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Offline Barry the Nomad

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #390 on: October 30, 2011, 08:03:46 am »
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Offline max_cady

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #391 on: October 31, 2011, 05:28:31 pm »
Well, a load of reviews for SG have come out...

GameInformer decided to be that a**hole who wanted to be different and gave this game a 6.75/10.

Oh, well, at least no negative scores thus far, so that's good.

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #392 on: October 31, 2011, 06:04:30 pm »
Yeah! Looking to be a solid 8.5 game!

Though I'm certain the fan service will push it over the top for me to a 9 and perhaps best Sonic game in the past 10 years.

I'm not reviewing it for SEGAbits, btw. ;)

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #393 on: October 31, 2011, 06:24:23 pm »
Well, a load of reviews for SG have come out...

GameInformer decided to be that a**hole who wanted to be different and gave this game a 6.75/10.

Oh, well, at least no negative scores thus far, so that's good.

What more proof do people need that the critics don't really know what's good or bad about a Sonic game? They see Sonic on the cover, know its the popular opinion to shit on it and do just that.

That's how it has been for years now, the slightest little problem is overblown, even sometimes scores seem to be pulled out of nowhere... IGNs 7/10 for sound? 7/10 my arse.

Then Nintendo puts out a game called Wii Music, where you waggle the controller to make ugly onscreen characters 'play' midi crap and it's so impossible to make any recognisable tune that you get to rate yourself... Some critics gave that shit 8/10....

Woah... That was a rant.
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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #394 on: October 31, 2011, 06:37:15 pm »


GameInformer decided to be that a**hole who wanted to be different and gave this game a 6.75/10.

Oh, well, at least no negative scores thus far, so that's good.

I'm honestly not surprised by GameInformer. They've made it quite clear that have no real love for the franchise unless it's 2D only.

I'm going to Game Stop's midnight release so I'll be able to play the game soon. I'm ecstatic!
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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #395 on: October 31, 2011, 06:41:25 pm »
Woah... That was a rant.

It sure was.

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #396 on: October 31, 2011, 07:21:49 pm »
What more proof do people need that the critics don't really know what's good or bad about a Sonic game? They see Sonic on the cover, know its the popular opinion to shit on it and do just that.

That's how it has been for years now, the slightest little problem is overblown, even sometimes scores seem to be pulled out of nowhere... IGNs 7/10 for sound? 7/10 my arse.

Then Nintendo puts out a game called Wii Music, where you waggle the controller to make ugly onscreen characters 'play' midi crap and it's so impossible to make any recognisable tune that you get to rate yourself... Some critics gave that shit 8/10....

Woah... That was a rant.

This is not really fair unless you know the history of GameInformer.

They have, which you probably did not known, given multiple Nintendo games low scores and not just any, ranging from Paper Mario 2 to Mario & Luigi. It is not because they dislike the games, it is because they believe that those games will not be enjoyable to their audience, this is how they rate the games. A reviewer could enjoy the game tenfolds, however if GameInformer feels that the game will not be enjoyed by a mass audience, then the game will get low marks. Its why a lot of gritty games get high marks from them and low marks for stuff like Sonic, Mario etc. And yes I agree its a bad way to review games, but not fair to bet all reviews with the same brush.

And on the matter of Wii Music, the game did get a few good reviews, but Metacritic puts it at 63 and GameInformer gave the title a 3/10. So it is not like people went wild for that, Sonic Generations will have a significantly better rating than that game. Infact, Sonic Generations has 20 reviews above 8 (With even more coming in) Wii Music only had 9.
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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #397 on: October 31, 2011, 08:32:21 pm »
I do not agree with some of the low scores, however I do think a 77(at which sonic generations stands atm on metacritic) is not a bad thing.

Imho I think sonic generations doesn't deserve TOO much praise as I think that would just make them too confident and convince them less to do alot better in the future, because they still have a long way to go if you ask me. This will only push them more into that direction and i'm sure the sega staff(like aaron webber) are looking at the reviews right now and feeling dissapointed. But I hope they consider it a wake up call instead of raeging against it.

I went from very skeptical to overly hyped for this game myself. I actually ended up pre ordering it straight when it first came on steam and have no regrets about it. What can I say, i'm a fan and the fanservice in this game was enough to have convinced me. This game would have probably even sold itself without the gameplay to me. The extra stuff like music remixes and artworks are things that make this game a mustbuy to every single fan. And i'm sure it will sell well with the great marketing campain SEGA has delivered.

Gameplay wise however you cannot deny that they just simply failed to replicate the classics controls. We've accepted it long ago, but these are the flaws i'm talking about when I feel that this game isn't worth a 9. Unleashed gameplay allthough very well executed in this game, will make it difficult in bringing sonic into the 9's. The formula is just too restricting and I feel a 3d sonic needs alot more variety in it's gameplay, and the mechanics at the moment just don't allow alot of that.

With sonic's reputation they gotta blow away the player with something way more unique. I know it happened to the biased mario hater in me with mario galaxy. My dislike towards the franchise was instantly gone and all it took was a game that was "undeniably" great. Sonic needs something spectecular just like that, even moreso. I really hope they will next game. Gotta wait another 3 years I guess -_-
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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #398 on: October 31, 2011, 11:29:09 pm »
How many of the critics that have given the game less than 8/10 have got to the crucks of the issues in Sonic Generations? The game informer guy surely didn't have a clue. He didn't even touch on any of the 'real' issues. He complained about levels from more modern games, which were simply asthetic.

He complained that Modern Sonic was back, many other critics said that they found Modern Sonic more fun then classic...

Look at how many critics gave Sonic 4 8's and 9's out of 10, why? Because they BELIEVED that the game is what fans wanted. They clearly didn't understand the real issues at all.

There are plenty of signs that these critics don't really understand what makes a Sonic game tick and even more so that they're just scoring the game by what they feel fans want from the series and not the merits of the game.
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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #399 on: November 01, 2011, 02:48:52 am »
So seems like this game is more hot garbage to throw on the pile, guess I won't be buying it.

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin' what?

Seriously though, I don't think I've followed this game at all apart from that time Aki asked me to watch a level from the game, I think it was... I can't even remember. In any event, I don't think I'll buy it. It might be pretty good though, but I just... don't think I would enjoy it for some reason.

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #400 on: November 01, 2011, 02:56:07 am »
Its getting about the same reviews as Colors, which isn't a bad thing. However, I tend to agree with Ryan. The reviews I've read don't really justify the scores at the end. 7/10 for sound seems ridiculous to me.

At the same time, I do agree that sonic needs one hell of a good game. I think galaxy is a good example. I disagree that the problem is it isn't open enough though. I think a free roaming sonic game is a terrible idea. I think they're on the right track; the games just need a bit more polish and to last longer. They've got the formula right from what I can tell. Now improve upon it.

I will say this; I genuinely have some trust in sonic team now. They still aren't up to their pre 2002 level, but they have three games averaging high 7s to low 8s in a row under their belts. That beats the hell out of 2004-2008

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #401 on: November 01, 2011, 05:35:46 am »
Oh yeah, Sonic Team has definitely improved over the last few years. Having said that, i don't think it would be possible for them to get any worse unless they physically started harming people though.

Fingers crossed that Sonic can become a consistently good series again.

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #402 on: November 01, 2011, 05:56:42 am »
Hitting Gamestop at 11:30am, then heading home to play this sucker. I also preordered the collectors edition from Germany, but that wont be here til mid month.

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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #403 on: November 01, 2011, 06:43:49 am »
I'm a few stages in now and I want to say I absolutely love Classic Sonic in the cutscenes. The little guy made me laugh.  ;D
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Re: Sonic Generations General Discussion
« Reply #404 on: November 01, 2011, 06:37:40 pm »
Here's hoping 365games.co.uk ships my copy tommorow or I'll have nothing to play during the upcoming weekend.