After what's been said and shown: PS4 or XBoxone?

[max_cady]

As far E3, my first thought has been pretty much, Playstation 4.

Sony and PS4 were the high points of this showing, even though, Xbox One seemed to have proper exclusives.

However, here's the thing, ever since Microsoft did away with those utopian online restrictions, Sony's major trump now seems to be the fact that it's 100 bucks cheaper.

I don't want the stupid Kinect thingy, that's for sure.

[crackdude]

Sony's major trump now seems to be the fact that it's 100 bucks cheaper.

and it has better specs

[George]

Also has more games to show at Gamescom:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=600766

They have only showed mostly their launch and Infamous Second Son that was suppose to be a launch but moved to launch window (Q1 2014)

[TimmiT]

Sony's major trump now seems to be the fact that it's 100 bucks cheaper.

Also:

-- Free games with the PS+ subscription (it seems unlikely to me that the free games thing on Xbox 360 will carry over to Xbone so soon seeing how cheap the games they're giving away are.)
-- Self-publishing is allowed on PS4, which means it'll probably have a far bigger selection of indie games.
-- Free to play games, for which PS+ isn't needed depending on the game. For example: DC Universe Online and Planetside 2 don't require PS+.
-- They don't force PS+ on you if you want to use things like Netflix, cross game chat, Facebook etc.
-- You also don't need PS+ for online features in games besides multiplayer.
-- It's likely the better system for multi-platform games due to it having better hardware.

[George]

I wonder if this will continue to be a trend, especially now with the new policies.
http://imgur.com/Qm1YB9o

[Happy Cat]

I wonder if this will continue to be a trend, especially now with the new policies.
http://imgur.com/Qm1YB9o

Year of the PlayStation

PS3 hitting it's stride and PS4 selling out pre-orders! Vita? What's that? XD

But yeah, it's obvious Microsoft is going to need to make a Kinectless SKU for $400 if they want to compete this holiday.

[ROJM]

Year of the PlayStation

PS3 hitting it's stride and PS4 selling out pre-orders! Vita? What's that? XD

But yeah, it's obvious Microsoft is going to need to make a Kinectless SKU for $400 if they want to compete this holiday.

What? After pushing that thing down everyone's throats for the last two years? You expect them to make the smart decision and sell an XBO without a Kinect? You will cause panic among the microsoft board with that sensible suggestion.

[pirovash88]

I wonder if this will continue to be a trend, especially now with the new policies.
http://imgur.com/Qm1YB9o

Holy crap that is sad.. I'm sure MS thought once they removed their restrictions that people would go crawling back to em, but that price tag is still gonna effect em. They really do need to remove Kinect from the console in order to compete with Sony.

[George]

Mark Cerny is the man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns21_nMzVFM&feature=youtu.be&t=2m35s I love how he talks about how he started working on arcades etc. He started working at Atari at age 17. Crazy stuff. He says he started to working at SEGA in 1985, saying he left Atari for them and worked on the Master System and Genesis.

Very cool SEGA info.

Also he put a lot of thought into the PS4. He is a great spokesperson. Talk about Sony doing a 180.

[Happy Cat]

oh wow thats a long video! x_X i'll have to watch it later, my attention span is really bad at the moment. Really interested in watching it though. Mark Cerny seems like a really cool guy