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Title: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Gagaman on December 29, 2012, 03:54:36 am
...on January the 11th. Or for some reason in my case, it just arrived today!

(http://i.imgur.com/fIbUV.jpg)

I pre ordered it from Zavvi a while back because it was only £15 there, and i got a dispatched e-mail just before Christmas and just assumed they sent that e-mail by mistake but nope, here it is!

Just curious if anyone else has got the game early like this. Either way nice to just about get this game in 2012 after all! Also I assume this will let me play online with Japanese players? Otherwise there won't be many online ahaha.
Title: Re: So Anarchy Reigns is finally releasing in the west..
Post by: Barry the Nomad on December 29, 2012, 08:31:42 am
Haha! That's awesome, Gagaman! I love it when a shipment goofs up with positive results (remember the free copies of the French History of Sonic book?). How is the game? Does it have a fun single player mode? Does Bayonetta have her own story mode or is she just a character in multiplayer?
Title: Re: So Anarchy Reigns is finally releasing in the west..
Post by: Grant360 on December 29, 2012, 08:53:14 am
Exactly the same with me. Pre-ordered 360 version, wasnt expecting till mid Jan. Got email pre christmas. Arrived today...

When is this officially released?
Title: Re: So Anarchy Reigns is finally releasing in the west..
Post by: max_cady on December 30, 2012, 09:56:58 am
You lucky bastard. I ordered Max Payne 3 online through Zavvi.com on November 30th and I still have no idea when it's coming.

I did pre-order Anarchy Reigns through Sendit.com (another one from TheHut.com group) and I got an e-mail in which they told me it got dispatched immediately after Christmas day, which was kinda odd.

The game's supossed to be out on January 8th, 2013. Though stranger things have happened... My order of Resident Evil 6 arrived before launch day.
Title: Re: So Anarchy Reigns is finally releasing in the west..
Post by: MadeManG74 on December 30, 2012, 01:47:07 pm
I wonder if Anarchy Reigns just doesn't have an enforced release date? Most games do, but for a relatively minor title like AR that has already been out in other regions they might just adopt a 'Sell when you recieve it' policy. Jan 8th might have just been a 'guaranteed no later than' date for consumers?

I should check next time I'm at a local shop.
Title: Re: So Anarchy Reigns is finally releasing in the west..
Post by: Gagaman on December 31, 2012, 01:26:16 pm
How is the game? Does it have a fun single player mode? Does Bayonetta have her own story mode or is she just a character in multiplayer?
Haven't played a whole lot of it yet, but only two characters have a story mode, Bayonetta is just for multiplayer. Only has online multiplayer as well, no local it seems.

Not sure what to think of it so far. The combat is not even close to as good as in Bayonetta sadly, seems a bit clunky, but I dunno, I need to play it with more characters first.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 08, 2013, 03:49:30 pm
Making this the general discussion. It's out in the US! Some over in the UK already have it. So, who picked it up? I sure as hell did! Can't wait to play it tonight.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Kori-Maru on January 08, 2013, 03:53:57 pm
I still getting it on 360 but I couldn't reserve it since I had a flu. What's story mode like?
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Randroid on January 08, 2013, 04:22:57 pm
I still getting it on 360 but I couldn't reserve it since I had a flu. What's story mode like?

It's not bad at all. They try to force in some tear-jerker scenes that look ridiculous when juxtaposed with the look of the characters, but if you don't take it seriously, it's great fun. A lot of battles against creative NPCs. Not just the selectable characters (which was what I was expecting).

In many ways this is Madworld 2, or Madworld redone, I haven't quite figured it out yet.

Without ruining anything, I can say that you're basically left in an arena where waves of baddies attack you. You kill them for points. Collect enough of them and a mission marker will appear in the arena. Then you complete the mission to advance the plot and there are a set number of missions per arena. I've only completed two arenas so far.

The real fun though, is online. That's where it separates itself from Madworld and is a completely unique game.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: thearcticsea on January 08, 2013, 05:47:30 pm
Any info on trophies? Single player and multiplayer trophies? Fun to get?
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Shigs on January 08, 2013, 09:23:10 pm
Everyone on NeoGAF and myself have noticed that the Bayonetta codes are not working. There is a message on my reciept that the codes may not go live until 4PM Pacific. Is that tomorrow?
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 08, 2013, 11:43:12 pm
Out tomorrow in Aus, I'll probably pick it up and have a go.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 11, 2013, 05:39:02 am
Unskippable cut-scenes? Worst Platinum Games title ever.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 11, 2013, 02:45:45 pm
Okay, for real this game is utter garbage. I'm returning it tomorrow if I can be arsed.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 11, 2013, 02:49:01 pm
haha! wooow! you hate it? I really enjoyed the few hours I've spent with it and look forward to playing it more this weekend.

Then again, you are more into fighting games then I am, so maybe thats it? I'll admit it's a bit of a button masher, but then again I like to mash.

Explain your hatred, Jedi.

Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Randroid on January 11, 2013, 04:13:36 pm
Okay, for real this game is utter garbage. I'm returning it tomorrow if I can be arsed.

It's no VF, that's for sure, but if you've ever played MadWorld then you shouldn't be surprised. 
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 11, 2013, 04:43:02 pm
I think you guys are getting the wrong idea about why I dislike it. I was never expecting it to be a 'fighting game' per se, like VF or KOF et. al.

After doing a bit of research, I think I might try it again on Normal mode. I started on Hard mode and found the single player to just be an endless grind fest to earn points so I can get to another mission. I found out that generally if you get a good rating (Gold/Plat) you don't need to grind, which would be fixed by playing on an easier difficulty.

The un-skippable cut-scenes are apparently skippable if you've seen them once, although that doesn't explain the smaller ones like in the second free mission where you have to watch the bar bot over and over.

But I think the biggest issue I have is the problem I predicted from when it was first announced. The game is heavily focused around multiplayer, but is also a pretty niche concept. This is a lethal combination because to have the most fun you need to play online, but when you head online it's a wasteland. It took me ages just to find enough people to start a match and even then it was the biggest lag fest ever and nearly unplayable because we had to scrape together players from all over the world. And this is OPENING WEEKEND. I just don't see this game surviving long at all, especially in Aus with it's poor internet infrastructure and relatively low number of players.

The single player alone doesn't seem compelling enough to warrant hanging onto it, it's nowhere near as fun as Bayonetta, Vanquish or even Madworld was, it was clearly made with online play in mind. And no split screen!? I can't even play with friends offline :/
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Ben on January 12, 2013, 11:35:20 pm
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And this is OPENING WEEKEND. I just don't see this game surviving long at all, especially in Aus with it's poor internet infrastructure and relatively low number of players.

Well, opening weekend for us.....it came out in Japan ages ago. This was Sega fucking up, of course, by delaying what was meant to be a worldwide release.

Anyway. My thoughts thusfar are that I'm fairly unimpressed with the single player mode. The combat seems fun and the music's cool, and I actually do like the visuals. Problem is, the whole "run around aimlessly hacking away to unlock the next mission" just seems so bland and sort of thoughtless.

Was hoping more for Power Stone....this isn't Power Stone, lol.

I dunno. At least MadWorld's levels were structured and well-paced. They should have done a similar thing here for the single player.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: SpeedyBlueDude on January 13, 2013, 12:11:35 am
Neogaf lead me to believe this was a wrestling game. It's not. : (

I'll still probably end up picking it up.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: semmie on January 13, 2013, 02:38:19 am
I think you guys are getting the wrong idea about why I dislike it. I was never expecting it to be a 'fighting game' per se, like VF or KOF et. al.

After doing a bit of research, I think I might try it again on Normal mode. I started on Hard mode and found the single player to just be an endless grind fest to earn points so I can get to another mission. I found out that generally if you get a good rating (Gold/Plat) you don't need to grind, which would be fixed by playing on an easier difficulty.

The un-skippable cut-scenes are apparently skippable if you've seen them once, although that doesn't explain the smaller ones like in the second free mission where you have to watch the bar bot over and over.

But I think the biggest issue I have is the problem I predicted from when it was first announced. The game is heavily focused around multiplayer, but is also a pretty niche concept. This is a lethal combination because to have the most fun you need to play online, but when you head online it's a wasteland. It took me ages just to find enough people to start a match and even then it was the biggest lag fest ever and nearly unplayable because we had to scrape together players from all over the world. And this is OPENING WEEKEND. I just don't see this game surviving long at all, especially in Aus with it's poor internet infrastructure and relatively low number of players.

The single player alone doesn't seem compelling enough to warrant hanging onto it, it's nowhere near as fun as Bayonetta, Vanquish or even Madworld was, it was clearly made with online play in mind. And no split screen!? I can't even play with friends offline :/

i didnt get you wrong. i like t depending the character. but in overall its kind of the same third person feeling we had over and over again. im not dissing the game entirely cause i enjoy it. and i love the cult like theme. i was sucked into the game since the press start screen. when the dude was eating like he never ate it waas funny. then after i played the tutorial. i officialy started playing.

its a good game so lets start with that. and it does lnow how to be different from the others.
but if you ask me an honest fusion of games. then this game is basically as follows.

its a madworld game, with the craziness of no more heroes, with the background of a crazy cultive scifi movie.

and after all that its a good game.

but then the dislike.
when you play the game it wont feel like for example when you played vanquish. thats unfair me saying that. but i hope you understand that it doesnt really feel like:
oh wow fucking game i have to play it back to back oh yeah it makes me addicted.
2.the game is a third person view game and her physics are to familiar. sometimes i tend to believe that it has a god of war camera view but that is not a precise comparison cause god of war is more of the prince of persia view.
so playing this doesnt make you look up to the game. it deserves an average 7 out of 10 for sure.
if you play vanquish you will be like wtf and then after you play binairy domain ull be like ok its a lesser good game then vanquish but its allright.

and then the crucial:
when you play anarchy reign after playing all these games. and lets add up non sega games such as dead space  mass effect. or yeah bayonetta sega game. let us say that some of you played all those similair games in an abstract point of view where only the physics and polygons and puzzles in the games are noticed.

then this game my sega fellow isnt really that of a reason to like.

but personally i like and dislike it. and thats why i play it for some time and stop. i even talk to my wife while playing it. i didnt have that with vanquish i was dragged into it.

i cant really explain myself that well in english. but i hope this serves the load
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Trippled on January 13, 2013, 06:48:42 am
i even talk to my wife while playing it.

huh.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: CrazyT on January 13, 2013, 08:46:16 am
I think he means that it doesnt require his full attention and effort.

Anyway the game has got its first review from IGN.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/11/anarchy-reigns-review
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: semmie on January 13, 2013, 08:56:30 am
I think he means that it doesnt require his full attention and effort.

Anyway the game has got its first review from IGN.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/11/anarchy-reigns-review

in the review preview it says that it is properly priced. and i agree with that. and that is why i gave it the 7 out of 10.

30 dollars
in euro
23 euro

its a fine game for that price
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: CrazyT on January 13, 2013, 10:25:42 am
To be honest, I don't have any real opinion about the game yet. It looks to control like mad world, with more characters and online features. All I do know is that platinum games usually makes high quality games and so far this seems like the first game that has scored this poorly. 
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: thearcticsea on January 13, 2013, 10:44:29 am
To me, this game was never a good idea.

It was, again to me(!), the same old Platinum Games offering of a redundant game in a tired genre and relying on their personality pedigree to sell it to fans.

A brawler? A Beat-em-up? I think I did this in Battletoads, Double Dragon, Turtles in Time, Streets of Rage, Golden Ax, Streets of Rage 2, Final Fight, Spikeout, Fighting Force, Dynasty Warriors, Streets of Rage 3, God Hand, Devil May Cry, Spiderman, X-Men, Fighting Force 2, Battletoads and Double Dragon, Xmen Arcade, The Simpsons Arcade Game, Final Fight 2, Guardian Heroes, DYnamite Cop, Zombie Revenge, TMNT Hyperstone Heist, Viewtiful Joe, The Bouncer, Die Hard Arcade, and Kenka Bancho.

I think the genres pretty much played out.

I know this opinion has proven to be unpopular, but Platinum Games is all show, no go.



Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2013, 11:46:29 am
I think they truly delivered with Vanquish, I thought that game was incredible and definitely an experience loaded with substance, not just "show."

This game though in single player (haven't played online multiplayer yet, no Live at the moment) is off to a rocky start, I hope I can will myself to play it more. Controls seem fairly complicated and even after that long tutorial I feel like I've forgotten how to do most of the techniques and almost can't be bothered to re-do it.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Randroid on January 13, 2013, 04:13:49 pm
I have to say this game is really growing on me. Been playing it quite a bit since I got a few friends that bought it now. 

There's a moment after a certain amount of online play where everything suddenly starts to click. I'm not getting totally schooled online any more which I honestly thought would never happen.

I say if you like everything about the game but are getting frustrated by the online play, give it its time and you'll find it rewarding. It's seriously a matter of practice.

 
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: loempiavreter on January 13, 2013, 04:52:39 pm
To me, this game was never a good idea.

It was, again to me(!), the same old Platinum Games offering of a redundant game in a tired genre and relying on their personality pedigree to sell it to fans.

A brawler? A Beat-em-up? I think I did this in Battletoads, Double Dragon, Turtles in Time, Streets of Rage, Golden Ax, Streets of Rage 2, Final Fight, Spikeout, Fighting Force, Dynasty Warriors, Streets of Rage 3, God Hand, Devil May Cry, Spiderman, X-Men, Fighting Force 2, Battletoads and Double Dragon, Xmen Arcade, The Simpsons Arcade Game, Final Fight 2, Guardian Heroes, DYnamite Cop, Zombie Revenge, TMNT Hyperstone Heist, Viewtiful Joe, The Bouncer, Die Hard Arcade, and Kenka Bancho

And what about RPG's or FPS... Just because you are tired of beat'em ups or belt scroll games doesn't mean everyone is, fuck i pray every day that people still release Belt scroll/beat'em ups, lightgun games, run & gun titles and action platformers... that they don't forget about US Instead of trying to chase for that impossible number of sales just because they want to get the sales Call of Duty or Elder Scrolls had.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 13, 2013, 05:23:05 pm
I'm loving Anarchy Reigns because it is an excellent pick up and play for as short or as long as you want. I love games like that. Reminds me a lot like Jet Set Radio Future, where you can either just explore and do your thing (trick in JSRF, fight in AR) or try side-missions or main missions to continue the story. Even the boss fights, where you're contained in a section of the level, reminds me of JSRF. Then there is the ability to meet and add characters to your roster.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: max_cady on January 13, 2013, 05:50:15 pm
I'm still waitin' for my copy to arrive in the mail.
Hopefully it should be at my doorstep tomorrow.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 13, 2013, 06:42:25 pm
I'l try it again through the week and see if I can get any online play in, and start the game again on Normal to see if it's less grindy.

I just think... this game can't last very long with the weird concept and reliance on big online multiplayer matches to be fun. There's not going to be enough people online at the end of the day... I wish it had some kind of offline multiplayer, then it might have some more life in it.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Gagaman on January 15, 2013, 02:05:17 pm
Gotta be honest guys, not really feeling it. Combat is really clunky especially compared to Bayonetta. That and I'm just finding it too difficult both in the single player on Normal and online where I don't get a chance to throw a single punch.

Mind you I had this same problem with mad World, and seeing as this is a sort of sequel to that I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. To be fair the only Platinum game I did get along with was Bayonetta, and even that game was too hard for my liking a lot of the time but it had...workarounds, that made it more manageable (infinite flute glitch haha).

Vanquish was nigh on impossible for me to get the hang of too, just too many controls and stuff to remember. I love what these guys do in terms of style, setting etc, but their games are too often way above my league to actually play. A real shame, I really tried to like it.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: max_cady on January 18, 2013, 10:00:59 am
I finally got ahold of my copy of Anarchy Reigns. Shipped before Christmas, arrived today! I was starting to go bonkers!

But anyway, here are my first impression on the game:

From what I played of the first 30 minutes, it's easy to understand why Anarchy Reigns is a very tough sell.
At it's core, it feels like Streets of Rage, but in 3D and it features a free-roaming portion giving the player the impression that it's a sandbox game. So it's a neat idea, but right from the start, I have some small issues with something as trivial as the interface.

This might not seem much but the overlay of green interface with big green letters is somewhat confusion, interface design 101 mistakes really.

I'm not also a big fan of the same 30-second loop from this soundtrack. The cinematics in particular have some of the worst lip-synch I've seen since those poorly dubbed kung fu movies from the 70's.

Now having said that, so far, I'm doing OK with the gameplay, the controls are very tight... I should have more on the game soon.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 20, 2013, 03:44:29 pm
I started the game again in Normal mode and it removed almost all the grinding BS, so that's much better. Unfortunately I still wasn't able to find any matches online because, you know it's a bomb.

It's a shame because the single player feels like a total waste of time since the game was clearly made to be a multiplayer experience, and because all of twelve people bought the game there's nobody to actually play against in Australia. I'm not sure if I can be arsed to finish the game or if I'll just drop it in favor of something else. Or just play Bayonetta again.

Madworld was much better as a single player game I feel.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: loempiavreter on January 21, 2013, 04:49:10 am
The cinematics in particular have some of the worst lip-synch I've seen since those poorly dubbed kung fu movies from the 70's.

A lot of people who collect kung fu movies from this era (from the bashers, shapes, swordsplay genres) prefer dubbed... It's the New Wave genre from the late 80s into the 90s when dub was bad.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: max_cady on January 21, 2013, 03:22:56 pm
Thanks for the correction. I remember seeing old kung fu movies with bad dubs, but I didn't quite remember the time period. When I think of exploitation I gravitate to the 70's.

But anyway, I've been playin' for a few more hours and here's the thing... I am starting not to enjoy the game as much as earlier, on Normal. from what I heard seems to be much less grindy than Hard Mode, if that's the case than I'm OK. But I'm starting to think that Easy Mode should've been the default difficulty.

I don't know exactly how many stages I have to go through but I am already starting to feel a tad bored. And by doing so I am starting to notice other things... The hub worlds, it's a good idea to have the actual multiplayer maps as a way to explore them, but they end up feeling too small. Same goes with cinematics and as such, this game to me is starting to look like something you'd have your B-Team workin' while the top team is workin' on other better projects ( such as Metal Gear Solid Rising Revengeance).
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 21, 2013, 03:51:58 pm
^I think that's just because we are playing the single player only. The game was clearly made to be Multiplayer, with the single player being an afterthought that was tacked on.

The whole singleplayer experience is basically just fighting endless bots with very basic challenges, nothing about it is particularly fun or interesting, even the boss fights devolve into mashing.

I can see when playing human opponents it would get far more in depth and fun, but there's just not enough of a community to get online and play consistently. If it had offline we could at least play it with friends and whatnot...
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: max_cady on January 21, 2013, 05:51:39 pm
Yeah, I am not too crazy about not having offline multiplayer options to be honest. Though I can understand that Splitscreen is not always a good option, especially if you have a small television.

But back to Anarchy Reigns, I just finished Jack's side of the story and now I'm going into Leo's story. The Story Mode is not all bad, it at least provides some background to all the characters that are available. It also serves it's purpose for allowing you to then use them for multiplayer matches.

Though, for SEGA if there was any game that needed a PC port, this would be the one. I mean, at least on the PC, it would have something of an audience.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: ROJM on January 24, 2013, 05:28:42 am
Well its this generation's SPIKEOUT BATTLESTREET that's fer sure. For what it is, its a good/okayish game especially for the price, so its nothing to complain about considering how much games can cost for a less enjoyable experience. My thing is that i wouldn't want this game to be the last Sega published Platinum game to be made because if there were not going to be any more Platinum/Sega collaborations, it shouldn't end with this game.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2013, 02:33:23 pm
I'm working my way through the single player mode. Got to the 2nd area after seriously considering trading the game in and I have to say I'm liking it better at this point. Get past the terrible first level and things start to look up, let's see if it keeps it this way. (Surprisingly emotional cutscenes, and a much more interesting 2nd area.)
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: MadeManG74 on January 27, 2013, 04:09:32 pm
Urgh, i hate those BS cutscenes about his daughter or whatever. He has a fucking chainsaw on his arm and spends his days fighting robot bulls that say 'horny' a lot. Don't even fucking try and shoe-horn in some bullshit about his dead daughter.

Fuck.

Anyway, are you talking about the Chinatown level? It's much a muchness for me. I still just can't shake the feeling that playing single player in this game is like playing arcade mode in Street Fighter...
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: max_cady on January 27, 2013, 04:45:36 pm
To me the hub world feels like your character in a friggin' prison yard. You can't walk two feet without some goons jumping you.
I already finished the entire single player mode on Normal. Hopefully Easy Mode doesn't make me grind as much.
The cool about finishing all the chapters is that on Stage Select you can pick any of the characters you fought on Story Mode and do all the Free Missions and Story Missions in that particular area.

With Jack I didn't have much a problem with, the Chinatown stage is a little tricky on Normal. I only get a Bronze Medal on the first mission, so I had to spend a considerable amount of time just beating thugs up. But after that it was smooth sailing.
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2013, 07:02:17 pm
Yeah I'm at that Chinatown part now. I'm almost through it though, which is good.

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Urgh, i hate those BS cutscenes about his daughter or whatever. He has a fucking chainsaw on his arm and spends his days fighting robot bulls that say 'horny' a lot. Don't even fucking try and shoe-horn in some bullshit about his dead daughter.

I thought they were well done. I agree that they don't fit AT ALL with the dialogue in the gameplay itself, but I wish they did; I wish the dialogue in the game itself was better.


I actually like the visuals; I know they aren't technically impressive but the art direction seems based on games like Mortal Kombat and I love that series' art direction. I also like much of the soundtrack, and the hub world music gives me a bit of a modern Genesis vibe.

Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: max_cady on January 28, 2013, 06:02:48 pm
They also seemed to rip bits of dialogue from Bayonetta: "I feel like a f***ing celebrity in this town."
Title: Re: Anarchy Reigns General Discussion
Post by: Ben on January 28, 2013, 08:59:02 pm
Definitely the writing is a step down from MadWorld.