Resident evil Remake HD

[ROJM]

I think it's worth buying a game again in a few situations, it's not black and white.

I gladly bought Jet Set Radio on Steam because I can play it on my PC and every PC i'll own in the future. I don't always have my Dreamcast hooked up, and at the moment since I moved to a new country, I don't even have any of my consoles, but still have access to my Steam Library.

There's also other things to consider like more convenient controls, graphic enhancements (not applicable for this particular game I'll admit) and various other changes.

Yes but JSR is just a port and hasn't been milked to death. Capcom has a long long history of milking the same EXACT game for years and years and years. Streetfighter 2 is one example and so is Resident Evil.

[MadeManG74]

Yes but JSR is just a port and hasn't been milked to death. Capcom has a long long history of milking the same EXACT game for years and years and years. Streetfighter 2 is one example and so is Resident Evil.

Ah, I can see what you mean. I agree that Resident Evil is getting a bit long in the tooth, as I said this is a Re-Re-Release of the game basically. It's nice if you're one of the few who still hasn't played it I guess.

As for Street Fighter, if you mean things like Street Fighter IV, Super, Arcade Edition and now Ultra, that's actually something I like. I think you'll find most fighting game fans actually do like to get revisions (the quality of SFIV notwithstanding) as they are usually large overhauls in the balance and mechanics, with new characters or improvements that make a huge difference.

In the case of Ultra though, it was just lazily copy-pasting in characters and backgrounds from SFxT. I'm not sure what the balance changes were like, since I don't like SFIV as a fighting game.

[RegalSin]

Back then RE was unique as a game. In fact it was more like a movie then an game. It was the real deal. They only started remaking since the GCN was a hit. Which is healthy. It is interesting to play the Saturn games as well.

Street Fighter II series. Capcom basically would perfect, add characters and such. With the hack of SFII they had to compete with hackers as well ( who made a better game ). It was great because most people were limited to SNES and the Arcades. Everybody else had the Genesis game. Only few people knew other games. Once 3d and PSX came out. Virtua-fighter and things like that took stage.

Next was Rival Schools? I do not know why they stopped production of Rival Schools. In my opinion that Capcoms best moment. After that was an downward slide. The PS2 pretty much left them with Omusha and things like that.

If it was all 2d SFII was as perfect as you can get. SFIII and SFIII-Alpha were both jokes to this world. It was goofy, it had some kind of cult. It was where Dalkstalkers cut in and Donivan was the bad man. But he was blonde. That is how I feel about that instance.

Good they remake the game again. I hope it sells well.

[ROJM]

Ah, I can see what you mean. I agree that Resident Evil is getting a bit long in the tooth, as I said this is a Re-Re-Release of the game basically. It's nice if you're one of the few who still hasn't played it I guess.

As for Street Fighter, if you mean things like Street Fighter IV, Super, Arcade Edition and now Ultra, that's actually something I like. I think you'll find most fighting game fans actually do like to get revisions (the quality of SFIV notwithstanding) as they are usually large overhauls in the balance and mechanics, with new characters or improvements that make a huge difference.

In the case of Ultra though, it was just lazily copy-pasting in characters and backgrounds from SFxT. I'm not sure what the balance changes were like, since I don't like SFIV as a fighting game.

That's why i stopped playing Sf2 after the super SF2 game when i realized we weren't getting 3 anytime soon..and when that eventually did come out it was a disappointment. The alpha games i liked but that end up becoming a similar thing and the only thing i liked was when they brought out the Xmen Marvel superheroes versus games.

[RegalSin]

Yeah Super Street Fighter II ( the SNES/Genesis game ) were made for the X-band. That is while the game had an upgrade in graphics it was also an downgrade as well. Most likely made around the Genesis first.

Honestly SFII was great with the Championship edition but it was the turbo ( hack inspired ) that made it shine.

I love SFIITurbo. It was probably the best fun ever just to play.

The thing is this; when SFIII was out; how many arcades had the game their and was it a big deal anymore. That time people went to the consoles. That is why will never have a real IV, at all.

[George]

That's why i stopped playing Sf2 after the super SF2 game when i realized we weren't getting 3 anytime soon..and when that eventually did come out it was a disappointment. The alpha games i liked but that end up becoming a similar thing and the only thing i liked was when they brought out the Xmen Marvel superheroes versus games.

Lol what? Street Fighter III is the best Street Fighter ever. Third Strike is possibly my most played game. Now 4 just felt like a huge step backwards after 3.

[ROJM]

Lol what? Street Fighter III is the best Street Fighter ever. Third Strike is possibly my most played game. Now 4 just felt like a huge step backwards after 3.

You're kidding right? I'd say the second game was the pinnacle of the series,it may be 3 or 3rd strike for the hardcore fans of the series(which i'm at a loss to think why) but the second game was everything and more...a game that was close to perfection as you could get. Harmony of game play, the replay and addiction level, the characters and their animations it was such a well crafted game that had so much energy. Not many played 3 when it came out down my arcades but many chose to play the alpha games when they were brought out of course that's hardly scientific that the game wasn't good. I'm sure 3 was a solid SF game but I don't think you can dismiss SF2 for the game it was and the impact it made. Only a few great games can do that. While Sonic 2 or CD is regarded as either the best or pinnacle of the series in 2d(in my opinion for the whole series) the game wasn't Sonic 1 which was another example of "the perfect game". 

[RegalSin]

The pinicale of the entire series was Street Fighter vs X-men. After that everything went insane. In terms of SF itself the Alpha/Zero games was as good as it was ever going to get.

SFIII itself kinda went into that odd zone that made no sense. Unless you were into Tosigodeen ( something or another ). More cult bs, and this and that Millenium talk. That is what SF3 was. The new age.

By 2000 SNK took over the charts with the cross over to end all cross overs. With the best looking sprites that could make your eyes go wow too infinity.

[George]

You're kidding right? I'd say the second game was the pinnacle of the series,it may be 3 or 3rd strike for the hardcore fans of the series(which i'm at a loss to think why) but the second game was everything and more...a game that was close to perfection as you could get. Harmony of game play, the replay and addiction level, the characters and their animations it was such a well crafted game that had so much energy. Not many played 3 when it came out down my arcades but many chose to play the alpha games when they were brought out of course that's hardly scientific that the game wasn't good. I'm sure 3 was a solid SF game but I don't think you can dismiss SF2 for the game it was and the impact it made. Only a few great games can do that. While Sonic 2 or CD is regarded as either the best or pinnacle of the series in 2d(in my opinion for the whole series) the game wasn't Sonic 1 which was another example of "the perfect game". 

Street Fighter 2 is great, but doesn't hold a light to the advancements created in 3rd Strike. IV gimped it down and slowed the game somewhat in favor of being more SF2 friendly.

[ROJM]

Street Fighter 2 is great, but doesn't hold a light to the advancements created in 3rd Strike. IV gimped it down and slowed the game somewhat in favor of being more SF2 friendly.

Neither does SONIC compared to the advancements made in other titles. That isn't the point. SF2 had the perfect combination that made  it a game everyone had to play. From hardcore gamers to people that don't play games that much. SF3 and most of the others didn't have that lighting in the bottle. Many people can't play 3rd strike or be bothered with it. Like i said SF2 is in that echelon as being the perfect game like other games from various companies managed to achieve that set the industry on fire and made people actually go to the arcades to play it.  In the series it may not be all that to the fan but that doesn't mean the games while technically better were the pinnacle of the series.

[MadeManG74]

SF2 vs SFIII is really a matter of preference I find.

Street Fighter III: Third Strike is considered almost universally by fighting game fans to be one of the finest fighters ever made, but at the same time there are a lot of aspects that mean people don't like it as much as SFII or other fighting games.

Main issues are:
Parry System: On paper a great idea, and one of the most loved aspects of the game, but also one of the most hated. Critics argue that it destroys zoning (fireballs) almost entirely, or that it creates a 'Guess and Win' meta-game where a single parry can turn the match. It also nullifies things like anti-airs sometimes with air-parries.
Unbalanced Roster: While Kuroda, the best 3S player in the world most likely, can beat people with low tier characters, almost every tournament for this game ever is Chun Li vs Chun Li. Sometimes you'll see Yun being used and even more rarely, Makoto. The game is terribly balanced and Chun Li just overshadows the entire cast.

Street Fighter 2 on the other hand, peaked in most people's eyes at Super Street Fighter II: Turbo (although many do enjoy Street Fighter 2: Hyper Fighting, and some even still prefer Champion's Edition). This game is really well respected for it's simplicity and emphasis on fundamentals. It too has problems though;
Balance and Counter-Picks: This game is also really unbalanced, but unlike Street Fighter III, it's all around counter picks. Characters have very lopsided match-ups and it can sometimes become a game of Scissors, Paper, Rock sometimes. Not to mention Old Sagat is almost bannable he's so good.
Technical things: The game has random damage output for some moves, and I believe the game skips frames of animation due to the turbo setting which can throw off things like reversal timing.

Overall, I think you'd be mad to dismiss either game for their quality, they are two of the most respected and important fighting games around. In terms of financial success, almost certainly SFII was more popular, I think SFIII was actually relatively unpopular at the time.

Marvel 2 was Capcom playing with MUGEN.


What were we talking about again? I think it was something to do with revisions of capcom games, basically I like it. I like seeing revisions to fighting games, they can always be improved. If they aren't people will usually go back to an older version or it'll get fixed again. I would love a KOFXIII Ultimate Match for example...

[George]

I think we where talking about how Resident Evil has been ported many times and we want a RE-Make type game done with Code Veronica.

[MadeManG74]

I think we where talking about how Resident Evil has been ported many times and we want a RE-Make type game done with Code Veronica.

I'm still waiting to know what this was all about:

[pirovash88]

I'm still waiting to know what this was all about:

I've never seen that before, what is that?

George, i want a RE2 REmake first, haha. =)

[MadeManG74]

^I'm in the dark as much as you are, I think someone found that on the official RE page as a teaser logo or something, then it was taken down by Capcom very quickly. There were rumours of a full REmake style for Code Veronica. They already ported the game on XBLA/PSN (is it on PC anywhere?).