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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: crackdude on February 20, 2014, 06:56:51 pm
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Taking on such a project are the people at Collectorvision (http://www.collectorvision.com/) who are known for making and publishing homebrew games for consoles such as: Atari2600, Intellivision, Colecovision and TI-99A. While there are not much news on the project yet this will surely get a lot of people head over heels in anticipation. The plans so far are for enhanced graphics and a remix soundtrack on the glorious system that is the Dreamcast (finally something more than just another shoot’em up). Don’t expect this game anytime soon, as it takes a lot of work but head over and show some support.
http://www.16mega.com/retro/hideo-kojimas-snatcher-being-re-made-for-the-dreamcast/
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Enhanced graphics? Looks like they're just running a smoothing filter over them and dulling the colors. :\
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Enhanced graphics? Looks like they're just running a smoothing filter over them and dulling the colors. :\
Yes.
I don't mind smoothing filters. Just don't take away color, that's terrible.
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Take a look at poor Jean's severed head. Between the smoothing and muted colors, you can't make out any of the detail in his hair. Same holds true for other things, but that's the most blatant example.
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This doesn't look like a remake, this looks like someone put original game in an emulator and played with the smoothing filters. And it looks worse than the original because of it.
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This doesn't look like a remake, this looks like someone put original game in an emulator and played with the smoothing filters. And it looks worse than the original because of it.
I don't even understand why they're smoothing anything out. This isn't an HD upscale. They're releasing it on the Dreamcast...
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1. It does not have to be exHD. HD is only their because the un-average consumer, ( like a parent going wild with a credit card ) is spending money that most people can not afford. The graphics looks okay, as long as they are sticking to the PC engine final version, and not the later ports. I think porting of Snatcher is a great thing, and maybe Kojima at Konomi, could even suggest extras. Maybe this will be the version that has all endings, including the extra graphics, and scenes. Snatcher has been censored, time after time again.
2. On that note, the team is probably made up of, mostly programmers, and not artists. All three Snatchers, had dedicated artists, and they redid the graphics respectively ( not including the Saturn and PSX in my opinion..... 3d art ).
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1. It does not have to be exHD. HD is only their because the un-average consumer, ( like a parent going wild with a credit card ) is spending money that most people can not afford. The graphics looks okay, as long as they are sticking to the PC engine final version, and not the later ports. I think porting of Snatcher is a great thing, and maybe Kojima at Konomi, could even suggest extras. Maybe this will be the version that has all endings, including the extra graphics, and scenes. Snatcher has been censored, time after time again.
2. On that note, the team is probably made up of, mostly programmers, and not artists. All three Snatchers, had dedicated artists, and they redid the graphics respectively ( not including the Saturn and PSX in my opinion..... 3d art ).
Never said anything about it needing to be in high definition. I just think it's pointless to toss a smoothing filter over a game that's in standard def. The Sega CD is capable of upscaling to 480i and the Dreamcast can do native 480p. Why bother smoothing it out? I don't particularly like when it's done to HD upscales, but at least you can understand the rationale. Here though... Why?
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Maybe they do not have any artists, on their team, and they are just being retarded lazy, about the whole thing. Instead of remaking the art, paying somebody, and facing offensive reviews. Another thing is that, their programmers are not too keen on Dreamcast ( who wouldn't be ), and are doing it a specific way, due to the image output. Maybe they are expecting that person, who is using an exHD display, and fears the how it would look.
Otherwise it is their game, and their choice.
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That's the thing. It's really not their game. It's Hideo Kojima's game, and they're making it look like a dark smeary mess for no good reason.
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Well, that is your opinion, apparently. I rather like it, so far, and can't wait for the release. Of course we can't judge until we actually play the game itself. The game has been enhanced, and then ported twice. Kojima's work stopped on the PC engine release, with the "true ending", and the SD snatcher that has a bit of more story to it. The only enhancement was the gun-con addition, and the censored translation, for the SEGA-CD model.
Think about it. They are making a port of Snatcher for the Dreamcast, and are planing to sell it, is that not awesome?
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What major advantage is there to having Snatcher on the Dreamcast though? There is none. Konami should really consider a legit port of the game for iOS or Android. It would actually have some value on mobile devices.
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Before reading, remember you have the power. Why not write to them, and request for the game to be ported to a smart ( ha ha ha ) phone.
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Think about it like this, right now their are many games being made for dead consoles. I mean like enough for a person, to buy one for every holiday, birthday, and vacation of the year. Chances are "people who do not have the power to vote, have a real credit card, " are not going to be the ones purchasing these games. People are asking, why is the videogame market shrinking?
We ( who are no longer "minors" ) are now the pc gamers, power-users, responsible person, should have the realization of what we have in our hands. You get it now? Do you get it? WE HAVE THE POWER BECAUSE......In the end all that is left is us. Like the White Witch of Narnia, "her grip grew tighter and tighter", we can choose the slay her, or sacrifice a child of Adam, to bring her back to life.
Why not the west? Look at Microsoft banning all people from making X-box games, via home-made kits. Why is that? Microsoft wanted people to buy 360's ( even if most 360 games are X-box games. They wanted to sell dev-kits. If I did not mention this, even during a game systems life time, tons of home-made games were made, and even aftewards. In Japan, I could find a store running games, from 8-bit consoles, and an audience of people. The west for years have been trying to convert videogames, computers, media, and anything else into a tiny little box, why? Because all the "old money" people in the world do not respect new things. You have some art student in New Jersey right now, who made over thousands of dollars for an huge sculpted egg, and now he is working on another one even bigger, then that? A man in Japan, has been making home-made cars, he ships out around the world? A woman makes breast paintings, with her breasts? Does that make any sense at all? Not the normal consumer, and not to us videogame people??? Along with censoring/localization, everybody with the cash, ( our parents ) are demoting our love in our products.
I know it sucks to grow up, but in a range of wealth and spending, we are able to set the standard. We can shutdown the entire Microsoft, Nintendo, Taco-bell, British Petroleum, SONY, Apple, COSTCO, COSCO, if we wanted to, just by not giving a cent. We can pretend it is still, the golden age of gaming, and no deal with middle management. That is why capitalism is awesome. It is just that many of us are fooled by the "sugar coated" version of capitalism called marketing, advertisements, lobbying, and sales.
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Yes, yes, yes, I will admit, to get games like "Snatcher" to people, who are super impulsive, yes I agree, making an smart ( ha ha ha ) phone port of the game. Their are tons of game makers from the DOS age comming out, and porting thier previous games to the smart ( ha ha ha ) phones. Guess what? you can't own a smart ( ha ha ha ) phone, game, all you can do is play around with it, until the game is no longer supported, and for some reason your unable to transfer the files. To make things even more difficult with services like "Steam" and "Steam Box" your purchasing a product that is prone to damage, and being unrecoverable. You are right, for new users, who do not know what is what, this is a great idea, however you know what?
Chances are they could make more money, and give a legitimate product out to people. Making a dreamcast ( It could even be a SMS game ) game is twice as nice. Right now Dreamcast in Europe at least, has a chance of being revived.
While people do not want to think cruel, on the purchaser. Imagine that poor fool in a "third, fourth world nation" who barely makes a cent, and now is going to spend their money on a smart ( ha ha ha ) phone game. While it is a better medium for that one person, to enjoy the game, and it is at a smaller price, chances are, we all know that money could have been saved, or better spent.
In a nutshell smart phone games are combing the world of their smallest dime, to make a decent cent, that will eventually be collected as taxes, or a subscription.
Far ahead into the future, when we ( humanity as a whole ) are still being cheap, looney tune lemmings. These downloads will cost like -50, or even -200, and people will live in boxes like Bender and Fry from "Futurama". That one purchase help push that movement. Some of these downloads are costing -30 or even -50, as I have read on various information websites. Soon you will have a smart ( ha ha ha ) phone fill of nothing, or access to a download service, that you will be paying like a tax, a fine, a ticket, or what we foolishly call a bill.
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What the fuck did I just read?
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What the fuck did I just read?
Well, to sum it up:
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/df4352b7810d2cf35004eeadf44d5938/tumblr_mi1j525jIh1s4df6vo1_500.gif)
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We ( who are no longer "minors" ) are now the pc gamers, power-users, responsible person, should have the realization of what we have in our hands. You get it now? Do you get it? WE HAVE THE POWER BECAUSE......In the end all that is left is us. Like the White Witch of Narnia, "her grip grew tighter and tighter", we can choose the slay her, or sacrifice a child of Adam, to bring her back to life.
Best part of it all..
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Well, to sum it up:
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/df4352b7810d2cf35004eeadf44d5938/tumblr_mi1j525jIh1s4df6vo1_500.gif)
Yes, I'm typing to you as the space baby at this very moment.
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So basically we have the power to scream and yell at people to make things we claim to pay money for, but potentially won't for a game that was a financial failure and has a -niche- audience?
I seriously hate this elitist attitude that media industries have cultured, where all people seem to want is just sequels and remakes when all it does is impose on branching creativity and only serves the purpose of an audience that will continually shrink as time goes on. Whatever scatter brained plan you have, while demand can have a sway, people don't really know what they want, and people who demand things to go their way because they want to dictate their money in a specific way doesn't support the individual, the creators of these games, it only fuels the dark side of capitalism.
Its that kind of mentality that makes programs like Kickstarter flawed because while their clause states you can't retract your payment, legally they can't, and you see people like with the Mighty No. 9 project retracting their payments because they were in fear that they weren't going to get a product they wanted. (No girls allowed!) There is a special pit in hell for these types of people, and frankly, once they die, there won't be anyone wanting a new Snatcher, Mighty No. 9 or whatever because pop culture will bury these "video games" with the next "big thing."
tl;dr example: Say a My Little Pony fan in his 30's complaining that the show isn't catering to their older audience or to his needs and whims. Answer: Its a kids show you idiot. You are a byproduct of their success and the world does not revolve around your life.
At the very least, I'd rather see a new Snatcher, or just redo Snatcher altogether, because the game may have a neat story, its still blatantly ripping on Blade Runner and showing that Kojima is a big fan of movies and in reality a mediocre writer.
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What provoked that? ^
[Edit]: I'm not sure I entirely follow what you're saying, but if you're railing on what I think you're railing on, then I'll just say this...
1. These guys don't own the rights to Snatcher. It's not really theirs to do what they want with and it's definitely not theirs from which to profit.
2. If you're handling someone else's work, you should treat it with the utmost respect, and based on the stuff they've posted, I don't see that happening here.