Sega will sell Index on December 1st

[FlareHabanero]

Wow. So wait. Atlus wont be under SEGA anymore?

Atlus is still staying.

[CrazyT]

Atlus is still staying.

Ha thanks. I was almost surprised not reading anything about it anywhere, but this explains it.

[Trippled]

Looks like I was right:

https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pr/corp/group/list.html

Sega Sammy has erased Index from its group.

[JRcade19]

I have a feeling Mr. Sega/Orbi/Ringedge2010/Zachary morris may be returning to is based on some posted content here and over on the rumors thread.

The stuff being spouted is ghastly familiar in structure.

[EnternalHope]

I have a feeling Mr. Sega/Orbi/Ringedge2010/Zachary morris may be returning to is based on some posted content here and over on the rumors thread.

The stuff being spouted is ghastly familiar in structure.

I'm not Zach Morrris. I haven't heard from him in a few years. Stop with the accusations please.

Wow. So wait. Atlus wont be under SEGA anymore?

No. It's STILL a division of Sega Games,Ltd.When SEGASammy brought Atlus, they separated its parent company Index from Atlus.

[EnternalHope]

You are absolutely delusional... Any end of year report will tell you the exact opposite.

If the Resort business is making money it has only just started because last time I checked it was still in the construction phase and SEGA were pouring money INTO it... And to say the Arcade industry is where SEGA are making the most? You're living in a fucking dream world...

Joypolis has been in existence since 1994.(It just got expanded outside of Japan) You've probably never even heard of Sega Republic in Dubai.


http://www.segarepublic.com/en/


No, you haven't. Its been in Operation since 2008.


SEGA's theme park business is not new. They've been running Theme Parks since the 90s.


Pheonix Resort, that's been in operation for over 5 years.


And the Arcade Amusement business. Yes, its because its their core business.(They FOUNDATION of Sega) Of COURSE its more profitable. They STILL have Amusement Centers in Operation and last I checked, all of their Theme Parks have Arcade machines.


Sega is NOT just games.

[Trippled]

Joypolis is generally seen as an arcade.

[EnternalHope]

Joypolis is generally seen as an arcade.

It's a Theme Park/Arcade Combo. For 1994, it was beyond anything anyone had ever seen in the Amusement Industry especially in the 1990s!


http://tokyo-joypolis.com/language/english/


SEGA seriously needs to bring the chain to the States.(Why the hell they didn't do this during the late 1990s or 2000s instead of that CRAPPY Game Works chain that killed Dreamcast is beyond me.)

[Nameless 24]

EternalHope, can you predict when this supposed split will happen?


Pretty curious as to what this will mean if the Pachinko Business really is losing value in Japan.

[Sharky]

Joypolis has been in existence since 1994.(It just got expanded outside of Japan) You've probably never even heard of Sega Republic in Dubai.

No, you haven't. Its been in Operation since 2008.

Another baseless assumption... Now about other forum members. I'm fairly sure everybody on this forum has heard of SEGA Republic. This 'holier than thou, SEGA Fan' attitude towards other forum members really stinks.

And the Arcade Amusement business. Yes, its because its their core business.(They FOUNDATION of Sega) Of COURSE its more profitable. They STILL have Amusement Centers in Operation and last I checked, all of their Theme Parks have Arcade machines.

You seriously need to go and look at some of SEGA's recent financial reports, the Arcade division isn't a huge earner, makes regular losses and popularity is in decline... This isn't up for debate it's fact.

Nintendo's core business was once toys and board games... Things change.

[EnternalHope]

EternalHope, can you predict when this supposed split will happen?


Pretty curious as to what this will mean if the Pachinko Business really is losing value in Japan.

Nobody can be for sure when. But based on the direction of the group especially the SEGA Holdings side, I project in the next 2-3 years.


Even in the domestic side, Sega's home consumer games business is starting to decline. Blade Arcus just flopped, and pretty much their entire 2014 lineup underperformed, EVERYWHERE. It makes perfect sense why Sega Networks is now getting more resources and attention especially from investors.
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/technology/sega-to-invest-in-local-start-up-gogame


Regarding the Panchinko business,it peaked during the 70s, and a decade ago it had been a parts and service style industry, but since 2006, it started to have a rollercoaster operating wave, where it would often fluctuate between high profit or massive operating losses per year. This is pretty much why in 2010 Satomi absorbed Sammy into  Kabushiki Kaisha Sega and dissolved pretty much all of Sammy's divisions and subsidiaries. It would allow the group to gain a much more solid ROE,since the more profitable side of the group was SEGA.


Regarding its future, I don't see it existing in 10 years(In 2014, Sega Sammy ended its decade long investment deal and contract with Rodeo who was the lead shareholder and investor in Sammy's Panchinko business) and I certainly see SEGA replacing it with 2 operating methods: Online Mircotransactions through its Sammy Networks division,and replacing most of if not all Panchino Slots with simple Casino Slot Machines and even Vending Machines with SEGA expanding and building and manufacturing FAR more Redemption Machines,Ticket Dispensers and UFO Prize Machines.


All of these operating methods are not only far more profitable,broad,and cheaper to do. They have a mass Amusement market.