E3 New Bayonetta 2 footage at 60fps - Online Co op confirmed

[inthesky]

The kid, Loki, sometimes participates in fights. I think it's similar to Jeanne; depending on the fight and for story reasons, they'll assist. It makes you wonder how they'll do co-op though-who'll the second character be? Wouldn't 2 Bayonetta's be impossibly strong?

[ROJM]

Nothing . Just seems that some of the SEGA faithful are so desperate to paint SEGA in a positive light they'll try and make out SEGA involved, quite sad really .


Worst still is I remember the days when SEGA Japan was once able to low the world with High End graphics and making great action games

That's because Sega is involved in Bay2 at some capacity.

1: Sega holds the rights to everything BAYONETTA
2:Sega OWNS the game code of the original BAYONETTA. Not the engine but the game code
3:That means Sega can publish the game on various formats at any time in the future. Which they have done with many other games made by teams outside of Sega's internal and Acquired Development structure.
4:The first Bay game is part of the new one which means Platinum had to go an get Sega's involvement AGAIN to gain access to that code for the changes they wanted to make for the WiiU version.

So regardless of how you like to paint Sega not being involved, they are and always have been as a supervisor advisory role which many license holders do when someone else has effectively licensed out a character that they own.  In fact the inclusion of the original actually strengthens the case of it being Sega via Nintendo publishing it.
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[MadeManG74]

The kid, Loki, sometimes participates in fights. I think it's similar to Jeanne; depending on the fight and for story reasons, they'll assist. It makes you wonder how they'll do co-op though-who'll the second character be? Wouldn't 2 Bayonetta's be impossibly strong?

Not if they make the enemies stronger/double the amount. They might even change the enemies depending on if you are running co-op, like Bayo 1's hardest difficulty throwing Grace and Glory at you in like, level 1.

[Barry the Nomad]

I view Bayonetta as a SEGA game in the same way that I view Ecco or Toe Jam & Earl as SEGA games.

[MadeManG74]

I view Bayonetta as a SEGA game in the same way that I view Ecco or Toe Jam & Earl as SEGA games.

Weren't they at least published by Sega?



Who's going to be replaying Bayonetta 1 before they start 2? I hope they don't change the controls etc too much/ at all, they were just about perfect in the first.

Come to think of it, I'll need to buy a good pad for the Wii-U so I dont have to use that tablet thingy...

[Barry the Nomad]

I planned to replay my 360 version, but I might wait and play it on Wii U. Especially if its 60fps and it's easy to unlock the Nintendo goodies. Shame Nintendo isn't splashing out for a limited edition, I really hope thats still in the cards. I'd love a Bayo 2 art book and a replica of one of her blue guns.

[MadeManG74]

I planned to replay my 360 version, but I might wait and play it on Wii U. Especially if its 60fps and it's easy to unlock the Nintendo goodies. Shame Nintendo isn't splashing out for a limited edition, I really hope thats still in the cards. I'd love a Bayo 2 art book and a replica of one of her blue guns.

Yeah, I didn't think of that actually. Come to think of it, I can't think of many Nintendo games that had Collector's editions, if any. Console bundles, yes, but not straight up collector's editions...

I really want a console bundle more than anything. The most awesome thing would be some kind of mega Platinum bundle with Wii-U, Bayonetta 1&2 and Wonderful 101 all together.

[Barry the Nomad]

At most, they do special Wiimotes, like with Mario & Sonic. DuckTales came with a pin, MK8 came with a statue. I hope they DO do something, but they probably won't knowing Nintendo.

[Randroid]

Who's going to be replaying Bayonetta 1 before they start 2?

I plan on checking out 1 first to see how it looks/feels on WiiU before starting 2.

I can also see myself ignoring B2 after beating it once and just replaying 1 over and over again as it's the true Sega game. I'm pretty sure all the "This is a Nintendo Game now" hints dropped all over B2 are going to annoy me.

[Centrale]

I can also see myself ignoring B2 after beating it once and just replaying 1 over and over again as it's the true Sega game. I'm pretty sure all the "This is a Nintendo Game now" hints dropped all over B2 are going to annoy me.

Yeah, I must admit I feel the same way. The Sega homages in the first one made sense, since Kamiya was a Sega fan in his youth. They were also fresh because it's not something that gets trotted out every single year. The Nintendo homages just seem like pandering to the same old franchises Nintendo fans can't ever get enough repetitions of decade after decade. Oh, look. There's Zelda again. And there's Metroid. Again. And again. Presumably until we all grow old and die.

[George]

FYI:

Nintendo sells a refurb Wii U 32gb with Nintendo Land and the controller for 200 dollars on their store. If you get Mario Kart 8 for 40 bucks from now to July 17th or something, you get a free digital download of either Pikmin 3, Zelda Wind Waker HD, New Super Mario Bros Wii U and/or Wii U party. The refurbs from Nintendo come with 1 year warranty. Yes. I got one. $5 shipping (even if you add more items like controllers)

Links
Wii U referb:
https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/us/po/browse/productDetailColorSizePicker.jsp?productId=prod150200
Mario Kart 8 promo
http://club2.nintendo.com/mario-kart8-promo/

[Ben]

It's a fun system.

I wish it were more powerful graphically and of course that it had more 3rd party support. But at such cheap prices, it's not a bad buy.

[ROJM]

Yeah, I must admit I feel the same way. The Sega homages in the first one made sense, since Kamiya was a Sega fan in his youth. They were also fresh because it's not something that gets trotted out every single year. The Nintendo homages just seem like pandering to the same old franchises Nintendo fans can't ever get enough repetitions of decade after decade. Oh, look. There's Zelda again. And there's Metroid. Again. And again. Presumably until we all grow old and die.

Odd since Kamiya said he didn't play much Sega games when he was younger. The only reason people get fed up with the Nintendo homages is because Nintendo don't have that many game characters as Sega and that many of those characters are still being updated by Nintendo today in new games. So its hardly special. Sega of course doesn't update many of their classic games so it means something when you see a nod to a classic Sega game or character who hasn't been seen in donkey years. Which is why ALLSTARS is popular. Sad really.

[ROJM]

I view Bayonetta as a SEGA game in the same way that I view Ecco or Toe Jam & Earl as SEGA games.

True. A second party Sega game in the long history of second party games published and owned by Sega including the original SHINING FORCE and SAKURA TAISEN. It's better to view Bay2's situation as similar to SHENMUE 2, being published by Microsoft for Xbox.

[Team Andromeda]

So regardless of how you like to paint Sega not being involved, they are and always have been as a supervisor advisory role which many license holders do when someone else has effectively licensed out a character that they own.  In fact the inclusion of the original actually strengthens the case of it being Sega via Nintendo publishing it.

They own the IP and that's it . Its not a SEGA developed game, the sequel will sell like crap and the IP has done and will do SEGA little good . Trying to make out that Bay II is a SEGA game (which some are) is just taking it too far . SEGA may well own the IP to games like Gunstar Heroes , but deep down we all know its a Treasure game , just like with Gradius V


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[/size][size=78%]That's a bit different . Sakura Taisen was in Part made In-House with plenty of SEGA Japan staff working on it . [/size]