Anarchy Reigns delayed... again

[loempiavreter]

I'm gonna import first so I can enjoy the online matches for as long as they last and then buy PAL region eventually if it does indeed come out, fuck the haters... One of the few interesting games in a long time next to HOTD4's PSN port last month (and Shinobi 3ds and Code of Princess).

Really Jet Set Radio, can't believe they are focusing their marketing on a re-release.

And everyone who says it looks garbage but did enjoy God Hand, your gonna miss out. Check the japanese Platinum account, seems a to be a pretty decent fighting system.

[Aki-at]

Aki says that the game is expected to sell 700k (I think) worldwide....if it's released in Japan only, the chances of that happening are practically zero.

This was a good 6 months before SEGA's restructuring, I doubt Anarchy Reigns would have been comissioned now as it was back then.

I don't think that's fine, though....the industry is not big enough (and never will be,) for most games to sell over 1 million. 1 million is a lot of copies. Games that are required to go platinum to be successful should be far fewer in number than they have become. That's why we're seeing so many studios closing their doors, being bought out, or laying off staff. It's not sustainable. It takes lots of marketing dollars to create a million-seller.

I did not say most, I was talking about top tier games. Games like Bayonetta should be aiming for a million seller, games like 7th Dragon, Valkyria Chronicles etc should not need to get such a high figure. But top tier games, a million is a good target. It has always been the target for top tier games. A level games should go well over a million whilst B and C games should stick between the 200k - 500k range.

[Ben]

I did not say most, I was talking about top tier games. Games like Bayonetta should be aiming for a million seller, games like 7th Dragon, Valkyria Chronicles etc should not need to get such a high figure. But top tier games, a million is a good target. It has always been the target for top tier games. A level games should go well over a million whilst B and C games should stick between the 200k - 500k range.

I think we're in agreement that 1 million+ is a desirable number for top tier games...but the point I'm making is that games shouldn't need 1 million+ to break even. I can understand setting goals and expectations to 1 million+ sales, but I don't think it's a good thing when selling over a million (to even see a profit) is a requirement for a surprising number of games being released this gen. That's what I have an issue with.

[Barry the Nomad]

Yo, nSega, I'm seein your opinions all over the forums and twitter. Why not write up an op-ed and post it on the front page. 

[max_cady]

There's been a "minor" update, so to speak, courtesy of Gameover.pt.

According to the news, while the game will not be released on July 5th, it will still get a release within July.

[Barry the Nomad]

Interesting... if true. Fingers crossed!

[Ben]

Yo, nSega, I'm seein your opinions all over the forums and twitter. Why not write up an op-ed and post it on the front page. 

lol I've wanted to post op ed pieces in the past for similar thoughts involving other games but I was told not to; that this was an area in which we had to tread carefully. 

[MadeManG74]

How come he gets to post his rants on the front page, but when I suggested the VF5FS launch party coverage be put on the front page it was rejected? 

[Ben]

How come he gets to post his rants on the front page, but when I suggested the VF5FS launch party coverage be put on the front page it was rejected? 

Wait, whaaa? I don't get to/have never asked post any "rants" on the front page.....

[MadeManG74]

Wait, whaaa? I don't get to/have never asked post any "rants" on the front page.....

Yo, nSega, I'm seein your opinions all over the forums and twitter. Why not write up an op-ed and post it on the front page. 

But seriously, I'm not having a dig at you, just having a whinge at Barry. 

[Ben]

lol yeah I s'pose.


But yeah, I mean, I've asked to post op/ed pieces in the past involving similar topics to this one and got them turned down by the rest of the staff,  so, I dunno. :p

The idea of trying one for this didn't even occur to me, though I do appreciate Barry suggesting it.

[Aki-at]

I think we're in agreement that 1 million+ is a desirable number for top tier games...but the point I'm making is that games shouldn't need 1 million+ to break even. I can understand setting goals and expectations to 1 million+ sales, but I don't think it's a good thing when selling over a million (to even see a profit) is a requirement for a surprising number of games being released this gen. That's what I have an issue with.

I do not see much of an issue with that though. If devs and publishers have such high ambitions then I can understand 1 million sales to break even. A game the scoop of GTA: SA would need a million even last generation so if a publisher/dev feels the need to have such a big budget to much their ambition, nothing wrong with that.

As I pointed out though, a lot of devs/publishers are not efficient with their money, something like Homefront surprisingly cost over $50 million to make yet most can tell its not a top tier game. It is wastage of resources like so that is why we have such large budgets.

[Ben]

That's just one of many factors. There are plenty of developers who do not waste their resources who have difficulty profiting.

[max_cady]

They won't be showing off Anarchy Reigns at this year's E3 apparently.

I'm starting to think that they'll pull a Konami, like they did with Blades of Times, a sequel to a highly mediocre game (X-Blades) that was just sorta dumped unexpectadly during March 2012.

[MadeManG74]

Japanese demo is out today on PSN I believe, anyone getting it? I'll try to get it next month when my net kicks back into gear.

Also, has anyone considered the possibility that the game is just really, really bad and Sega is aware of this and trying to release it quietly without any fanfare? I don't want it to be true, but...