes of Epic and id wouldn't go near consoles (and just let others port their games) . There's a huge difference to running a corp that makes indie games , to a consumer team the size of SEGA Japans (some 2000 staff just for the console section )

Microsoft has problems across the board so its hardly a good example of why they are cutting back..they're cutting back on console development too so does that mean the console market is in trouble? See it destroys your argument..

Ok then what about Halo 3 - 13 million plus, Gears of War -5 million plus, Last of Us 5 million plus, MGS IV -5 million plus, GT 5 - 5 million plus , Uncharted 3 - 4 million , GOW III - 5 plus , Assassin Creed 3 -10  million plus (just on the consoles) .

All the big brands...yes that's a good example...that's like saying sugar won't sell because people won't have it on their cornflakes or tea..of course those games are going to sell big...

Look at any sales charts and see console game sales smash to bits PC games and that the majority of the of games are console games , those are facts .

Not really. Leave out the big brands and you will see a very different picture. PC sales have sustainable growth while smaller games struggle to even sell a decent number.

Yeah that's why MH IV is one of capcom best selling games ever on a handheld .

He said mobile not Handheld. Again we see you spinning to prove a point. Capcom said their digital division took a hit and is the reason they have floundered(among other excuses from other year after year of failure) I posted that link on here.   And again using a game that is a big gun even though its a handheld game doesn't prove anything. In fact you keep using the big ips to prove a point. Where is Megaman? Breath of fire..and all their mid range games that collectively can help you middle line..how are their sales?

Never said otherwise , but Square posted a pretty disastrous set of results for 2013  lets remember .

That has happened since the dawn of gaming I think you'll find . PS and PS2 are the best selling consoles of all time , but hey plenty of console developers went to the wall, plenty went to the wall in the 8 and 16nit hey days . Not that there hasn't been plenty of PC developers that haven't gone to the wall either .

You are all over the place. You're saying and using examples of PC game publishers going to the wall as an example of the PC market being weak compared to the console market and then use this excuse about companies going to the wall isn't a reflection on the market being weak..the same thing i have said..Don't you read what you even type?LOL

No its called a fact , even the likes of PC world now support consoles sales as they know that's where the money is . The list of PC -only developers to what it was in the 1990's is tiny . I'm sure you might try and bang on about indie but they're most prob better on the smart phones and the like .

That's like saying we have a list of console only developers which aren't many..or handheld only developers which aren't many etc etc..your excuses and spins get remarkable by the day....

[ROJM]

Now you're having a laugh .
blah blah...

Yes were all laughing at you..

[Team Andromeda]

A game is a game regardless on what you or i think of it.

It's a game , but its not comparable to a consumer full retail price game .

Microsoft has problems across the board so its hardly a good example of why they are cutting back

MS is making a ton of cash, but its Games for Windows are not that great and so MS is just dropping it slowly

they're cutting back on console development too so does that mean the console market is in trouble

Its called making sure shareholders get great returns . Apple lay off staff all the time, you're going to make out the I-Pad or I-Phone is in trouble ?

All the big brands...yes that's a good example.

Sigh ...  Gears, Assassins, Last Of Us (only came out last year for crying out loud)  were all brand new IP  this gen and it doesn't matter if the likes of GTA are established IP   - its shows console games sales have never been better

Not really. Leave out the big brands and you will see a very different picture

Just look on-line or walk into any shop and see console games space dwarf that of the PC .

He said mobile not Handheld. Again we see you spinning to prove a point

Is this coming from the one that refuses to agree Capcom makes a profit ? Capcom pulled in a billion in sales this year - not bad at all . Mobile to me is handheld , but fair enough Capcom don't do so great on the smart phone they do a hell of lot better than SEGA on the hand held .

Where is Megaman? Breath of fire..

IP that had their day  but Capcom still look after the fans with new Street Fighter, RE , Marvel Vs Capcom, DMC, Sengoku , Monster Hunter to go along with new IP .


Where's SEGA Japan with sequels To Skies, Shenmue, JSR, REZ, Space Channel 5, Shinobi and tons more of classic SEGA IP . All we get now if endless sequels to Sonic and Yakuza

 
 

[Aki-at]

Ok then what about Halo 3 - 13 million plus, Gears of War -5 million plus, Last of Us 5 million plus, MGS IV -5 million plus, GT 5 - 5 million plus , Uncharted 3 - 4 million , GOW III - 5 plus , Assassin Creed 3 -10  million plus (just on the consoles) .

Look at any sales charts and see console game sales smash to bits PC games and that the majority of the of games are console games , those are facts .

Minecraft over 16 million sales, World of Warcraft over 14 million, Diablo 3 over 12 million, Battlefield 2 over 11 million, The Sims 3 over 10 million, Starcraft 2 over 6 million, Guild Wars 2 over 4 million. And hey how about we add some indie games? DayZ over 2 million, The Binding of Issac over 2 million, Terraria over 3 million. I'm not even throwing in stuff like Phantasy Star Online 2 and Final Fantasy XV which are the most successful entries in their respective series.

That's not being smashed to bits, that's being better than consoles. So again no, you're wrong.

Yeah that's why MH IV is one of capcom best selling games ever on a handheld .

Handheld = / = Mobile titles. We're not talking about core gaming, we're talking about mobile phone games and on that Capcom is lacking.

Never said otherwise , but Square posted a pretty disastrous set of results for 2013  lets remember .

And this was due to their console titles failing. Not their mobile titles, so what are you trying to add here? Either you're in agreement consoles was bad news for them and their PC & mobile titles stopped it being worse or you're just trying to paint their mobile division as the cause of the losses, which it was not.

That has happened since the dawn of gaming I think you'll find . PS and PS2 are the best selling consoles of all time , but hey plenty of console developers went to the wall, plenty went to the wall in the 8 and 16nit hey days . Not that there hasn't been plenty of PC developers that haven't gone to the wall either .

There are more companies going bankrupt in the last generation than there has ever been in any other generation. Don't act like it's the norm, it was not.

And yes, PC developers go bankrupt, that's not the point. The point is your idea that console gaming is the holy grail of gaming is outdated and out of touch with the very reality around you.

No its called a fact , even the likes of PC world now support consoles sales as they know that's where the money is . The list of PC -only developers to what it was in the 1990's is tiny . I'm sure you might try and bang on about indie but they're most prob better on the smart phones and the like .

Its a lie and don't sprout nonsense, bring more proof that a PC game sold more than Minecraft in the 90s? Or Diablo 3? Or Starcraft? Or the amount of users for Steam? You can't because you just invented a figure in your head.

And what the bloody hell is that indie point suppose to mean? If you're going to argue that games like Rogue Legacy are better on smartphones then you really are out of touch with gaming.

[ROJM]

It's a game , but its not comparable to a consumer full retail price game .

Yet it makes plenty of money. I remember not too long ago that you were advocating Sega to jump on the dance game craze because it cost them little money and make tons of it. Now you're basically saying that this isn't regarded as a game because it does the dame thing..little money but huge returns? What a joke.

MS is making a ton of cash, but its Games for Windows are not that great and so
MS is just dropping it slowly

No they're cutting down because they're losing money across the board.

Its called making sure
shareholders get great returns . Apple lay off staff all the time, you're going
to make out the I-Pad or I-Phone is in trouble ?

They do it when its either projected that they wil have losses or the company is going to get them and are suffering through it.

Sigh ...  Gears, Assassins, Last Of Us (only came out last year for crying
out loud)  were all brand new IP  this gen and it doesn't matter if
the likes of GTA are established IP   - its shows console games sales have
never been better

GEARS ASSSASSINS are estabilshed IPs that been around for a while so has the Last of us. They're big franchises that will always sell well. Again you can't find a better example than games that have a estabilshed userbase. Warcraft..Total War and so on i could easily use because they are the big guns of the PC world of gaming. But its the games inbetween and their sales is what tells how healthy a industry is or a company. And the fact that you can't find any example apart from the usual big name games goes to show you lost this argument four posts back..

Just look on-line or walk into any shop and see console games space dwarf that
of the PC .

Yes that proves it don't it...

Is this coming from the one that refuses to agree Capcom makes a profit ? Capcom
pulled in a billion in sales this year - not bad at all . Mobile to me is
handheld , but fair enough Capcom don't do so great on the smart phone they do a
hell of lot better than SEGA on the hand held .

Backtracking are we? You just said thery did well on mobile than tried to change it to handheld..really are desperate. Sega made more profits than Capcom on a year to year basis they are more stable than capcom has been in years....

Again who is in the better position to buy who?

IP that had their day  but Capcom still look after the fans with new Street
Fighter, RE , Marvel Vs Capcom, DMC, Sengoku , Monster Hunter to go along with
new IP .

Not according to George or other fans of Capcom....

Where's SEGA Japan with sequels To Skies, Shenmue, JSR, REZ, Space Channel 5,
...

Games that didn't make any money..yeah that is a really good example..
 
 

[ROJM]

Minecraft over 16 million sales, World of Warcraft over 14 million, Diablo 3
over 12 million, Battlefield 2 over 11 million, The Sims 3 over 10 million,
Starcraft 2 over 6 million, Guild Wars 2 over 4 million. And hey how about we
add some indie games? DayZ over 2 million, The Binding of Issac over 2 million,
Terraria over 3 million. I'm not even throwing in stuff like Phantasy Star
Online 2 and Final Fantasy XV which are the most successful entries in their
respective series

That's not being smashed to bits, that's being better than consoles. So again no, you're wrong..

But that is how to smash to bits TA's argument..As well as the fact PCs didn't become mainstream until the late nineties and the dawn of the internet age...Games sales reflect that because people can afford PCS now than they couldback in the early to mid nineties..Meaning PCs are bigger as a market than they were back in the nineties...

Handheld = / = Mobile titles. We're not talking about core gaming, we're talking
about mobile phone games and on that Capcom is lacking.

And that's their problem..they have nothing to fall back on..they have assets that are completly useless to them..games that aren't doing well on a regular basis..just sequels that takes a while to make and release to market..inbetween those titles they're screwed...and even those big guns aren't enough to sustain them considering how big they have become.
Sega had a bad 2012 when it came to consoles but their revenue came from digital, PC, pachislot and other assets that saved their asses so to speak. That's the point TA keeps missing.

And this was due to their console titles failing. Not their
mobile titles, so what are you trying to add here? Either you're in agreement
consoles was bad news for them and their PC & mobile titles stopped it being
worse or you're just trying to paint their mobile division as the cause of the
losses, which it was not.

There are more companies going bankrupt in the
last generation than there has ever been in any other generation. Don't act like
it's the norm, it was not.

Exactly..

And yes, PC developers go bankrupt, that's not the point. The point is your idea
that console gaming is the holy grail of gaming is outdated and out of touch
with the very reality around you.

Beautiful quote..almost made me cry...

Its a lie and don't sprout nonsense, bring more proof that a PC game sold more
than Minecraft in the 90s? Or Diablo 3? Or Starcraft? Or the amount of users for
Steam? You can't because you just invented a figure in your head.

And
what the bloody hell is that indie point suppose to mean? If you're going to
argue that games like Rogue Legacy are better on smartphones then you really are
out of touch with gaming.

CLAP CLAP CLAP..
Well done, dear chap..wel done...

[Team Andromeda]

Minecraft over 16 million sales, World of Warcraft over 14 million, Diablo 3 over 12 million, Battlefield 2 over 11 million, The Sims 3 over 10 million, Starcraft 2 over 6 million, Guild Wars 2 over 4 million

Hey Mindcraft sells 13 million on the 360 too . And yes great sales but compared to console sales of COD or GTA V they're not even close .

I'm not even throwing in stuff like Phantasy Star Online 2 and Final Fantasy XV

Good I wouldn't . PSO II online sales are dwarfed by Monster Hunter IV sales alone and well Final Fantasy XIV has been outsold by Dark Souls II on the console hasn't it, never mind console sales of Square own Tomb Raider .

I remember not too long ago that you were advocating Sega to jump on the dance gam

If Candy crush saga was A) A music game and B) a full price game you'll have a point . Overlooking that the strong sales of Project Diva shows I was right to say you can get decent sales with music games *rolls eyes*

GEARS ASSSASSINS are estabilshed IPs that been around for a while so has the Last of us

Huh?  Gears is a new IP as was Assasins for this gen and Last of Us it barely a year old  .

Not according to George or other fans of Capcom

what sort of crackpot answer is that ?

Yes that proves it don't it

Yes it does . Anything that sells well retail will support be that online or in retail shops .

Backtracking are we? You just said thery did well on mobile than tried to change it to handheld

No . I'm not the one that likes to make out that Capcom makes a loss . I class mobile as handheld , but fine if you want to separate them fine . If that's the case Capcom don't do great on smart phone , but in the 3DS it's another story . SEGA on the other hand don't do so great on the handhelds .

Games that didn't make any money

Streets of Rage made money , so did Ecco, so did Shinobi  where's the sequels to them ?

[/color]And this was due to their [/size]console[/color][/size] titles failing. Not their mobile titles, so what are you trying to add here[/color]

So if console don't sell they don't make a profit - Shows you where the moneys to be made

No they're cutting down because they're losing money across the board.

They're posting mega profits - but are getting hit hard by tablet sales and android . Still make tons of cash

There are more companies going bankrupt in the last generation than there has ever been in any other generation

No they were loads that went bust in 32 Bit gen alone, never mind the jump to 128 bit .

The point is your idea that console gaming is the holy grail of gaming is outdated and out of touch with the very reality around you.

So why are the PS3 , 360 PS4 and XBox 1 selling so well then ? .


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Its a lie and don't sprout nonsense, bring more proof that a PC game sold more than Minecraft in the 90s? Or Diablo 3? Or Starcraft? Or the amount of users for Steam? You can't because you just invented a figure in your head.

A handful of games at the end of the day . I mean Mario Kart on the Wii sells far more than any of those games , but that doesn't show the real picture for the Wii and how the 360 and PS3 were the better for retail . Face facts all the top PC developers that are left now need to make console games too , and retail be that on the streets or on-line gives for more space to the console games than PC.

[MadeManG74]

One thing I feel I should point out in regards to PC sales; we should take into account how many of those sales were made during insane discounts on Steam Sales and GOG sales etc. Civ V is the most owned game on steam, but that's mostly because it's been given away for free so many times for example.
Many games also regularly go on sale for $5 or less.

Having said that, Steam takes ~30% of the gross, but apart from that there's no manufacturing costs or logistics to worry about, and I think (think) that there is no licensing fee like there is with console titles (which is why you never see titles go below around $20 unless they are clearance).

[ROJM]

Hey Mindcraft sells 13 million on the 360 too . And yes great sales but compared to console sales of COD or GTA V they're not even close .

Ye you still can't provide the evidence of mid range titles. A mid range title sales for PC far outstrips that of a console mid range title.

Good I wouldn't . PSO II online sales are dwarfed by Monster Hunter IV sales alone and well Final Fantasy XIV has been outsold by Dark Souls II on the console hasn't it, never mind console sales of Square own Tomb Raider .

Yet PSO sales beat Monster Hunter ten to one on mobile and PC and even on the PSx handheld....

If Candy crush saga was A) A music game and B) a full price game you'll have a point . Overlooking that the strong sales of Project Diva shows I was right to say you can get decent sales with music games *rolls eyes*

Wrong..PROJECT DIVA made its money on mobile and handhelds before it was expanded onto bigger machines like arcades and console. That's why Sega put that game on them in the first place because the series had grown enough and big enough to warrant it..like they do with other big games that they have..And CC is still the same thing regardless of format. Just because its not made for console doesn't make it a lesser game.

Huh?  Gears is a new IP as was Assasins for this gen and Last of Us it barely a year old  .

Yeah because they all debut on the XBO, PS4 and WiiU..LOL..

what sort of crackpot answer is that ?

Yes it does . Anything that sells well retail will support be that online or in retail shops .

Which is why the PC floor is bigger than the console one..

No . I'm not the one that likes to make out that Capcom makes a loss . I class mobile as handheld , but fine if you want to separate them fine . If that's the case Capcom don't do great on smart phone , but in the 3DS it's another story . SEGA on the other hand don't do so great on the handhelds .

PSO and ATLUS says hello on handheld..and Sega also makes a kiling in digital and mobile....more than Capcom does..

Capcom has made making a loss for years..you're the only person in the whole world that wants to cling on to the idea that they haven't.

Streets of Rage made money , so did Ecco, so did Shinobi  where's the sequels to them ?

You didn't mention those games at first you just mentioned the Dc games in some banal attempt to get people to join your cause. Why mention ECCO when you only believe that Sega japan games are the only type of games Sega should be making\? You keep contradicting yourself. And sega has made dozens of sequels of games..we had the sequel to GUNSTAR HEROES and AFTERBURNER, OUTRUN and SEGARALLY we had several sequels to PSO, we had sequels to HOTD as well as sequels on newer titles like BORDERBREAK and SANGOKUSHI TAISEN. We even had a SHINOBI game and a spin off. So don't act like Sega never makes any sequels to their classic titles...

 So if console don't sell they don't make a profit -

Ask Nintendo...

They're posting mega profits - but are getting hit hard by tablet sales and android . Still make tons of cash

An that's why they've had a loss and cutting back..for gods sake..

No they were loads that went bust in 32 Bit gen alone, never mind the jump to 128 bit .

And yet the 32bit and 128 bit markets wer more than healthy..contradicting yourself again..

So why are the PS3 , 360 PS4 and XBox 1 selling so well then ? .

Compared to mobile which outstrips them all especially in Japan where the console market has shrunk?

A handful of games at the end of the day . I mean Mario Kart on the Wii sells far more than any of those games , but that doesn't show the real picture for the Wii and how the 360 and PS3 were the better for retail . Face facts all the top PC developers that are left now need to make console games too , and retail be that on the streets or on-line gives for more space to the console games than PC.

When was the last time Warcraft appeared on console or Company of Heroes? Keep talking tosh...

[Team Andromeda]

Ye you still can't provide the evidence of mid range titles. A mid range title sales for PC far outstrips that of a console mid range title

What is this ? I haven't even talk of consoles sales of the likes of Fable 2, Saints Row, Forza Red Dead redemption, Rock Band, Band Hero , Mass Effect, Bioshock , FallOut 3 , Dead Or Alive, Fifa, Madden, Motorstorm, Killzone, Heavy Rain  all of which are million +  sellers and where the PC versions out compressively out sold by the console versions


There's a reason why even once PC exclusives games like COD now have a bigger push and focus on Consoles .

Yet PSO sales beat Monster Hunter ten to one on mobile and PC and even on the PSx handheld

When you sell more copies at full price I don't think Capcom is too bothered . Monster Hunter IV sells more copies in one week than PSO II as sold to date .

Wrong..PROJECT DIVA made its money on mobile and handhelds before it was expanded onto bigger machines like arcades and console.

What the hell are you on about ? I never said it didn't make money and wow great SEGA using a Arcade game that done well and porting in to a console (like we never seen that before ) With music games doing well , I said SEGA should have offered it own answer to Just Dance and the like


You know yet another console game that sells in the millions and a mid range title to boot .

Yeah because they all debut on the XBO

How changing their tune now ? . X Box One and PS4 haven't been out a year yet. But overlooking that GTA V and Last of Us only came out last year and sold millions , like Fifa , COD Ect did last year . Yeah the console market is in trouble aright .

Which is why the PC floor is bigger than the console one

Where ? . Hardly any shops give more space for PC's games these days and hell every E3 for the past 10 years or so has been dominated by the consoles .

PSO and ATLUS says hello on handheld.

Atlus that's the corp that was doing so well it had to be bought out to save it  ? Monster Hunter IV sells more copies alone than PSO I and II , PSO II  and Persona IV put together .

Capcom has made making a loss for years.

They haven't and I'll defy you to prove it

You didn't mention those games at first you just mentioned the Dc games in some banal attempt to get people to join your cause

No you tried playing the old IP card . Want more . Where the sequels to the likes of  World Wide Soccer, Story Of Thor 2, Comix Zone , Vectorman , Fighting Mega Mix , Dragon Force, Wonderboy, Burning Rangers , ClockworkKnight, Alex Kid, Ristarstar, Deep Fear, Panzer Dragoon Saga - There's loads more and not a DC title in sight .

Ask Nintendo

Nintendo consoles do sell - Trouble is its just the handlehelds and with the Wii and Wii U they've played the gimmick card to much . casuals don't buy games week in week out .

An that's why they've had a loss and cutting back

Serious you reckon you have stock market experience....

[/size][size=1.077em]Microsoft reported better than expected earnings of $5.2bn (£3.2bn).[/size]
[/size][size=1.077em]Profits at the technology giant were up 17% from the same period last year.[/size]
[/size][size=1.077em]"Our devices and services transformation is progressing," said boss Steve Ballmer in a statement. He added that Microsoft is launching a "wide range" of new products in the coming quarter.[/size]
[/size][size=1.077em]The report shed no light on who is to replace Mr Ballmer, who announced plans to retire within the next year.[/size]
[/size][size=1.077em]The company has released several new products this quarter, including an update to Windows 8, and recently bought the mobile phone unit of struggling Finnish giant Nokia.[/size]
[/size][size=1.077em]Shares rose 6% in after hours trading on the strong results[/size] [/size][/color]

[/size][size=1.077em]Profits of £3.75 billion is hardly a loss in anybody book, bar yours . Microsoft makes more profits in one year that SEGA entier worth has a corp . Keep the comedy gold coming [/size]
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[ROJM]

What is this ? I haven't even talk of consoles sales of the likes of Fable 2, Saints Row, Forza Red Dead redemption, Rock Band, Band Hero , blah blah blahshit

Those games you mentioned don't even sell as they use to and were hardly mid range titles at the time either...but keep dodging the question and spin it to your usual nonsense.

When you sell more copies at full price I don't think Capcom is too bothered . Monster Hunter IV sells more copies in one week than PSO II as sold to date .

Capcom are bothered. That's why the shareholders put the stock for sale. Keep harping on about Capcom's one trick pony which isn't enough to save them from takeover..lol

What the hell are you on about ? blah blah blah

No you tried playing the old IP card . Want more . Where the sequels to the likes of  World Wide Soccer, Story Of Thor 2, Comix Zone , Vectorman , Fighting Mega Mix , Dragon Force, Wonderboy, Burning Rangers , ClockworkKnight, Alex Kid, Ristarstar, Deep Fear, Panzer Dragoon Saga - There's loads more and not a DC title in sight .

No you are an idiot. You said where are the sequels to..and you list a bunch of DC games that didn't make enough money to warrant a sequel in the first place. Now you are backtracking yet again. You ALREADY LOST the argument by naming titles that didn't make much money. If anyone was going to take you seriously you'd mention the games that are more likely to get sequels that hasn't been around like SAKURA TAISEN. But you'd have to KNOW about games and the business to mention that.Anyone here can see EXACTLY what you said two to three posts back. You and idiots like you try to deflect any reasonable argument given to you by spinning it around, twisting peoples words or naming popular games in order to look good. This topic was going well until you started to troll it for the sake of it and ruin it for everyone else. It wasn't even about Sega until you decided to stick your head in. Then you wonder why i lose my cool.

 Now quite frankly, piss off(yes little man that is an insult) I don't have the time anymore..really i don't.

[George]

Honestly what is the appeal of Monster Hunter? I got Tri on Wii U cuz it was so cheap and played it for 6 mins. Shitty graphics, shitty combat, shitty animation. For a few seconds I was like "Is this a Dreamcast title?" The worse part? The small ass fucking text, no Wii U pad support. This is the big title at Capcom?