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Offline Team Andromeda

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2014, 02:07:32 am »
I dont play games on phones, so this is not good news for me.

Its shit mate . Sammy is fast killing SEGA and SEGA Japan is just SEGA only in name . I can't see why SEGA Japan can't both have a great consumer division and a separate mobile phone division and each share IP and games . That said I'm sort of over ever hoping SEGA will return and delight me with games and amazing tech and getting people talking and looking forward to SEGA Japan games again on the consoles  . If they make a great game then  good, if they don't they it's no shock and what I just expect these days

Pachinko killed Technosoft, killed SNK and is fast killing SEGA Japan :(
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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2014, 06:29:32 am »
Its shit mate . Sammy is fast killing SEGA and SEGA Japan is just SEGA only in name . I can't see why SEGA Japan can't both have a great consumer division and a separate mobile phone division and each share IP and games . That said I'm sort of over ever hoping SEGA will return and delight me with games and amazing tech and getting people talking and looking forward to SEGA Japan games again on the consoles  . If they make a great game then  good, if they don't they it's no shock and what I just expect these days

Pachinko killed Technosoft, killed SNK and is fast killing SEGA Japan :(

The guys off his meds again...call the medics..QUICK!!

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2014, 06:58:46 am »
I wonder how long the arcade division will last. I want Virtua Fighter dammit! And I don't mean Combo Mania or whatever it was released for phones.

It's been shrinking every year and now we learn they're moving developers from this division to mobile where they're enjoying massive success.

I agree with Joe that it'll last a while longer but the long term future isn't bright. The Japanese market is bigger than ever, it's just 50% of that segment is all mobile. If I recall correctly Japan has the biggest smartphone gaming industry, or just behind the United States so I fully expect unless console games by SEGA aren't vanity projects (Yakuza) cheap (Puyo) or successful in the West/Japan (Sonic, Miku, Phantasy Star) this is the end game for SEGA Japan.

That being said they clearly have plans to stay in the console space/PC gaming shown by the purchase of Atlus, Relic et all.

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2014, 07:06:41 am »
It's been shrinking every year and now we learn they're moving developers from this division to mobile where they're enjoying massive success.

I agree with Joe that it'll last a while longer but the long term future isn't bright. The Japanese market is bigger than ever, it's just 50% of that segment is all mobile. If I recall correctly Japan has the biggest smartphone gaming industry, or just behind the United States so I fully expect unless console games by SEGA aren't vanity projects (Yakuza) cheap (Puyo) or successful in the West/Japan (Sonic, Miku, Phantasy Star) this is the end game for SEGA Japan.

That being said they clearly have plans to stay in the console space/PC gaming shown by the purchase of Atlus, Relic et all.

It will last because they're trying to make inroads into China..within 10 years if the chinese economy holds up and their middle class gets bigger you will probably see the signs of a big arcade market in China. Sega already has a lead into that market..all that remains is if the market grows enough for them to make real profit.

As for consoles, Yeah they do but Atlus doesn't do expensive projects and Relic's main games are still PC even with WARHAMMER. And these peeps aren't just the games a Sega fan wants. They still need an SOJ console fix and that doesn't seem to be forthcoming..

And you really think YAKUZA is a vanity project?

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2014, 07:16:03 am »
The guys off his meds again...call the medics..QUICK!!

Please stop it with the SEGA defence force nonsense and open your eye's to what happing with SEGA Japan. A corps that is fast becoming totally irrelevant to most console players and even in the Arcades SEGA Japan isn't what it once was. You keep on talking about money and profits who cares about that here  really . What most people want is SEGA Japan making the games we love to play and look forward to and I put to you that's not Mobile games

GameArts I gather still make money, not that anyone cares anymore and they've become a totally irrelevant to most people (who once loved them and I include myself in that)
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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2014, 07:35:22 am »
Please stop it with the SEGA defence force nonsense and open your eye's to what happing with SEGA Japan. A corps that is fast becoming totally irrelevant to most console players and even in the Arcades SEGA Japan isn't what it once was. You keep on talking about money and profits who cares about that here  really . What most people want is SEGA Japan making the games we love to play and look forward to and I put to you that's not Mobile games

Yawn....if you look into my posts you have seen that i have said that as well. What i don't do however is try to blame one side over the other. Sega's situation is not down to Sammy alone. Sega has a large part to play in it. The money comment is relevant especially since you kept saying for a long time that they weren't making any money. And the fact that they are and still one o the big companies in japan means that they are in a more healthier position than many of the companies you keep saying that they should follow. And you have been spouting this multi engine multi platform talk way before Sega joined with Sammy. Sega didn't go full tilt with it then and they haven't now. So that again proves that its more SOJ management not doing what you want them to do rather than Sammy. And for you're info...sammy has no direct influence over sega..its another company. Its Segasammy the parent company that would have the influence and they usually allocate the individual company budgets without directly interfering in the day to day running of the companies that they own. Instead of knee jerk reaction and posting walls of text blaming everyone except SOJ maybe you should stop your Sega japan defense and sammy bashing and look at the reality of the situation. But you won't will you....

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2014, 07:54:57 am »
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And the fact that they are and still one o the big companies in japan means that they are in a more healthier position than many of the companies you keep saying that they should follow.


For what to make more Mobile games and more games on the cheap . That's to me is not SEGA at all .


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Instead of knee jerk reaction and posting walls of text blaming everyone except SOJ


Sammy I would gather appointed and approve every members of the SEGA board and agree and set SEGA's  funding and the direction of the corp . So to make out this at all to do with Sammy is just a bit much . Next you be saying Murdoch doesn't have the major say on what Fox get up too or his other various off shots.


Still if you're happy seeing SEGA Japan become a top class mobile phone developer then good for you . 


 
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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2014, 08:12:40 am »

For what to make more Mobile games and more games on the cheap . That's to me is not SEGA at all .
Its called business.


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Still if you're happy seeing SEGA Japan become a top class mobile phone developer then good for you . 

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So to make out this at all to do with Sammy is just a bit much .

Finally you agree with me. That's the end of the discussion as far as i'm concerned.

 


 
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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2014, 09:15:06 am »

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Its called business.


I call it the death of SEGA Japan myself . Sammy are killing SEGA Japan and its clear to see .

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2014, 03:01:06 pm »
....You think that and leave the rest of us to deal with reality.

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2014, 03:11:37 am »
....You think that and leave the rest of us to deal with reality.

Well answer me this then . What games you looking forward to from SEGA Japan and what are your hopes for SEGA Japan over the next year or so . If all you can do is highlight mobile games and profits I'll say its a  pretty sad reflection of SEGA Japan .
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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2014, 05:56:48 am »
TA you can read all my recent posts on this matter. Stop trying to turn this into a personal war between you and me when there really isn't one. Everyone else KNOWS my stance on digital..you can even read it from the beginning of the thread. Sometimes you just seem to enjoy arguing with people for the f'ng sake of the argument.

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2014, 07:47:48 am »
It's not any war .

I'm asking you a basic easy question or questions. What are your hopes and what games are you looking forward too, from SEGA Japan this and next year ? .



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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2014, 08:06:51 am »
How old are you 12? I already stated my opinions on this matter clearly. All you are trying to do is create an argument out of it. Check the thread..even the majority of my posts and you know exactly where my feelings on this matter is. The difference is i can separate my emotions from the reality of corporate business. That is why i don't go around saying things people want to hear in order to boost my popularity and create flame wars. I don't need to go around blaming things on others when the blame doesn't soley blame on them. Just because you can't separate the facts from what you want them to be doesn't mean you are correct or anyone who defends the reality of the situation is a FAN of that situation. For gods sake stop trying to score points and get with the program of the facts and reality. Not how you want to see them and blame everyone else for the reason its not happening. This petty score pointing is really becoming stupid on you're part.

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Re: Sega to increase mobile games operations...
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2014, 11:16:40 am »
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I already stated my opinions on this matter clearly


Well answer it again then . What are your hopes and what games are you looking forward to from SEGA Japan this year and next year , they're very easy and basic questions .


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