Motion Control Wars

[fluffymoochicken]

ScrewAttack's Impressions of Kinect at PAX 2010:

http://screwattack.com/videos/PAX-2010- ... mpressions

Warning: They are very, very blunt about their feelings.

[Happy Cat]

Andriasang doesn't like kinect either

said they got to play sonic free riders and that it was buggy

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/0 ... pressions/

[Sega Uranus]

Sonic Team games being buggy, NO WAY! NO WAY? NO WAY! NO WAY?

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[George]

Hardware is only as good as its software.

[Barry the Nomad]

Project Draco makes me very happy I pre-ordered Kinect. Before I was buying it for Child of Eden and the hope of more good games down the road, but now I'm actually excited for a kinect game! If only SEGA was backing this, then it could be a Dragoon game. Ah well, I'm sure it will be just like any other PD plot and take place years apart from the other games. Plus, Panzer Dragoon and Project Draco can both be called PD games

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[fluffymoochicken]

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It's a tragedy that such a neat idea has to be ruined by motion control exclusivity. =(

[Barry the Nomad]

Panzer Dragoon has been implemented four times on two consoles already, so the idea has been done. Orta pretty much perfected the classic gameplay style. If anything, motion controls will bring something new to the table aside from a graphical upgrade.

[fluffymoochicken]

Panzer Dragoon has been implemented four times on two consoles already, so the idea has been done. Orta pretty much perfected the classic gameplay style. If anything, motion controls will bring something new to the table aside from a graphical upgrade.

People want to play a new game, but what they don't want is a major step backwards - which seems to be what this game has doomed itself to being, due to its Kinect exclusivity.

Of course, feel free to convince yourself that what PD really needed was to lose control precision and gain lots of arm waving. I'd imagine that most of us aren't quite as pleased.

[George]

Project Darco is going to be ruined by being niche on a mainstream add-on with lower userbase. Basically, Phantom Dust didn't sell well on 24 million consoles. I don't expect Kinect to sell over 10 million (even that is a stretch), the game's success is being 'killed off' by many factors.

If the game was compatible, we would have another story. This is the type of game that needs as many 'potential buyers' as possible. Imagine if Panzer Dragoon Orta was released to be played ONLY with some new add on on xbox? How badly would it have failed?

[Sega Uranus]

I think Panzer Dragoon would work really well with motion controls personally. In fact, I think even the basic nunchuck and Wiimote combo could improve something like Orta. Would be awesome to move your dragon in a different direction you are aiming in, for instance.

[fluffymoochicken]

If the game was compatible, we would have another story. This is the type of game that needs as many 'potential buyers' as possible. Imagine if Panzer Dragoon Orta was released to be played ONLY with some new add on on xbox? How badly would it have failed?

I know, right? Playing with Kinect should be optional, not mandatory. Sad to say, but unless someone I know personally buys a Kinect, I'm going to have to skip this game.

I think Panzer Dragoon would work really well with motion controls personally. In fact, I think even the basic nunchuck and Wiimote combo could improve something like Orta. Would be awesome to move your dragon in a different direction you are aiming in, for instance.

Yeah, it's just too bad that the Kinect doesn't have a pointing device or buttons. =|

[George]

I think Panzer Dragoon would work really well with motion controls personally. In fact, I think even the basic nunchuck and Wiimote combo could improve something like Orta. Would be awesome to move your dragon in a different direction you are aiming in, for instance.

I think it would work, but the difference between Wii and Kinect is that Wii has 50 million plus units sold, Kinect has 0.

Not saying it wouldn't work with motion controls, just saying it would be more beneficial to the title if it was optional play on Kinect, not forced. See: Dead Space 2, SOCOM 4 and Killzone 3.

[Team Andromeda]

Project Darco is going to be ruined by being niche on a mainstream add-on with lower userbase. Basically, Phantom Dust didn't sell well on 24 million consoles. I don't expect Kinect to sell over 10 million (even that is a stretch), the game's success is being 'killed off' by many factors.

Dear God, That's such a bit of Fanboy talk. How well did the niche games that was ICO sell onthe mainstream PS2 , did it sell over 100 million copies , I'm sure it didn't

Stop being so anti 360 and MS George , its getting rather silly now


The worst part is that isn't just that it's being made for Natal. But more so that SEGA ,  Yukio Futatsugi and Land Ho (made up of Ex Panzer staff) aren't all working on a full on next gen sequel to Panzer Dragoon for both the 360 and PS3


To me a game like Phantom Dust would be more suited  to Natal

[Orta]

Project Draco makes me very happy I pre-ordered Kinect. Before I was buying it for Child of Eden and the hope of more good games down the road, but now I'm actually excited for a kinect game! If only SEGA was backing this, then it could be a Dragoon game. Ah well, I'm sure it will be just like any other PD plot and take place years apart from the other games. Plus, Panzer Dragoon and Project Draco can both be called PD games

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Wow, the music is absolutely wonderful. Please, please, make it so we don't have to buy the add-on. Add-ons are things from the past. Remember 32X.

[George]

Project Darco is going to be ruined by being niche on a mainstream add-on with lower userbase. Basically, Phantom Dust didn't sell well on 24 million consoles. I don't expect Kinect to sell over 10 million (even that is a stretch), the game's success is being 'killed off' by many factors.

Dear God, That's such a bit of Fanboy talk. How well did the niche games that was ICO sell onthe mainstream PS2 , did it sell over 100 million copies , I'm sure it didn't

Stop being so anti 360 and MS George , its getting rather silly now


The worst part is that isn't just that it's being made for Natal. But more so that SEGA ,  Yukio Futatsugi and Land Ho (made up of Ex Panzer staff) aren't all working on a full on next gen sequel to Panzer Dragoon for both the 360 and PS3


To me a game like Phantom Dust would be more suited  to Natal

No it didn't sell 100 million units, but it sold better than Phantom Dust. It does not take a genius to know that a higher number of potential owners could mean better sales. ICO was not really advertised and SOC was a cult hit.

Nothing I said was anti '360' at all, so I don't know where your accusations are coming from. If anything, i'm PRO 360, I said it should offer both 360 traditional controls and Kinect. It offers an experience to more people. How is this Anti 360?

I don't know how a person, like you, would think Phantom Dust and Project Darco is good for Natal. This is how Natal is being advertise, how do the games fit into the equation?
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Sorry that I think logically. I would have said the same thing if the game was MOVE only.