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Offline crackdude

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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2010, 12:36:21 pm »
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Didn't say it was a good thing, but that is why it sells better.
I understood that.
I guess the fact that by compairson VF sells less than it used to is because the hardcore market isn't the most profitable as it used to be.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2010, 01:59:37 pm »
In a way, it's sort of like the novelty has worn off for 3D fighters. They seemed so cool to those of us living back in the 90's, but now there's nothing impressive about a fighting game with 3D graphics. It's like a short time fad that came and went.

I have a feeling that a lot of kids today who have always had 3D graphics would take one look at Virtua Fighter and say "What is this boring crap? Meh, I'm going back to Smash Bros."
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2010, 05:18:34 pm »
I think a home release of Final Showdown would do better than the older releases of VF5.  The install base of the PS3 is much, much larger now than it was near launch, and there is a pretty high interest in fighters in general lately (SSFIV as an example)
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2010, 07:11:04 pm »
Yeah, maybe. But SEGA would absolutely have to get the word out, which they're not too good at doing.

You know... another problem for North America is that not as many people have old memories of Virtua Fighter games due to SEGA's lack of console success in its first major releases (VF 1, 2, and 3tb, plus Kids). So they couldn't even hope to appeal to nostalgia in the NA region as much as the Street Fighter series could.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2010, 10:50:00 pm »
The key wouldn't be so much in conventional advertising, so much as getting an internet buzz going.
Get some big name game journalists (IGN, Kotaku, G4, etc...), plus game reps from major news sites/tech blogs, to give the new game a hands on. Some glowing writeups, some trending topics on twitter, excess of "likes" on facebook......
Use all these social networks to their advantage.

The key is knowing the audience they're going for.  Virtua Fighter isn't for everybody, so don't market it to everybody.  It's the most advanced 3D fighter out there.  Work that angle.  Go for the core gamer that plays fighting games.  Convince them that if they don't have Virtua Fighter, they're behind the times.
Genesis does what Nintendon't and all that.

If that core audience is hooked, word of mouth will get the attention of others.
Hell, look at what Call of Duty's become in a few years (Activision politics aside, the game's a phenomenon).  Granted, that's a shooter, wich seems to be to this generation what platformers were to 16 bit, and JRPGs were to 32-bit eras, but still.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2010, 11:03:03 pm »
^Thats why I was thinking Sega shold be supporting it heavily in tournaments and arcades. Virtua Fighter is the official fighter for World Cyber Games, but EVO doesn't have an official VF tournament and neither does Major League Gaming.

It wouldn't cost much (relatively) for Sega to do some PR to sponsor VF5 at Las Vegas for EVO this year or next and offer a decent prize to tournament winners, but I think it would improve the image greatly.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2010, 11:24:00 pm »
Sega needs to invent a time machine to go back to the mid 90's.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2010, 12:57:14 am »
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^Thats why I was thinking Sega shold be supporting it heavily in tournaments and arcades. Virtua Fighter is the official fighter for World Cyber Games, but EVO doesn't have an official VF tournament and neither does Major League Gaming.

It wouldn't cost much (relatively) for Sega to do some PR to sponsor VF5 at Las Vegas for EVO this year or next and offer a decent prize to tournament winners, but I think it would improve the image greatly.

Agreed
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2010, 05:15:58 am »
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^Thats why I was thinking Sega shold be supporting it heavily in tournaments and arcades. Virtua Fighter is the official fighter for World Cyber Games, but EVO doesn't have an official VF tournament and neither does Major League Gaming.

It wouldn't cost much (relatively) for Sega to do some PR to sponsor VF5 at Las Vegas for EVO this year or next and offer a decent prize to tournament winners, but I think it would improve the image greatly.

Those are good and nice ideas, but you need a game to back it up . I think its too late for VF5, but if SEGA were to make a VF 6 or Megamix II, and use your ideas as well, and make full use of VF.Net for the home  , it could work .
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2010, 05:56:20 am »
^I was thinking of Final Showdown when/if that gets a console release. I would do something similar to KOFXIII's release where they announced it would be an official tournament game at 'Super Battle Opera' the day it was announced.

Sega could announce VF5FS will have a sponsored tournament at EVO/MLG/SBO etc the day it's announced for consoles.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2010, 06:03:53 am »
SEGA did this for AVP, do tournaments for it. The game did 1.69 million.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2010, 06:35:58 am »
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^I was thinking of Final Showdown when/if that gets a console release. I would do something similar to KOFXIII's release where they announced it would be an official tournament game at 'Super Battle Opera' the day it was announced.

Sega could announce VF5FS will have a sponsored tournament at EVO/MLG/SBO etc the day it's announced for consoles.


I know what you're saying, but lets face it VF 5 is dead in the west now , noone really cares for it , and I'm not sure SEGA even bothered to bring the game to the West inthe Arcades . SEGA really needs to make a console exclusive VF , making full use of next gen graphics and Online modes , and then can build a Tournament behind that.

I don't see much point in having a Tournament to a game that as sold poor in the west , be it on 360 or PS3 . Much better to focus on a new VF imo .
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2010, 12:26:53 pm »
I wish Shenmue had been a sucsess becuase I could see them adding side stories to the VF games maybe in stand alone games or maybe attached to the fighter using the Shenmue engine. Telling the stories of each fighter.

I would buy 10 of each...
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2010, 12:38:06 pm »
I wish Shenmue had been a major success because I am fucking crazy enough to want to play all of the 17 or 18 original chapters planned separately. The second game was just about being on the boat, fuck that is so awesome.
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Re: What does Virtua Fighter need to sell in the west?
« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2010, 01:10:07 pm »
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The second game was just about being on the boat, fuck that is so awesome.
Sounds boring.

Par for the course?
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