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Offline Aki-at

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2012, 05:53:45 am »
Wouldn't surprise me, but I was trying to compare western reception of Bayonetta vs western reception of BD. Will be interesting to see how BD fares in terms of sales when it launches.

Also, I don't think I'll bother with the demo since the game is out next week anyway.

The problem is this, clear and simple, this is Bayonetta's announcement trailer;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzHhPp_dGNU

This is Binary Domain's announcement trailer;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESpL6jbhMM

Right off the bat, you can see Bayonetta leaves an extremely good impression, whilst Binary Domain seems like its trying to hard to appeal to the Western audience, now if this was Binary Domain's announcement trailer;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp1SGtosGI0

The Western reception and hype would have been a whole lot higher.

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2012, 07:24:29 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp1SGtosGI0

The Western reception and hype would have been a whole lot higher.

That is the trailer that SEGA needs to pump out over the next 2 weeks on prime time TV, but you can bet you'll be lucky to see it promoted at all .

Its nothing to do with the game everything to do with SEGA's utterly pathetic PR. I bet most gamers don't even now the game is out next week :(
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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2012, 11:21:22 am »
That is the trailer that SEGA needs to pump out over the next 2 weeks on prime time TV, but you can bet you'll be lucky to see it promoted at all .

Its nothing to do with the game everything to do with SEGA's utterly pathetic PR. I bet most gamers don't even now the game is out next week :(

That was not my point, but I agree with your sentiments. SEGA Europe/America are too busy trying to promote the Aliens brand than focus on an IP that will belong to them forever, it really is frankly, short sighted and highly stupid of them. When the Alien license is taking from them, what are they going to rely on?

But my main point was the terrible teaser trailer killed any hype building straight off the bat, it really was bad and put off even the most die hard Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio fans. SEGA America/Europe were silly to allow that to go through, what were they thinking (Or perhaps they just were not thinking at all)

Badly managed their marketing has been after October, proper shame, I would like to see it become a series too.

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2012, 11:26:10 am »
That is the trailer that SEGA needs to pump out over the next 2 weeks on prime time TV, but you can bet you'll be lucky to see it promoted at all .

Its nothing to do with the game everything to do with SEGA's utterly pathetic PR. I bet most gamers don't even now the game is out next week :(

Hit it in the bullseye as usual,mate. The same exact thing happened with VANQUISH. They came out with an excellent teaser promo trailer and then did absolutly nothing during the weeks when it was released apart from the internet. Getting the gamers on your side is one thing but doing nothing to attract the gamers who don't go on you tube to look at game trailers is another. If they used the first VANQUISH trailer and put that on tv on itv 4 or when some action movie was on, the retail sales for vanquish would have been a lot different.
As for BD, that title did have to build itself and i don't think Sega PR is in charge of this title, i think Nagoshi is doing this himself if YAKUZA PR has anything to go by he essentially directed how that was to be done as well.

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2012, 11:52:09 am »
Very nice demo. I got used to the controls after getting slammed pretty hard, and after adjusting found it pretty fun. The visuals are solid, the voice commands are a nice touch, and the goofy French robot in my squad is quite refreshing. The enemies are a good challenge and seeing them break apart to gunfire is so enjoyable.

As for advertising, I see online ads quite often, especially on XBL. My local Gamestop has a poster at the register... convenient to see when I showed up to make a preorder.



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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2012, 05:50:38 pm »
Oh wow, first comment for the vid Aki posted with the BD Trailer:
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*sigh* I love how people blindly comment without even getting their facts first... This game wasn't MADE by SEGA its was PUBLISHED by them, 2 completely different things. It was produced by the same guy who produced Resonance of Fate and Vanquish, both pretty decent games.


Anyway, I agree first impressions of BD were terrible. I often forget just how terrible that first trailer was for the game. It's really hard for me to gauge the reception of the newer trailers with other gamers too though, since most of my friends are only into COD and FIFA anyway and wouldn't like twice at a game like this.

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2012, 07:36:51 pm »
OK, guys, the only thing that's stopping me from hitting the pre-order button over at DVD.co.uk is this: Based on my track record I've always been a much more 3rd Person action oriented kind of guy, do you think guys think that the game is worth getting brand new at retail price?

First, some actual context, like I stated, I'm a huge 3rd person shooter nut but at the same time, I'm completely oblivious to much of Nagoshi-san works. I never touched a Yakuza nor a Super Monkey Ball game in my life. I loved most of Vanquish, I have Stranglehold and othet similar titles in the shooter category.

So, do you guys think that I'll get my money's worth? Because from where I'm standing this game does seem to have way more meat than your average TPS title, so...

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2012, 06:58:44 am »
Binary Domain is getting a lot of low ratings from Japanese users on Amazon, lots of 1 stars, but wait! Before you think the game is terrible, the main reason is;

- Nagoshi should stop making Western games and focus on Yakuza series
- Why are foreigners the good guys in this game? Why is Japan the villain?!

Though more people seem to be liking it thankfully!

Oh wow, first comment for the vid Aki posted with the BD Trailer:

And in minutes of you saying that, someone replied with;

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What the fuck are you talking about? Binary Domain is made by Toshihiro Nagoshi, an employee of SEGa, the same guy that did Daytona Usa, Yakuza and Super Monkey Ball. Is developed by SEGA. Vanquish, in other hand, is made by the creator of Resident Evil, Shinji Mikami, and was published by SEGA. ROF was not made by none of them. And was published by SEGA. Really, i dont know if you are serious or trolling, must be a troll.

I see we've finally found out who MadeManG is on youtube *rollseyes*

Anyway, I agree first impressions of BD were terrible. I often forget just how terrible that first trailer was for the game. It's really hard for me to gauge the reception of the newer trailers with other gamers too though, since most of my friends are only into COD and FIFA anyway and wouldn't like twice at a game like this.

I think general reception has been pretty good, but the game is sadly not very well known. It could have a lot of good word of mouth, but I fear that used game sales might eat into it's potential userbase in the end, which is pretty sad but what can you do?

(That being said, Vanquish, a complete bomb by SEGA, is still being sold in plenty of game stores, Yakuza 4 too for around £12)

OK, guys, the only thing that's stopping me from hitting the pre-order button over at DVD.co.uk is this: Based on my track record I've always been a much more 3rd Person action oriented kind of guy, do you think guys think that the game is worth getting brand new at retail price?

First, some actual context, like I stated, I'm a huge 3rd person shooter nut but at the same time, I'm completely oblivious to much of Nagoshi-san works. I never touched a Yakuza nor a Super Monkey Ball game in my life. I loved most of Vanquish, I have Stranglehold and othet similar titles in the shooter category.

So, do you guys think that I'll get my money's worth? Because from where I'm standing this game does seem to have way more meat than your average TPS title, so...

You've never played either Yakuza or Monkey Ball? Say whaaaaaaat? You make Aki, Haruka and AiAi cry :(

If you liked Stranglehold you should love Binary Domain, the game is at least ten hours in length I've been told, the consequence system ought to make it worthwhile for multiple playthroughs I suppose and there seems to be a lot of variation in stages, bosses and enemies. From what I have played, this could very well be my favourite third person this generation. That is if the quality is consistent of course!

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2012, 08:57:03 am »
Not playing a Yakuza, I could understand, but Monkey Ball is on just about any device/console! Not that playing Monkey Ball relates in anyway to Binary Domain, but give the game a go just to say you did. The second one for the iPhone is good, so are the Gamecube ones or Deluxe for the original xbox.

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2012, 06:21:43 pm »
I never touched a Yakuza

*Stares disapprovingly*

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2012, 08:04:19 pm »

And in minutes of you saying that, someone replied with;

I see we've finally found out who MadeManG is on youtube *rollseyes*




Actually, that was me lol. I was very angry. Thats not the first time this kinda of thing happens. There is a VC video with more than 100.000 pv on youtube and there was a hater there trying to convince everyone that the only reason why VC is good is because was not made by SEGA, only published. And people believed, they dont go see if the information is correct or not.

 


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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2012, 01:57:15 am »
Gotta love neogaf


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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2012, 03:57:44 am »
Just beat the game! Gonna try to write an indepth review later, but here's my quick impressions from twitter

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Finally beat Binary Domain, Wow... been long time since I played such well-paced shooter, my quick review (pros/cons):

Good: Amazing shooting mechanics, Boss Battles that shame every other shooter, Great Story, Aggresive foes, Great Progression.

Bad: A bit too many chase/on-rail sections, very easy on normal (Abundance of medikets, enemies are aggressive), AI can get bugged often

Game is about 9 hours long, with good replay value, I'm amazed that RGG studio can make such glorious TPS at first attempt

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2012, 04:26:57 am »
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Binary Domain is getting a lot of low ratings from Japanese users on Amazon, lots of 1 stars, but wait! Before you think the game is terrible, the main reason is;

- Nagoshi should stop making Western games and focus on Yakuza series
- Why are foreigners the good guys in this game? Why is Japan the villain?!

Though more people seem to be liking it thankfully!


Well they obviously haven't played the game if they are saying that. I mean Nagoshi hasn't made a western title for nearly a decade. I'd take those comments with a pinch of salt.



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I think general reception has been pretty good, but the game is sadly not very well known. It could have a lot of good word of mouth, but I fear that used game sales might eat into it's potential userbase in the end, which is pretty sad but what can you do?

Well this is where Sega's PR has to do their job.... or get sacked.

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(That being said, Vanquish, a complete bomb by SEGA, is still being sold in plenty of game stores, Yakuza 4 too for around £12)

Depends, its considered a success shipping wise, a sequel could happen,especially if the rumours about ROF are true and that didn't sell as many as VANQUISH did.

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*sigh* I love how people blindly comment without even getting their facts first... This game wasn't MADE by SEGA its was PUBLISHED by them, 2 completely different things. It was produced by the same guy who produced Resonance of Fate and Vanquish, both pretty decent games.

I don't totally dig this comment. ROF, VANQUISH while developed by different companies were still developed using cash supplied by Sega so i wouldn't call these games sega published as they are in reality Sega second party software. THE CONDUIT is Sega published because Sega doesn't own and didn't put cash(not much cash) into the creation of the title. As for the producer, he only really served as the producer for the localisations.



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If you liked Stranglehold you should love Binary Domain, the game is at least ten hours in length I've been told, the consequence system ought to make it worthwhile for multiple playthroughs I suppose and there seems to be a lot of variation in stages, bosses and enemies. From what I have played, this could very well be my favourite third person this generation. That is if the quality is consistent of course!

I'd concur, after this title, ALIENS CM has to really pull something out of the bag because from what i've seen it looks generic, the graphics are too much like rebellion's ALIENS VS PREDATOR, the gameplay doesn't offer anything new and the designs are rubbish. The one thing that will save it is the Wii U version. But after VANQUISH and BD, generic isn't good enough.

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Re: Binary Domain Demo impressions (Available now on JP Store)
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2012, 07:34:50 pm »
*Stares disapprovingly*

I spilled beer all over my laptop when I saw this post.

@Aki-at

Is that so? Well then count me in for Binary Domain when it launches.