Phantasy Star Online 2 announced!

[George]

I do not mind the camparing, I like to know that I'm buying a good version of the game.

Fuck about servers. How about this. Every fucking console/PC has their own server, PSO2 ID can be used on more than one console.

Say I play on PC, I can bring all my info, character, to the PSO2 game on 360 and then to PS3.

If they all can't play nice, at least allow this. No?

[Happy Cat]

It won't work that way unless Microsoft would allow it to.

on PSU all your character data is tied to your XBOX Live gamertag.

If you are gonna do that then you might as well have unified servers.  They are both basically leading down to the one thing Microsoft won't allow.  Communication with non-proprietary servers.

Did you know Microsoft gets a nice chunk of the PSU monthly fee on 360 even though they don't run the servers? That's probably the main reason they don't want games sharing servers with other platforms.

I see XBOX 360 limiting a game like PSO2.  Microsoft hates free content updates, and PSO2 is gonna have tons of those if PSOBB is anything to go by.

[George]

Not really, all SEGA will have to do is make a copy of your same character and pull up data (what xp you have, weapons etc) and synch it with the other servers.

[Happy Cat]

I don't think it would be that easy... -.- lol
The 360 PSU servers don't use a SEGA ID because that would be considered communication with outside servers.

Everything on the 360 PSU servers is handled by XBOX Live and Microsoft.  Thats why to cancel your PSU subscription on 360 you have to call Microsoft.

[Barry the Nomad]

on/off topic: I hated how you couldn't copy certain DC files, such as PSO saves. Back then it made sense I guess, but now I have the files stuck on the VMU. It's either keep it or delete it, no way to move it to another VMU.

I'd love the idea of using the same file between platforms with PSO2, though I'd bet copying of files would be an issue.

Now I only wish they found a way to transfer PSO saves to PSO2.

[Max B]

This is amazing news! I really hope there are global servers.

[Sieghardt]

I dont think there's any technical reason why the servers cant be combined, FF11 and a few other games did it

[George]

FFXI did, but Microsoft is not letting FF14. So, who knows. Policy changes?

[Happy Cat]

I never said it wasn't technically possible.  Of course it's possible.  but only if Microsoft allows it... that is, if 360 is even being considered for PSO2 =P

I just think the whole idea of transferring characters between servers is well.. stupid =P

If they were going to do that then they might as well just have unified servers.  It's almost the same thing, except with George's idea you wouldn't be able to play with people on other platforms.

now if it was his idea, and it was setup like PSU is setup  PC/PS3   and the 360 on their own servers, then I could see that character transfer idea working...

but each SKU having their own server? -.- sounds like a waste.

[George]

Yeah, we should pay monthly if we want to play on 360. Sounds like the best way.

But you don't understand, if MS says know to unified server, it won't happen. I rather get the game on 360/PC (if PC can play with PS3) or PS3/360. If we can all play together, the better.


But we are getting ahead of ourselves, its a PC game only so far.

[Happy Cat]

If Microsoft says no then it's going to end up like PSU if it's coming out on all 3 platforms..   If it uses games for windows live that means PS3 version wouldn't be included and well.. SEGA japan isn't going to cut off their native japanese audience like that =P  

but yeah =P we should really stop talking about this. Just going in circles.  Only announced platform so far is PC.

[George]

I know this is asking for much, but I hope it supports Steam stuff,

[Happy Cat]

I've never heard of a Japanese developed online game supporting steam, would be interesting.

Makes me wonder.  Maybe it's going to be PC exclusive cause it's just gonna be a download game.  Would save them money.

[Autosaver]

Wait, is it confirmed to be on PS3?
Don't remember PSU being on PS3 so...

[George]

This game has nothing to do with PSU... so...

Anyway, no. PC only.