Service Games: Rise & Fall of Sega Enhanced Edition

[cube_b3]

Hiya,


I have been collaborating with David on a reprint for the color hardcover version of the book. We have successfully raised enough money for a reprint but we need to raise another grand to give the book a nice dust jacket and a book mark.


The original color hc was for 200$, in this Kickstarter we have reduced the price over 60%.
That is 480 color pages!
www.historyofsega.com


We also have an awesome T-Shirt for only 20$, that comes with a free eBook.

 
Thanks for your support.
KickStarter ends in 18 Hours.

[Barry the Nomad]

Did you know the fonts used are not meant to be used for commercial use?

http://www.clavis.ne.jp/~sonic/segasonic/act5/font.htm

Also, does the book list the image sources? I'm seeing a lot of SEGA Retro content.

[cube_b3]

The eBook fonts are custom, check your settings.

This book is an enhanced and revised edition of Sega Base, the first Sega history website on the internet which was created in the late 90s. It should predate Sega Retro's existence.

Not trying to diminish the excellent work Sega Retro has done for the community but as far as I know it is a Wiki based Encyclopedia; hence it should not have any original research.

I hope I have answered your question, please support us.

[George]

Well, you didn't answer the questions Cube because its not true. Here is the font from my photoshop, which I got from http://www.clavis.ne.jp/~sonic/segasonic/act5/font.htm



Says on the site don't use fonts for commercial use, which you guys have and now are lying about. Who knows what else you guys are lying about.

[Barry the Nomad]

Yeah, unless you are referring to other fonts, those are the Nise fonts. If they're not, maybe you could show me these custom fonts via a screengrab of the font preview?

I'm not trying to call the internet police, I was just noting that they're fonts that are not meant for commercial/business use.

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Re: Retro - "hence it should not have any original research"

Completely wrong on that one.

[TimmiT]

The eBook fonts are custom, check your settings.

This book is an enhanced and revised edition of Sega Base, the first Sega history website on the internet which was created in the late 90s. It should predate Sega Retro's existence.

So it's less accurate? :V

Not trying to diminish the excellent work Sega Retro has done for the community but as far as I know it is a Wiki based Encyclopedia; hence it should not have any original research.

It's amazing how wrong you are.


I'd also not just judge all wikis as websites that just take their info from elsewhere. I know for a fact that you can probably piss some people off by doing that without crediting the website (*cough*tcrf*cough*)

[Deefy]

Semi-o.t.

Meanwhile, the fall of SEGA continues, at least from the point of view of R&D consumer, in fact today's news is that even Ryuta Ueda has left the dear old big S 

[Saturn Memories]

I don't get why you guys didn't offer more than five softcover copies. The leap from $30 for a softcover to $75 for a hardcover was just too staggering. Probably would've supported this otherwise.

[Barry the Nomad]

I've read 40 pages so far and... it's not that great. I mean I appreciate the effort, but there errors that really should have been corrected, no real effort put into the layout and design, and (as mentioned) images were not cited. I paged through and some things jumped out at me: Image resolution is all over the place, SEGA of America's building is labeled as being SEGA Europe HQ (c'mon guys) and there are out of place top ten lists in one section where a guy just lists the ten worst SEGA CD games and number 2 just says "most of the FMV games". Pointless list and not very professional. :-/

[Saturn Memories]

Ah, I thought this was a licensed book. Maybe I'm thinking of the other one that's floating around right now. The Mega Drive one. Either way, I'd be interested to see a full write up on the front page at some point. Negative reviews are equally as useful as positive ones.

[George]

You mean: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darrenwall/sega-mega-drive-genesis-collected-works/posts?page=2 ?

[Saturn Memories]

Yep, that's it.

[cube_b3]

I have been confused over the font until George posted the picture.
It wasn't the font in the book it was on the cover art.
I can see the complaints being valid. I was concerned too, when George posted them,
I reached to our Project Lead and he informed me that we were given permission to use the font.
Makes sense, the book is being sold on a dozen platforms.
Would it have been possible if we didn't have consent?
Those who have been following the project over the years would remember one of the earlier cover arts had the SEGA logo on it.

@ Barry: The references will be added onto our official site. As for your other criticism, David our project lead worked to the best of his ability. Additionally, all backers who pledged more than 20$ were invited to proof read and work on the project. I was a backer on the original Kickstarter and I did help out as much time and money allowed me too.
Although I have only joined now as part of the 2nd Kickstarter.

The book went through several drafts.
https://www.facebook.com/ServiceGamesTheRiseAndFallOfSega/photos_stream

You should be able to see them in the timeline, as well as a few covers that we considered.
On the Kickstarter page our project lead David shared dozens and dozens of cover choices.

@ Saturn Memories: I have been informed that this was the cheapest we could have done given the number of units we are producing. We are actually doing some exciting stuff behind the scene, like trying to fulfill the stretch goals even though the funding didn't reach it.

@ Timmit: As I told Barry just now, we are working on our website.
We will add some of the content on the website, such as our reference pages.
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Lastly to all I would just like to say this is a labor of love. I am a backer, I have paid to be a part of this historic project. Additionally I have taken days off work to speak to business backers. I believe in this project and here is my story:
http://www.seganerds.com/2014/01/18/service-games-rise-fall-of-sega-enhanced-edition-history-book-now-shipping/
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Please excuse any typo's I have had a long day and am going to bed.

[Saturn Memories]

I'm just confused as to why you're only selling five softcover copies. If you're not making enough money off of them, why would you sell them at all? If you are making enough, why wouldn't you offer to sell more? Are they leftover proofs for the hardcovers or something?

[George]

@Cube_b3: Thanks for the prompt and detailed answer. Not sure if I'm 100% convinced, but the answer is fine enough for me. Again Cube, no hate on you, I like your passion for the project.