I have a hankerin' for a new 3D Sonic.

[Sharky]

I agree, SEGA have sort of shot themselves in the foot by making so many variations of the Sonic formula, now its impossible to please everyone. But there are some things that MOST people enjoy... Which they can expand on.

I wrote an article about this a while back, some of you may remember:
http://segabits.com/blog/2014/11/07/opnion-what-modern-sonic-can-learn-from-classic-sonic/

[Berto]

Personally I love Sonic more as character than the game.
And oddly enough my three favorite Sonic games are the spin-offs  :

1. Sonic 3D Blast (the Genesis version, not the saturn version, I hate Saturn version's music)
2. Sonic Battle (GBA, bring back Emerl !!!)
3. Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (3DS, love the 12 hours story mode, how Mario chars interact with Sonic chars)

May be that's why I'm one of the few (along with Sheep) that could enjoy Sonic Boom.
Just think it as spin-off with another genre and playstyle.

That's mine. So.. What's yours 3 favorite Sonic games, guys? I'm curious.

[MadeManG74]

That's mine. So.. What's yours 3 favorite Sonic games, guys? I'm curious.

Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3+K

Also, Sonic Jam is the best compilation game ever made. EVER MADE.
The games were ports to Saturn, not emulation, and all the extras were phenomenal.

[Barry the Nomad]

Also, Sonic Jam is the best compilation game ever made. EVER MADE.

This is so damn true. It's the quintessential classic Sonic release. The original games play great, there are new modes, and the bonus history stuff is such an amazing time capsule.

[MadeManG74]

This is so damn true. It's the quintessential classic Sonic release. The original games play great, there are new modes, and the bonus history stuff is such an amazing time capsule.

Sonic 3D world on the disc was mind-blowing at the time too. Closest thing we got to a true 3D Sonic game on Saturn.

[Aki-at]

Sonic 3D world on the disc was mind-blowing at the time too. Closest thing we got to a true 3D Sonic game on Saturn.

I'd like to throw my hat in and say if they expanded on Sonic World forumla instead of the speedbooster gameplay for Sonic Adventure, we'd have had a 3D Sonic game that would have stood the test of time.

Really loved the design of that small world, so much to see and explore!

[MadeManG74]

^I agree, something about Sonic World just felt really 'right'. Sonic Adventure was great at the time, but looking at how it was long race tracks compared to Sonic World's more exploratory level it really was a different thing.

I guess even Christmas NiGHTS with Sonic was more of that kind of formula too.

[CrazyT]

I'd like to throw my hat in and say if they expanded on Sonic World forumla instead of the speedbooster gameplay for Sonic Adventure, we'd have had a 3D Sonic game that would have stood the test of time.

Really loved the design of that small world, so much to see and explore!

Was just gonna say the same. What could have been smh. I think its time for me to dust off my saturn now

[Aki-at]

^I agree, something about Sonic World just felt really 'right'. Sonic Adventure was great at the time, but looking at how it was long race tracks compared to Sonic World's more exploratory level it really was a different thing.

I guess even Christmas NiGHTS with Sonic was more of that kind of formula too.

Was just gonna say the same. What could have been smh. I think its time for me to dust off my saturn now

Yeah it's amazing really that they went from this to Sonic Adventure, I'd really be interested in knowing what caused such a drastic change in terms of level design.

[CrazyT]

Well at least we got this


Nah I cant mock the game too much as I really loved some aspects about it. But something about the game definitly feels like some sort of transitioning was taking place. You could still feel some of that old spice, but they essentially ended up wanting a sonic adventure 2.

[MadeManG74]

For anyone who's seen Sonic Extreme footage, was that more akin to Sonic World, or was it 'tracks' like Sonic Adventure?

Also, is it just me, or do Nintendo fans just find it impossible to 'get' Sonic? You know the ones I'm talking about, they never owned or played anything other than Nintendo consoles, then get Sonic on Virtual Console and said 'Yeah I don't really like it, I don't really get it'.

It's happened to me with two unrelated friends.


CrazyT: I actually LOVED Sonic Adventure when it first came out. I mean, it probably wasn't as good as the old games, but at the time it was amazing. The different playstyles and seemingly huge world to explore was so much fun. I feel like it changed directions, but the series also went downhill from there.


Don't tell me you weren't frothing at the mouth seeing this screenshot in 1998:

[Aki-at]

I've seen it alot Mang, there are loads of people who grew up on the NES/SNES that just do not get Sonic and call it a simple go right to win type of game. I think it balances out though, I know equally loads of SEGA fans on the Mega Drive who just don't get the classic Mario games because they find it linear and compact (I fall into that category myself, I'm not a big fan of classic Mario games bar the Wario Land games)

Also even though I was ragging on Sonic Adventure, I only meant it as in the game being able to stand the test of time. I don't get this revisionist history that says Sonic Adventure was always a bad game, it wasn't. When it launched in 1998 it was amazing and everything about it was state of the art and I loved it to pieces.

[CrazyT]

@Mang

Imagine having a dreamcast without a memory card and having to start the game over everytime, unnable to skip the cutscenes. Well that was me basically lol. And I loved it. But its also why that particular intro cutscene is printed in my head. Its funny because I still occasionally say em out loud for jokes to those who understand the references lol.

I absolutly adored and still adore the game. That picture you posted is also from my favourite stage, coicidently also one with the least speedboosters in the game. The good parts of sonic adventure(what i meant with old spice) encapture exactly what id want to see in a sonic game. But I think that ive become part of a minority in this.

I like a lot about sonic adventure but a legit 3d game in the old style like sonic jam would have been great to have before the "rebooting". It will always feel like we've missed something

[MadeManG74]

Haha, I didn't have a memory card for the first week or so either!
Sega botched the Australian launch and all the first party games were a week late, ditto all the accessories. I did end up buying a third party memory card, but it wasn't with the console, so I did have a while where I had to start the game each time I turned the system on.

I've been watching an LP of Sonic Adventure, and a lot of the commentary is 'lol this game is so bad' but every now and then they interject with 'At the time this was phenomenal' or 'this holds up okay'.

And everyone bashes Big the Cat, but I had fun with those fishing segments. I can understand people not enjoying it, but I actually really liked the crazy variations in gameplay.

[MadeManG74]

I've seen it alot Mang, there are loads of people who grew up on the NES/SNES that just do not get Sonic and call it a simple go right to win type of game. I think it balances out though, I know equally loads of SEGA fans on the Mega Drive who just don't get the classic Mario games because they find it linear and compact (I fall into that category myself, I'm not a big fan of classic Mario games bar the Wario Land games)

Also even though I was ragging on Sonic Adventure, I only meant it as in the game being able to stand the test of time. I don't get this revisionist history that says Sonic Adventure was always a bad game, it wasn't. When it launched in 1998 it was amazing and everything about it was state of the art and I loved it to pieces.

Meant to mention this too. It's interesting, I've never really played a Mario game start to finish apart from NSMB on DS, which I actually quite enjoyed.

I should try the older ones one day and see if I fall into the same pattern.