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Offline Aki-at

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2015, 03:59:35 am »
I'm quite amazed this topic was posted in 2012,  a year which I felt was SEGA's strongest as a third party. Could swear this topic was posted in 2013.

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2015, 08:20:10 am »
I feel that people look at this question in different ways. Like, I look at it as a compounded thing. I loved the Genesis years, the Saturn years were a mystery for me that I only got into in the late 90s/early 00s which made me have this sort of new appreciation for the era, I totally loved the Dreamcast years, and the early third party years. Right there is this huge amount of respect and fandom for SEGA. Anything they did from then on does not diminish those years for me. While the mid 00s were murky, 2010 was one of my favorite years and since then it has had its ups and downs but I am still a huge fan thanks to their past and the occasional great games.

I guess the question should be "Are you a fan of the current SEGA?". And my answer to that is, I wasn't so much, but with all these changes as of recent I am optimistic about the future and am very interested to see what the rest of 2015 brings.

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2015, 08:20:38 am »
I'm quite amazed this topic was posted in 2012,  a year which I felt was SEGA's strongest as a third party. Could swear this topic was posted in 2013.

I did point out that I was still looking forward to games, but:
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Having said that, almost everything bad I can think of is cancelled out by games like Yakuza 5 and Rome 2 Total War, which are probably my most anticipated games at the moment.

OUCH.
Still fucking waiting for Y5 (and it took Sony to translate it, not Sega) and Rome 2 was poo on a stick.

What else came out in 2012? This was probably just the beginning of Sega being Freemium App: The Publisher which caused me to create the thread.

Also Berto, not that I'm mad, but you probably could have made a new thread instead of bringing this one back from the dead. Might be a good idea actually since Sega making mobile games has been a hot topic recently.

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2015, 09:28:07 am »
u mad?
SEG4GES

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2015, 10:11:54 am »

Offline Aki-at

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2015, 10:44:07 am »
What else came out in 2012? This was probably just the beginning of Sega being Freemium App: The Publisher which caused me to create the thread.

In terms of ports we had:

Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure 2, NiGHTS,  The House of the Dead 3 and 4 and of course, Virtual Fighter 5: Final Showdown. The Sonic CD and Sonic the Hedgehog remasters came out this year.

New games released we had Yakuza 5, Phantasy Star Online 2, Hell Yeah! Binary Domain and Sonic and All stars Racing Transformed off the top of my head.

Don't get me wrong that your assessment is fine but it seemed strange that it got posted towards the end of what was a relatively great year for games announced or released. I'd see more weight in 2013 or 2014 with a topic like this.

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2015, 11:00:19 am »
In terms of ports we had:

Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure 2, NiGHTS,  The House of the Dead 3 and 4 and of course, Virtual Fighter 5: Final Showdown. The Sonic CD and Sonic the Hedgehog remasters came out this year.

New games released we had Yakuza 5, Phantasy Star Online 2, Hell Yeah! Binary Domain and Sonic and All stars Racing Transformed off the top of my head.

Don't get me wrong that your assessment is fine but it seemed strange that it got posted towards the end of what was a relatively great year for games announced or released. I'd see more weight in 2013 or 2014 with a topic like this.

Don't forget this is me posting. I thought Hell Yeah looked like garbage and SASASR was Blue Mario Kart. I also probably thought Yakuza 5 and PSO2 would never EVER get translated (this one has kind of come true if it weren't for Sony fishing for brownie points).

I also acknowledged JSR port as a highlight as well as other games on the list.

Also years later we can now look at ports of old games as 'HOLY SHIT BEST THING EVER BASED SEGA', but maybe that's because we are so used to FREEMIUM APP Sega that it seems much better now than it did three years ago when it was just 'Kinda cool, I guess'.


I think the main trigger point was always Sega dumping Bayonetta 2 and Nintendo saving it. It's happened again with Sony.


Nintendoes what Sega won't? :afroman: :afroman: :afroman: :afroman:
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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2015, 01:04:17 pm »
2015 will the best year for SEGA, as evident when trying to visit sega.com and seeing the words: "The connection has timed out. The server at www.sega.com is taking too long to respond."

I hope they relaunch the site with something nifty, instead of the usual degradation of SEGA's history. That's where they only acknowledge the most recent releases and force people to rely on wikipedia to remember what great franchises SEGA used to make for classic systems. I wouldn't be surprised if they omitted Wii, PS3, and X360 games from their own catalog.

Other than Tembo and Yakuza 5 (it took 3 years?), I'm completely in the dark about what else they're releasing this year or next. Sad face. :(



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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2015, 01:33:53 pm »
2015 will the best year for SEGA, as evident when trying to visit sega.com and seeing the words: "The connection has timed out. The server at www.sega.com is taking too long to respond."

I hope they relaunch the site with something nifty, instead of the usual degradation of SEGA's history. That's where they only acknowledge the most recent releases and force people to rely on wikipedia to remember what great franchises SEGA used to make for classic systems. I wouldn't be surprised if they omitted Wii, PS3, and X360 games from their own catalog.

Other than Tembo and Yakuza 5 (it took 3 years?), I'm completely in the dark about what else they're releasing this year or next. Sad face. :(

Sega's japanese site is fantastic

Their products page truly show the strengh of Sega on the arcade side, with tons of products. Then their strong distrubution network in Japan and their variety of titles.

And the archive page is great too, documenting all games and accesories on their hardware.
http://sega.jp/fb/segahard/

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2015, 07:00:09 pm »
Don't forget this is me posting. I thought Hell Yeah looked like garbage and SASASR was Blue Mario Kart. I also probably thought Yakuza 5 and PSO2 would never EVER get translated (this one has kind of come true if it weren't for Sony fishing for brownie points).

I also acknowledged JSR port as a highlight as well as other games on the list.

Also years later we can now look at ports of old games as 'HOLY SHIT BEST THING EVER BASED SEGA', but maybe that's because we are so used to FREEMIUM APP Sega that it seems much better now than it did three years ago when it was just 'Kinda cool, I guess'.


I think the main trigger point was always Sega dumping Bayonetta 2 and Nintendo saving it. It's happened again with Sony.


Nintendoes what Sega won't? :afroman: :afroman: :afroman: :afroman:

Well for one we knew PSO2 was coming to the West in 2012 before SEGA decided that it'd be smart to invest PSO2 localisation budget on Gearbox's latest get rich scheme. Though I can see where you are coming from Hell Yeah (Although a capable platformer, it does miss the mark) it wasn't an extensive list. Here's a breakdown of all their titles;

New Games (Core)
- Rhythm Thief
- Binary Domain
- Total War: Shogun 2 - Fall of the Samurai
- Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2
- Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz
- Phantasy Star Online 2
- Anarchy Reigns
- Hell Yeah!
- Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed
- Yakuza 5

New Games (Mobile)
- Total War: Battles
- Virtua Tennis: Challenge
- JACK LUMBER GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION IGN 10/10
- Zaxxon Escape

Ports
- Sonic the Hedgehog 1/CD
- Crazy Taxi (mobile)
- The House of the Dead 3 & 4
- Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown
- Monster World IV
- Jet Set Radio
- NiGHTS
- Sonic Adventure 2: Battle

To me, between Binary Domain, Yakuza 5 and Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown, it's hard not to say SEGA didn't have a good year. When you throw in the announcement of Phantasy Star Online 2 and the quality of Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed, 2012 was a really great year for SEGA I felt, some poor titles but overall very good.

I disagree about the ports bits though. I was excited about The House of the Dead 3/4 getting a console release for PS3 and I was damned excited for Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown. This was the first Western release for Monster Land IV too, I don't look back at it and think how good 2012 was from *now* I was thinking in 2012 how awesome the year was for SEGA. (Also as someone that likes FREEIMUM APP SEGA I do not see how this would effect me :3 )

Like I said, the future assessment was mostly true but it'd be like striking at something that performed better than they ever did but had a slightly gloomy future. At the time Sonic was on an upswing, SEGA announced localisation of major Japanese titles and had a hotly anticipated sequel to Total War lined up, it all bellied up in the following year but 2012 was a great year. Only 2002 beats it in the third party era and 2003 is probably on par.

And now, Nintendo does what SEGA does, ignore any plans on making a Bayonetta 3 :3 :3 :3 :3

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2015, 08:10:31 am »
I forgot Jack Lumber came out that year. That explains everything.

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2015, 09:41:15 am »
wow time flies..

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2015, 09:47:48 am »
wow time flies..

Berto missed the followup topic:
http://segabits.com/forums/index.php?topic=2592.msg56596#msg56596

In which Barry says Sonic: Lost World is his most anticipated game in the franchise since SA2.

If Barry is reading this, did it live up to the hype? I heard next to nothing about that game, probably because it's Wii U Exclusive.

Offline Barry the Nomad

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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2015, 10:07:56 am »
I didn't like it as much as Generations, but I still liked it. I will never ever join the bandwagon that lumps it with recent failures of the franchise. Lost World had its share of issues, but I still think its a good game.

I actually wrote the review for it, giving it a B+: http://segabits.com/blog/2013/11/15/review-sonic-lost-world-wii-u/

I really liked the controls, oddly enough, however my one major complaint is that they had this parkour system in place that was a lot of fun when mastered... but they rarely used it. Its like if JSRF had never featured stages that required players to utilize the grinding feature to the full extent, or Just Cause 2 never really gave you a reason to use the grappling hook.



I liked that it didn't have as many filler stages as Colors did, and the later Nintendo and NiGHTS additions were fun fan service. The balloon pop bonus stage was kind of stupid.
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Re: Do you still like Sega?
« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2015, 06:41:48 pm »
As for old IPs, SEGA has a plan on bringing them back and I hope it goes well. Personally I think a lot can go wrong...

http://segabits.com/blog/2014/12/11/sega-planning-development-of-tv-and-film-adaptations-of-video-game-properties/

Basically don't see how Golden Axe can work as a TV show without 'kiddiefying' it with stylist violence and Sonic Boom type humor.

I feel it could work for Golden Axe. Personally think Altered Beast should just be left in the graveyard (IMO) unless they use characters in a Golden Axe cartoon. I thought All-Stars Racing did a good job with the Gilius model:

Gilius in Allstars:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/goldenaxe/images/6/64/Gilius-thunderhead.png/revision/latest?cb=20130118112638

vs

his concept artwork for Golden Axe :
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--JFw-RutI--/181nzhclpq1tcjpg.jpg