Sonic Generations Discussion

[CosmicCastaway]

So the 3DS version visuals aren't on par with every 3DS game out there. What does it matter? If you really want good visuals you'd be playing it on the PS3/360 anyways.

[Sharky]

Sega has some great looking games. It's probably for the best that they started the games on the DS (assuming they did), seeing how the end result won't be as rushed as it would have been if they started making the games when they got the 3DS dev kits. (again, assuming they started working on the games before they got the dev kits)

Don't quote me but I'd bet pretty hard that this game was well into development before the 3DS was even announced.

It sucks that this game isn't going to look as good as Mario 3DS, but then again no Mario game will look as good as Sonic Generations HD any time soon, so what ever.

It's not the end of the world.

[Radrappy]

Mario Galaxy 2 looks just as good as Generations HD thanks very much!  But I agree with your sentiments.  It's just disappointing to see this kind of stuff sneak through when it seems like Sega's steadily improving their products.

[CosmicCastaway]

I have to disagree Radrappy. Sonic Generations looks better overall.
For the record, I did enjoy what I played of Super Mario Galaxy, but I have a good feeling that Sonic Generations is going to be even better than those titles.

[Radrappy]

I have to disagree Radrappy. Sonic Generations looks better overall.
For the record, I did enjoy what I played of Super Mario Galaxy, but I have a good feeling that Sonic Generations is going to be even better than those titles.

They look pretty much on the same level to me.  I'd actually give this one to SMG's favor for at least having what seems an extremely vibrant and lively environment.  Water to splash in, a giant insect to avoid, a tree to climb.  When you isolate what in that Generations shot the player can actually INTERACT with, it's well, a flat, narrow path.  I guess there's a nice uh ledge to duck under coming up.

[Sharky]

Graphics and... Whats in the screenshot are very different!

This is pretty much my favourite screen so far, I think it looks pretty much perfect.

[Radrappy]

Looking at that shot really got me thinking,



why don't they fucking, LOSE THE BOOST and in exchange just give us more to do per foot?

[Aki-at]

It's just disappointing to see this kind of stuff sneak through when it seems like Sega's steadily improving their products.

Well none of SEGA's games announced so far are even inhouse, seems to me they've underprepared themselves for the Nintendo 3DS and just throwing out anything they can. Would not be surprised if they are more interested on working on the NGP this generation.

[Suzuki Yu]

Radrappy , are you serious?

SMG and Sonic Generation both looks equally at the same level to you!
and yet you are pleased with how PSO2 looked !!!

pictures are not everything , SMG doesn't have the scale and depth of fields, the lightening technology, the amount of details, the crazy speed, and the huge levels that Sonic Generations have.

you can't compare sonic games to any other games without keeping those factors in mind.

this is another reason (other than the bad pixlated scans)that makes me want to see the game in-motion first before saying anything.

[Aki-at]

this is another reason (other than the bad pixlated scans)that makes me want to see the game in-motion first before saying anything.

Even if you need to see it in motion, does not explain why there is a serious lack of stuff in the foreground (And background) or why the sunflower seems to be a flat cardboard cutout.

Does not look impressive at all.

[Radrappy]

and yet you are pleased with how PSO2 looked !!!

Pretty sure I never said this.  I am decidedly not pleased with how PSO2 looks.  

SMG doesn't have the scale, lightening technology, the amount of details, the crazy speed, and the huge levels that Sonic Generations have.

 

All superficial advantages.  "SMG doesn't have the lighting technology!" who gives a rats ass.  I wish people would stop parading around the "hedgehog engine" as if it was somehow important.  Obviously Generations is of higher fidelity than SMG and has more RAW PROCESSOR POWER with which to render details or what have you.  Doesn't matter.  SMG is smartly designed within the confines of its hardware and as a result looks stunning and yes, on par with what we've seen of Generations so far.

[Suzuki Yu]

and yet you are pleased with how PSO2 looked !!!

Pretty sure I never said this.  I am decidedly not pleased with how PSO2 looks.  

SMG doesn't have the scale, lightening technology, the amount of details, the crazy speed, and the huge levels that Sonic Generations have.

 

All superficial advantages.  "SMG doesn't have the lighting technology!" who gives a rats ass.  I wish people would stop parading around the "hedgehog engine" as if it was somehow important.  Obviously Generations is of higher fidelity than SMG and has more RAW PROCESSOR POWER with which to render details or what have you.  Doesn't matter.  SMG is smartly designed within the confines of its hardware and as a result looks stunning and yes, on par with what we've seen of Generations so far.

superficial advantages!!! What!

and yes the lightning technology is important. one of the reasons why PSO2 looks outdated as hell because it's not taking advantage of the technology the hedgehog engine offered.

[Sharky]

and yet you are pleased with how PSO2 looked !!!

Pretty sure I never said this.  I am decidedly not pleased with how PSO2 looks.  

SMG doesn't have the scale, lightening technology, the amount of details, the crazy speed, and the huge levels that Sonic Generations have.

 

All superficial advantages.  "SMG doesn't have the lighting technology!" who gives a rats ass.  I wish people would stop parading around the "hedgehog engine" as if it was somehow important.  Obviously Generations is of higher fidelity than SMG and has more RAW PROCESSOR POWER with which to render details or what have you.  Doesn't matter.  SMG is smartly designed within the confines of its hardware and as a result looks stunning and yes, on par with what we've seen of Generations so far.

It looks good for the confines of its hardware, so does Sonic Colours... Still doesn't look as good as Sonic Generations, all of those 'superficial advantages' are what make it look better and are what make the Hedgehog Engine worth parading around.

Honestly, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here... Are you saying that Mario Galaxy doesn't look better than Sonic G but we are supposed to forgive that and pretend that it does because it's build on Nintendos low spec console? Why?

I think you've spent to long with the terribly whiney people on the GHZ and PSOWorld forums where everyones grumps around and circle jerking over any fault they can find, (or make up) when it comes to Sega. Lighten up!

There are times to be angry and jaded with Sega... The graphics and engine of Sonic Generations isn't it... The HD graphics look stunning and the DS ones are passable.

When Sega announced Sonic FreeRiders 4 and PSO2 being $15.99 per month you have full permition to unleash hell.

[Radrappy]

What am I saying?  I'm saying SMG looks great, don't knock it with a ridiculous statement like

then again no Mario game will look as good as Sonic Generations HD any time soon, so what ever.

This kind of line really makes us Sonic fans come off as sad seeing as how our games are no where near close to trumping Mario in terms of gameplay OR visuals.  Deal with it.  Generations certainly has the technical specs, and does look great, but its silly to say Nintendo is left in the dust visually when they've put out an almost equally amazing looking product not so long ago.

"who needs great gameplay?! We've got HIGH DEFINITION GRAPHICS and the HEDGEHOG LIGHTING ENGINE!"

I would trade both of them in for a great game in a heart beat, which is why I love sonic colors.

[Suzuki Yu]

who the fuck talked about the gameplay? and when we were saying SMG ain't beautiful?

i am big fan of Tokyo EAD myself.
but to compare SMG with sonic generations visually is nothing but ridicules, it's not even close.
i know that SMG is pushing the Wii Hardware to it's limits and they did a great job, same for Colors.