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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #420 on: June 27, 2010, 04:48:16 am »
:lol: Go back to your world series of American teams. :lol:
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #421 on: June 27, 2010, 06:53:17 am »
Americans are blaming the coach 'Bob Bradley' for making wrong choices: Fiddley; Clark and Altiodores are some of the names the coach should allow to play.

Source: http://www.firebobbradleynow.com/


I also think 'Altidore', 'Fiddley' and 'Clark' suck.
Howard, Donovan, Dempsey and Bradley-son were the best american players in this WC.

Also, I think Onyewu should have been listed to play against Ghana.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #422 on: June 27, 2010, 09:40:05 am »
The 'Germany x England' game is, so far, very exciting!
England has just scored a valid goal but the referee did not validate it.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #423 on: June 27, 2010, 10:02:24 am »
What the heck? How was that not a goal. The ball clearly went in! I can't beleive England was robbed like that.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #424 on: June 27, 2010, 10:47:06 am »
Ahahahaha!

So England, ready to listen to the words of Arsene Wenger?

Spirit and passion doesn't win you world cups, technical ability, tactically understanding and great tenacity wins you them. Update your academies and understand football is more about bone crushing tackles. James Milner being the best our academy has to offer is an absolute crime.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #425 on: June 27, 2010, 10:49:34 am »
The game has just ended.
Mick Jagger couldn't get no satisfaction watching this game...
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #426 on: June 27, 2010, 01:01:28 pm »
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The game has just ended.
Mick Jagger couldn't get no satisfaction watching this game...
LOOOOOOOOOL

it was a great game. I don't give a shit about the goal not being validated. Give the 66 cup back to Germany and I'll care. Karma's a bitch fuckers.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #427 on: June 27, 2010, 01:13:40 pm »


You suck, England.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #428 on: June 27, 2010, 02:32:41 pm »
Another mess up made by the umpire... Tevez's goal was irregular. It shoud had been an offside.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #429 on: June 27, 2010, 02:35:01 pm »
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it was a great game. I don't give a shit about the goal not being validated. Give the 66 cup back to Germany and I'll care. Karma's a bitch fuckers.

It's not karma, it's incorrect decisions, stupid decisions that must be corrected from the game. I could not give a damn about the England team, but this is borderlining on stupidty by being the only sport that doesn't use cameras to determine outcomes, but FIFA likes to have as much money as possible or some illogical statement they can shout out.

[spoiler:256war4d]Also by that account Argentina are going to beat ze Germans because of 1990[/spoiler:256war4d]

Oh there we go, Argentina score an offside goal. Yes, football does not need technology, the human method is perfect. No we do not need technology for the sport.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #430 on: June 27, 2010, 02:45:17 pm »
What. A. Goal.

Teves is such a great player, fantastic, shame you have to pay 30 million pounds every 3 years or so for him.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #431 on: June 27, 2010, 03:56:55 pm »
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it was a great game. I don't give a shit about the goal not being validated. Give the 66 cup back to Germany and I'll care. Karma's a bitch fuckers.

It's not karma, it's incorrect decisions, stupid decisions that must be corrected from the game. I could not give a damn about the England team, but this is borderlining on stupidty by being the only sport that doesn't use cameras to determine outcomes, but FIFA likes to have as much money as possible or some illogical statement they can shout out.

[spoiler:n884l85k]Also by that account Argentina are going to beat ze Germans because of 1990[/spoiler:n884l85k]

Oh there we go, Argentina score an offside goal. Yes, football does not need technology, the human method is perfect. No we do not need technology for the sport.
You forget that right after the non-goal Germany almost scores.
Now imagine that it is allowed for the decisions to be contested by the coach. Now with that in mind, Germany scores right away. What will they do, count one for England and not Germany? Isn't the German goal as legal since the play wasn't cut?

Or if they allowed the coaches to cut the plays in order to protest, some would use that to cut off dangerous counter-attacks.

Resorting to technology would involve stopping the game. That's bullshit.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #432 on: June 27, 2010, 04:17:54 pm »
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You forget that right after the non-goal Germany almost scores.

Only AFTER England scored a perfectly legal goal.

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Now with that in mind, Germany scores right away. What will they do, count one for England and not Germany? Isn't the German goal as legal since the play wasn't cut?

No, you do not, because England scored a perfectly valid goal. Under the correct manner of things, play would have started back in the centre circle.

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Or if they allowed the coaches to cut the plays in order to protest, some would use that to cut off dangerous counter-attacks.

Resorting to technology would involve stopping the game. That's bullshit.

So why are you always complaining about refs? Stop complaining about them, don't call all or any of them shit if you are unwillingly to change the game to help them out.

You think it's bullshit, but what's bullshit is dodgy decisions again and again being played in the biggest matches. That is the ultimate bullshit, games have to sometimes be decided by completely incorrect and wrong decisions.

Football will not all of a sudden breakdown completely and be ruined forever, that's insane to think that, it doesn't ruin the flow of the game if applied correctly, it only makes it fair. What is wrong with making the game as fair as possible?
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #433 on: June 27, 2010, 04:42:47 pm »
So how do you apply it correctly?

You say this: "No, you do not, because England scored a perfectly valid goal. Under the correct manner of things, play would have started back in the centre circle."
This would NOT happen.
If they were to use tech after the ref made the bad call, one of two things would happen:
(1) the coach immediately calling the play and effectively stopping the game for what could or couldn't be a legal goal (at this point it is still left to determine);
(2) the coach would call the play, and it would be investigated the next time the game stops. Incidentally, that's when Germany also scores. Since the game was not stopped, both goals are legal and may the clusterfuck begin.

It will either break the game or cause even more confusion. Not the right way to go.
I'm all for chips in the balls or whatever. I'm totally against stopping the game to look at tv screens, and anyone who loves football and thinks about it for a sec will as well.
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Re: Official Bootter Thread of Bergkamp and Dutch Masters
« Reply #434 on: June 27, 2010, 04:58:33 pm »
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You say this: "No, you do not, because England scored a perfectly valid goal. Under the correct manner of things, play would have started back in the centre circle."
This would NOT happen.
If they were to use tech after the ref made the bad call, one of two things would happen:
(1) the coach immediately calling the play and effectively stopping the game for what could or couldn't be a legal goal (at this point it is still left to determine);
(2) the coach would call the play, and it would be investigated the next time the game stops. Incidentally, that's when Germany also scores. Since the game was not stopped, both goals are legal and may the clusterfuck begin.

This is what is the correct set of events, England scored a valid goal, it means the Germans would be unable to score that goal because they could not attack from that position because England scored a PERFECTLY LEGAL GOAL and would start the attack from the centre circle.

And how long does it take for the ref to see an offside or a correct goal, about one second, if a commentator watching the game can call an incorrect decision at the precise moment that decision is given, why can the ref not have a fourth assistent who can confirm to him he has given the right decision watching replays of the game. Think about that. We do not need a minute to see if a correct decision is right, just a few seconds.

And why should the coach be allowed to call play? If the refs assistent says what he believes, tough for the manager and the team, no team should be allowed to in the end influence the ref. At the end of the day, it should always be left to the refs discretion. Not the manager.

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It will either break the game or cause even more confusion. Not the right way to go.

And the current method is any better... How? The current method causes people to feel great injustice, attack refs, abuse them, it is not good, it's awful. You say it will break the game, don't be insane, you don't have any foundations to stand on considering every major sport HAS video replays and every sport still plays fine.

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I'm all for chips in the balls or whatever. I'm totally against stopping the game to look at tv screens, and anyone who loves football and thinks about it for a sec will as well.

You are assuming we have to do it like cricket, we do not. You have another assistent or two just watching video replays. That takes a matter of seconds.

Are you claiming that Wenger and Ferguson, two of the most successful managers of the English game, are either incorrect about their consistent assertation about goal line technology or do not love the sport. More or less every coach and player wants the technology and a large amount of fans of clubs do too.

You think about that for a second.
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