Natal = Kinect? XBOX = slimmer?

[crackdude]

Why not a 3DTV for Xbox as well? MS will eventually put it on the 360 too.

[Barry the Nomad]

I didn't add a 3DTV for the 360 as MS has yet to announce it and as of yet does not seem to have interest in it outside of some early testing in South Korean markets.

Plus I don't see MS pushing for 3D gaming as much as Sony as MS isn't in the 3D tv market. Sony has more to gain than MS does in terms of pushing the tech.

[Team Andromeda]

I'm quite sure that both Natal/Kinect and Move are going to be JUST as shit as the Wii. But I've taken no interest in either of them... or the Wii.

Missing out on a lot of great games then.

No I haven't I didn't say I haven't played the Wii. I've had one sitting in a box in my room for ages now for when the odd game I can't miss comes out. I just think it's a really shitty console.

At least with the 360 and ps3 the main focus isnt on the waggller. I can still get games that don't try to incorporate that POS.

I still own my Wi, and its the worst gaming console I've owned bar the Jaguar . Its a complete and utter joke for the most part .

[George]

Barry, the competition for Natal or Kinect is not MOVE. it is the Wii and its 199.99. I love how you just added 3DTV to push Natal on everyone. What does this have to do with motion controller?

No one is asking you to buy a 3DTV, it is a free update for owners that already have it and its making 2D games better. So I love it.

That is as bad a Sony sometimes.

360: $299.99
Natal: $180
HDTV: $1,000
5 years of gold: $250
HDMI monster cables: $100
Bluray Player: $200
Wifi adapter: $100

So on, so on. Like I said, this Move and Natal are to take audience away from Wii and I don't think they understand that no one does what Nintendo does better than .... Nintendo.

[Barry the Nomad]

AHHHH!!! Fuck the blu-ray player!!! It's PS2 all over again!!!

I remember back in the Dreamcast days, I was always told that to make a proper comparison I had to add a DVD player to the price of a Dreamcast simply because the PS2 had it. Horrible horrible memories. We're comparing gaming machines, not media centers. Comparing prices for consoles and motion controllers I'm all for, as those contribute directly to gaming. But saying a blu-ray must be added on to the price of a 360 is pure bullshit.

As for these:

360: $299.99 agreed
Natal: $180 pure speculation, in one hour THEN we can make proper numbers
HDTV: $1,000  agreed, though one can find some great deals. I say closer to $800
5 years of gold: $250 bullshit. $34 (amazon price) times 5 = $170
HDMI monster cables: $100 bullshit again. ebay=$15.
Bluray Player: $200see above
Wifi adapter: $100slim version having it built-in could make this irrelevant, but I agree when talking about the standard 360. Even so, ebay=$25-$50

I promise to hold off on unconfirmed PS3 estimates if you stop giving incorrect confirmed 360 estimates.

As for 3DTV, while it is an option, Sony has given 3DTV a HUGE push to the point of it being their ideal PS3 set-up. An option, yes, but a fucking expensive one.

[George]

3DTV is not needed for games. If you have a 3DTV its great, but I don't and don't want one. Microsoft and Sony always push games, does that mean we need every single one?

You don't have 3D on 360. Does it effect you? In your opinion, you need 3-D. Sell your 360. Sorry that logic does not make sense or have anything to do with motion controllers.

[crackdude]

I can't believe you guys don't get that the Xbox isn't about having everything. It's about having what you use.
MY EXAMPLE:
Xbox Arcade + 6 games: 150 euro
used 20gig HD: 20 euro
extra madcatz pro controller: 25 euro
(i don't play online, so no live gold)
(i connect by RJ-45 no need for wifi)
low-end Samsung HDTV: 400 euro
cheap HDMI cable: 10 euro
(bluray player? I download HD movies off the net..I'd use netflix if it was available here)

so in total, with 605 euros I get a new TV, an Xbox, 6 games and 2 controllers.

[Barry the Nomad]

Okay, I'll admit that 3DTV isn't a "must have" to enjoy games, but Sony is really pushing it as the next big thing. Anywho, press show is in 9 mins so all will be revealed soon. Perhaps 360 will reveal 3D? I don't care for 3D, however, so I won't be selling my 360 any time soon.  :mrgreen:

btw, Bentley Jones is rumored to be dead. Spread the news!

[George]

I don't want 3-D. I mean, I know there will be a time where all TVs will have the tech build in and I'm glad my PS3 is a bluray player that is not obsolete and gets free updates for new tech like 3-D.

I'm also glad that Sony doubled the framerate in Super Stardust HD in 2-D in their 3-D update. Not to mention it now runs in full 1080p. Awesome. If 3-D means Sony will make all my 2-D games better, then great.

But this is about motion controllers, not about avatar and James Camron.

[Sega Stylista]

[max_cady]

To be fair, Wii was a very silly name in comparison.

[Sega Uranus]

Pretty much.

Though to be fair, I actually like the 32X a lot, and I thought the Kinect games we saw were pretty alright looking.

THOUGH OBVIOUSLY KINECT ADVENTURES IS A RIPOFF OF WII PLAY EVEN THOUGH WII PLAY DOES NOT HAVE RAFTING OR EVEN ANY LIQUIDS OF ANY KIND!

[Emmett The Crab]

I liked the 32X too.  It was a great way to get an arcade-perfect port of Space Harrier.  I had fun with a lot of the other games on it too, at the time.  The only thing I didn't like was that the games were in cheap cardboard boxes.  Just because something isn't successful doesn't necessarily mean it isn't good.

[George]

Did 32x have 4 fitness games as launch games? NOPE.

List of launch games:
Kinect Adventures (Microsoft Game Studios)
Kinectimals (Frontier Studio/Microsoft Game Studios)
Kinect Joy Ride (Big Park/Microsoft Game Studios)
Kinect Sports (Rare/Microsoft Game Studios)
Dance Central (MTV Games)
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved (Ubisoft)
EA Sports Active 2 (EA)
Deca Sports Freedom (Hudson)
Dance Masters (Konami)
Adrenalin Misfits (Konami)
Zumba Fitness (Majesco)
Sonic Free Riders (Sega)
The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout (THQ)
Motion Sports (Ubisoft)
Game Party: In Motion (Warner Bros.)

Good to see Rare came back with a shovelware title.

[Sega Uranus]

Did 32x have 4 fitness games as launch games? NOPE.

Were workout games popular at all back then? I honestly cannot think of a single game.

Anyways, 15 launch titles with like 10 more announced. That is already more games than the 32X. L O L

SEGA should call up Ed Annunziatta to make Kolibri 2 for Kinect!!

UPDATE: Kinect requires a special adapter to work with old Xbox 360 models. WOOOPS!