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Offline Sharky

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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2010, 03:36:52 pm »
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Actually you have to find clues in Heavy Rain to move the investigation forward and conversations and how you handle them determin how the story unfolds. I get it, you played Lucas Arts' point and click adventure games and you think that is the best ones. I get it. Doesn't mean those are the only ones.

Parts of Heavy Rain remind me of games like Tex Murphy series. The game is about searching, exploring and finding new pieces to a puzzle. If that is not what a point and click adventure game is about, then cool. I guess we played them different.
I remember Tex Murphy... But to me that was also just trying to be an interactive movie. I mean wasnt it like, live action actors? (i think)

When I think of a point and click adventure, I think of Monkey Island, Grimm Fandango, Simon the Sorcerer, Leasure Suit Larry, Sam and Max or Broken Sword.

The 'first person' feeling ones were never my bag, and rarely actually good... bar Zork and maybe Myst... if your into that kind of thing.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2010, 03:47:00 pm »
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Actually you have to find clues in Heavy Rain to move the investigation forward and conversations and how you handle them determin how the story unfolds. I get it, you played Lucas Arts' point and click adventure games and you think that is the best ones. I get it. Doesn't mean those are the only ones.

Parts of Heavy Rain remind me of games like Tex Murphy series. The game is about searching, exploring and finding new pieces to a puzzle. If that is not what a point and click adventure game is about, then cool. I guess we played them different.
I remember Tex Murphy... But to me that was also just trying to be an interactive movie. I mean wasnt it like, live action actors? (i think)

When I think of a point and click adventure, I think of Monkey Island, Grimm Fandango, Simon the Sorcerer, Leasure Suit Larry, Sam and Max or Broken Sword.

The 'first person' feeling ones were never my bag, and rarely actually good... bar Zork and maybe Myst... if your into that kind of thing.
It did sort of. But I loved it, not the whole 'being a movie' but having a darker story that most games at the time did not have.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2010, 05:40:13 pm »
GUYS IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN



this is 2010 and they can't make better facial expressions than shenmue wtf
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2010, 05:50:49 pm »
that's some ugly shit.

just love that western 'realism'.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2010, 05:57:53 pm »
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GUYS IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN



this is 2010 and they can't make better facial expressions than shenmue wtf
Actually thats a 3 year old tech demo. Has nothing to do with the actual game. That actually looks horrible compared to the demo, maybe you should actually play it instead of just making comparison based on a 3 year old tech trailer?
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2010, 06:19:40 pm »
Tried the demo and didn't like it even if I went into it knowing I wouldn't like it.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2010, 07:33:21 am »
That's some ugly ass blur-fest you got there George..
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2010, 08:05:52 am »
Believe it or not, that is what an older man looks like. Sorry you are not sexually attracted to him.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2010, 11:04:12 am »
The blur is a camera effect simulation (closer objects are defined with the surroundings being blurred, don't you watch movies?). Stop whining. Shenmue is 10, it's not the cutting edge in graphics technology anymore.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2010, 11:11:38 am »
Yeah that's just focus.

The Heavy Rain models do not look that bad to be outdone by a ten year old game, they infact look very good. Though not really interested in the game either way.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2010, 12:13:17 pm »
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2010, 01:24:19 pm »
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The blur is a camera effect simulation (closer objects are defined with the surroundings being blurred, don't you watch movies?). Stop whining. Shenmue is 10, it's not the cutting edge in graphics technology anymore.
I love me Shenmue, but if you want to compare it to something, compare it to FFXIII, where it beats it by a huge margin. At least on Shenmue, not every character looks the same.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2010, 02:00:17 pm »
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I love me Shenmue, but if you want to compare it to something, compare it to FFXIII, where it beats it by a huge margin. At least on Shenmue, not every character looks the same.

Art direction isn't the same as graphics technology. Comparing Shenmue to FFXIII is ridiculous. Lame design aside the models in Final Fantasy are much more detailed in every aspect. However, I do agree Shenmue holds quite well these days, especially the environments which is something people tend to ignore quite frequently. Just don't tell me it looks better than current games because those games have characters that look all the same. That's a funny argument when you're comparing technologies.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2010, 02:14:30 pm »
I do not want to have to go onto the other site to dig up those screenshots we posted months ago, but a lot of the characters in FFXIII are very very low poly, in fact a lot of Shenmue characters surpass them by quite a bit. No joke.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2010, 04:30:59 pm »
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Comparing Shenmue to FFXIII is ridiculous. Lame design aside the models in Final Fantasy are much more detailed in every aspect.

They are not Orta, they really are not. They are probably the worst models in a major game I've seen this generation and, lighting aside, could probably have been done on the Playstation 2 to an extent.
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