I don't know what is going on right here, but something is for sure: They tried to do exactly what you are claiming and they failed. Even with marketing and publicity in every single magazine at that time.
I'm not sure is people trying to forget that even with ports of Nights and JSR, which they are supposedly "cult games" that everyone supported back in the day and now, people didn't buy those games. Even with facebook campaings , PR videos, PS+ and Live special prices, etc. Only SA2.
And you will say that is because poor marketing or people already have the game, come on...if you want something from an especific thing, make sure that you supported the most essential thing: buy the stuff. This is how it works IMO. Poor marketing isn't even an excuse anymore when you will find mostly anything with the internet and social networks.
Please, Sega isn't a "Capcom Ride" where they publish a tons of sequels, ports, re-release with high R&D but low, very low earnings even with good sales and pushing forward every single IP with a little but dangerous sucess. Megaman is an example or pushing forward every single idea and game but also generating more negatives than positives .
Thank you. I'm glad some people aren't fooled by TA's desperate attempts to get brownie points after being whipped good by a few forum members in a recent debate.
Let's look at the reality huh..
If you look at how TA is demanding great sega games you'd think sega had ALWAYS produced the games people wanted on a regular basis.
Well no they didn't. If we look at the console divison and look at the years after the Megadrive to the DC...there was only a HANDFUL of sega games on the saturn that were any good and people wanterd to play. Acting like this is the worse period of sega gaming when we have just seen one of the best line ups any game publisher has had in the last several years is poppycock.
And before we bring up japan..not many western sega fans are intrested in playing heavy japancentric games To many sega fans the saturn was the WORST period odf sega gaming you can get for a console.
I compare that period to their third party period. Similar that there's only been a handful of bonafide sega games released that people had wanted to play from sega themselves. Unlike that period however we have had a proper Sonic title something that the saturn was unable to give out, a bonafide version of SHINOBI another thing that the saturn never gave us(and i like SHINOBI LEGIONS) among other things.
Also notice that the best Sega games he's using are ALL exclusive titles. Make no mistake the best Sega games since sega has been a third party have been titles that have remained on one platform. Like it or not Sega strength has always been as a one platform developer. That is what they were schooled in for years and that's what they still good at. ORTA, YAKUZA, VALKRIA and SONIC COLORS were the best of the bunch from sega with amazing visuals and good round game play. While BD another game i like just looked visually unappealing.
Regardless Sega great games come in bursts...never in a long succsion of grat game after great game. That has always ben the case. The MD and the DC are beloved by sega fans because they happened to have the great bursts of sega gaming that we all experienced. The saturn definatly didn't. And the master system surely didn't when you take the great games sega had in the arcades at that time it weren't that many.
So let's stop living in a fantasy and start looking at the reality.
I agree that we need more SEGA games but lets be fair, sometimes is the fans responsability to show some support. Can we please stop blaiming the companies for everything? (I am talking in general), sometimes is not only a poor marketing work (Because yeah we fans know A LOT about how marketing works...) or it is because the game takes to long to get localize, sometimes is that stupid phrase "If it is not retail and in my mother lenguage (Despite i know english...) i will not buy it" or that other one "50$ for a game! (Despite is a AAA title) are you crazy!? go to hell! i will buy it when it gets a discount" which obviously it doesnt help that much to the company... or my favorite "This game is a piece of shit! dont buy it! (The guy never play it and he is saying this...) and then the studio that developed have to suffer just because of what a group of idiots said or because a bad gaming website said in a totally unobjective review...
I had said this before, sometimes the companies make mistakes and sometimes the fans does, in this industry there are two parts, the consumers and the companies and if we want things to work out we have to work together, for example i never heard that much of support to the yakuza franchise until we know that yakuza 5 would not be localize, and now ALL THE GAMERS want it?, cmon...
Another example is the resident evil remake HD that just got announced, you want a surviver horror game, that remake was never avalible for a non nintendo consoles so in my opinion not everybody have it, (I know people that they didnt even know that a remake of RE1 was made...) the game is true surviver horror like "everybody" wants and now... you are complaining...
This are just a few examples, i had seen this bullshit A LOT of times, games that i really liked and i never get a sequel because what a group of idiots said and at this point a know that this will never stop, so why bother... after all is much easy to blame the others...
I said the same thing in another forum where me Sharky and TA use to frequent. They kept saying sega sucks and were not getting the games we want. When sega releases the game they want..guess what? They didn't buy it. And that's been the pattern for all these haters that keep blowing sega. Sega SAID in a magazine interview concerning ORTA that if that game made its budget back then a RPG version might be in the works...guess what..not many people brought it. And then they have the audacity to complain about sega releasing games they don't want because they didn't buy the games they said they wanted to play.
Of course it didn't stop some people around here to start spinning the fact that sega did well on the xbox when they never did and then wonder why sega couldn't be bothered to support the 360 properly.
The sad reality is there isn't that many sega gamers around anymore. Each succesive system from the MD the audience shrank. And the audience just went after DC. Were assuming that people who were sega gamers just kept playing games. Well they obviously didn't. Most of them quit. If you were a sega gamer and used to buying sega systems only and then found out sega was not only going to support your system but pull out of consoles altogether..to many that would have been the last straw especially from what happened with the saturn.
The reason why Sega DNA games don't do well is because there is not enough sega fans to support them.
Sega duid not maintain the community of sega gamers it had managed to build over the years. Many of them stopped playing games or stuck to arcades with all the console failures and definatly a big core group didn't return to gaming after DC. Since then all sega has been doing is building fans of individual game IP. Sonic is a good example. Most people who buy into sonic aren't necessarly fans of sega or would purchase a sega game. The same goes for anyone playing TOTAL WAR or FOOTBALL MANAGER. The majority may not buy another sega product. The same happens in japan with other titles like VIRTUA FIGHTER to SHINING FORCE. Sega is good at getting a mas audience for individual games but they haven't built that audience to get t hem to become SEGA gamers. So you have a werid situation where people are buying certain franchises in doses but wouldn't buy a core Sega game. So while KINGDOM CONQUEST makes plenty of moolah..none of those guys would buy VALYKRIA in their droves. Its prehaps the reason why PHANTASY STAR is so far away from its sega core roots and found a footing with people into social gaming that would buy it in spades.
So unless sega can get these did when they only had one system..the type of sega games we want won't be made any more or turn into something different...
