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Offline Tad

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #90 on: July 09, 2015, 01:20:15 am »
I don't have a problem with SEGA going after the mobile market, It's just a market I have no interest in so I won't be playing their games on it. It seems to me though, that they're going to have less teams working on console/ PC games, but better quality. If so, I'm fine with that.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #91 on: July 09, 2015, 04:11:49 am »
https://www.facebook.com/haruki.satomi/friends?pnref=lhc

He is facebooked with a bunch of Sega people it seems, including ex Sega Yuji Naka and Yu Suzuki
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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #92 on: July 09, 2015, 04:47:37 am »
There is, at the very least a new Sonic game in the works. Just chill out.

Yep game is going to be mad awesome, serious development cycle and Sonic Team reigned in.

It's great the Playstation 4 is keeping consoles relevant,  cause both the Xbox One and Wii U are bringing the side down. Saying that the PC market has become a worthwhile market for Sonic too (500,000 sales for Sonic Generations there.) so the future was always bright for the franchise.

Honestly I think "cult following" might even be too generous, I'd actually nearly forgotten that it existed until it was brought up here. I think Vanquish fits far more in with the "cult following" label. I'm about 90% sure that the announcement of a Vanquish sequel would drum up far more excitement than a BD sequel, though I could be wrong.

Ben I don't think you know what cult following is if you think it matters on the size of the fanbase haha.

(Besides you didn't like the game so it's understandable why you forgot it existed.)

Also he's talking about 10 years plus of games, Lost World and Sonic 06 exist in that time frame alone.

I don't have a problem with SEGA going after the mobile market, It's just a market I have no interest in so I won't be playing their games on it. It seems to me though, that they're going to have less teams working on console/ PC games, but better quality. If so, I'm fine with that.

The thing people always overlook when they talk about teams is that they want Overworks,  Hitmaker et all to return when in this day and age that's impossible. Most of these dev teams were about 50 people and now one Sonic or Yakuza game takes up between 80 to 150+ staff. So its only natural they have less team.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #93 on: July 09, 2015, 04:48:40 am »
https://www.facebook.com/haruki.satomi/friends?pnref=lhc

He is facebooked with a bunch of Sega people it seems, including ex Sega Yuji Naka and Yu Suzuki

Reminds me of that crazy rumour Storm said that SEGA was bought up by Satomi because his son was a massive fanboy haha.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #94 on: July 09, 2015, 04:55:46 am »
Satomi JR didn't make the comments, it was SR.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2015, 05:01:31 am »
Satomi JR didn't make the comments, it was SR.

Apparently it was Jr, it's hard to tell since I can't find the original Famitsu interview. I'm sure they'd be a lot more interesting information in it.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2015, 07:41:19 am »
If only STORM was here, he could give us all the juicy details from Famitsu.
 
So were those "low-quality games" then?


I have to say I'm totally unfamiliar with that series so I have no idea how it's been received.

Honestly I think "cult following" might even be too generous, I'd actually nearly forgotten that it existed until it was brought up here. I think Vanquish fits far more in with the "cult following" label. I'm about 90% sure that the announcement of a Vanquish sequel would drum up far more excitement than a BD sequel, though I could be wrong.




definitely not low quality, the series has a hardcore following because it can get so extreme in it's gameplay.

watch this guys hands fly near the end. guy can't be human.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7wbY64JSOs
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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2015, 08:31:13 am »
O_O It was Satomi Son?!? Man, This guy has a lot be respected. He made Networks from the grounds, revive "the interest" of creating strong ideas for Arcade developers who became mobile devs also and more. Maybe he has more ideas to come. Maybe a Visionary Filosofy for the manGs ;) .

I see what you did there, I'm expecting something Very Fantastic in the next year or two. I have no doubt they have something up their sleeve. I just hope beyond hope that they don't screw it up like some other developers I could mention.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2015, 08:41:20 am »
You mean you hope there's a Sonic game coming and lets hope SEGA doesn't tie it with Nintendo again. And forget about Sonic , all the other Teams should be on the PS4 too. SEGA Japan have zero tech and almost zero presence on the consoles and really need to up their game .

Not so long ago I was told by some here that consoles are dead , how times change and lets hope the Sonic cycle does too

I still think Consoles are a shrinking market, the costs for development vs the potential profits and the risk are going to scare a lot of people away. It's much better for Sega to focus on Mobiles and PC, as much as I abhor mobile phone gaming.

I also always said that you still need that presence to keep some kind of relevance though. You can't just make Mobile phone games without something strong to back up the brand. EG; Sonic may make more money from mobile phones, but he'll still need a big release to keep the character relevant every now and again.

Yep game is going to be mad awesome, serious development cycle and Sonic Team reigned in.

I still don't share the enthusiasm, I'm expecting a moderately good game at the very best. It would be amazing to be proven wrong and fall in love with the game though.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2015, 08:49:41 am »
I kind of have to agree about consoles. It seems like now more then ever it's a case of building for PC then porting to console. Even games like MGS are turning up on PC's too.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2015, 10:37:36 am »
I still don't share the enthusiasm, I'm expecting a moderately good game at the very best. It would be amazing to be proven wrong and fall in love with the game though.

I understand that you got bored of Colours and are indifferent to Generations. Though I share your sentiment on the first, I actually liked the latter so if it's more of the same I can get behind the project.

There's no doubt though that they are listening and slowly fixing the series, we've gone from grimdark, multi character gameplay, straight forward level design and ridiculously fast gameplay to family friendly, single character, multipathed and boostly gameplay. If they are serious about taking their time then I think whatever they're making should be enjoyable to platformer fans.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2015, 10:40:33 am »
I understand that you got bored of Colours and are indifferent to Generations. Though I share your sentiment on the first, I actually liked the latter so if it's more of the same I can get behind the project.

There's no doubt though that they are listening and slowly fixing the series, we've gone from grimdark, multi character gameplay, straight forward level design and ridiculously fast gameplay to family friendly, single character, multipathed and boostly gameplay. If they are serious about taking their time then I think whatever they're making should be enjoyable to platformer fans.

I'm sure it'll be decent, but I think they've changed Sonic and we'll never quite get the lofty highs of the originals.
Like I said, I purposely keep my expectations very low so I can be surprised.

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2015, 10:49:25 am »
I'm sure it'll be decent, but I think they've changed Sonic and we'll never quite get the lofty highs of the originals.
Like I said, I purposely keep my expectations very low so I can be surprised.

I like Sonic Generations more than Sonic CD :p

Besides, it's more of a question of what platformers are better than the original 4 and it's no shame not being able to match them. That being said Classic Sonic has some genuinely great level designs in Generations (And I do like some of Modern Sonic's stages too)

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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #103 on: July 09, 2015, 10:51:57 am »
The reason I dropped the playthrough was legitimate, my sister is staying with me for three weeks and I'm going to be doing touristy stuff the whole time. I haven't been able to play any games at all for a week.

The fact that I wasn't enjoying the game much at that stage was a happy coincidence.

I think I just was in a bad state to enjoy the game when I was playing. I intend to re-visit it at some point and hopefully enjoy it.

I know dude, it's cool. I'll be curious to see what you're impressions are when you give it another go.

On this subject though. Never played BD, i have a copy though, been sealed along side Vanquish for years now..
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Re: Hajime Satomi apologizes for low quality games
« Reply #104 on: July 09, 2015, 10:54:56 am »
I like Sonic Generations more than Sonic CD :p

Besides, it's more of a question of what platformers are better than the original 4 and it's no shame not being able to match them. That being said Classic Sonic has some genuinely great level designs in Generations (And I do like some of Modern Sonic's stages too)

I haven't played Sonic CD.

As I said, Sonic Generations wasn't bad, it just didn't pull me all that much. I think there were more problems with the overall game than just the pure levels and gameplay, which I hope they can carry over and improve.

Platformers better than the originals? Toughie. I adored the new Rayman games, but I don't think I could say they are better. I know what you mean, they were just near perfect games IMO.
I'll try to give Sonic Gens another try before the new one comes out (It sucks having zero gaming time for the time being).


I know dude, it's cool. I'll be curious to see what you're impressions are when you give it another go.

On this subject though. Never played BD, i have a copy though, been sealed along side Vanquish for years now..
Fucking play Vanquish! It's so good!


Binary Domain you should play too. I'm curious to see which side of the fence you fall on.