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Offline TimmiT

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Re: Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Featuring STRANGE MINECART
« Reply #510 on: April 05, 2010, 08:45:47 am »
Quote from: "Dr. SEGA Monkey"
To those who watched the credits, is Jun Senoue the only music composer listed? Or are there other names.
It's no longer on Youtube, but I think Jun was the only one listed.
Also, after the credits it showed a silhouette of [spoiler:ao5llpmm]Metal Sonic[/spoiler:ao5llpmm].
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Offline STORM!

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #511 on: April 05, 2010, 09:23:43 am »
WTH? It's a page of the Bible!!! lol

 However, I have read every piece of this message, and have not get the point.

 What's the point? He got pissed off 'cause his forum member has leaked Sonic 4 videos? People are bashing Sega West?

 LOLOLOLOL!!!


 Iizuka is the reason! He is the one who are, still ruining every Sonic Team franchise!

Shadow The Hedgehog= pure shit
Sonic Rivals= shitty
Mario & Sonic= pretty shitty
Nights 2= a tragedy
Sonic 4= there is no help!
Nights remake= big fail...

 This guy don't know how to do games. He has no feelings! He can't do this job! His games are not fun and has no love. Iizuka is a kind of a robot, mechanical person, only doing his job by his personal "technical agenda".

 I hate him!!!


 About Sonic Retro, whatever... I don't go there anymore. I primaly care about Sega, not Sonic.
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Offline George

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #512 on: April 05, 2010, 09:39:08 am »
Honestly, how can anyone say that the fans are hurting the franchise? SEGA is the holder of this said franchise and they make their choices. Fans never asked for a alpha version of a game. SEGA is the one that published it early.

I think its great that SEGA wants feedback for their games, but I never heard anyone say they wanted Sonic 4 to be the way it was. What happen to all this feedback? To me it sounds like SEGA is trying to 'shut the mouths' of fans by suggesting they are listening to them. Giving them the treatment that they matter, means less negative posts on the internet.

In the end of the day, SEGA have to prove themselves with the Sonic franchise and they have had years and years to do and have failed horribly. Do I want SEGA to make an incredible Sonic game? Yes. Are they going to? Doubtful.
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Offline Happy Cat

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #513 on: April 05, 2010, 09:40:09 am »
Quote from: "STORM!"
WTH? It's a page of the Bible!!! lol

 However, I have read every piece of this message, and have not get the point.

 What's the point? He got pissed off 'cause his forum member has leaked Sonic 4 videos? People are bashing Sega West?

 LOLOLOLOL!!!


Iizuka is the reason! He is the one who are, still ruining every Sonic Team franchise!

Shadow The Hedgehog= pure shit
Sonic Rivals= shitty
Mario & Sonic= pretty shitty
Nights 2= a tragedy
Sonic 4= there is no help!
Nights remake= big fail...

 This guy don't know how to do games. He has no feelings! He can't do this job! His games are not fun and has no love. Iizuka is a kind of a robot, mechanical person, only doing his job by his personal "technical agenda".

 I hate him!!!


 About Sonic Retro, whatever... I don't go there anymore. I primaly care about Sega, not Sonic.

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Offline George

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #514 on: April 05, 2010, 09:43:44 am »
Quote from: "ShadiWulf"
Quote from: "STORM!"
WTH? It's a page of the Bible!!! lol

 However, I have read every piece of this message, and have not get the point.

 What's the point? He got pissed off 'cause his forum member has leaked Sonic 4 videos? People are bashing Sega West?

 LOLOLOLOL!!!


Iizuka is the reason! He is the one who are, still ruining every Sonic Team franchise!

Shadow The Hedgehog= pure shit
Sonic Rivals= shitty
Mario & Sonic= pretty shitty
Nights 2= a tragedy
Sonic 4= there is no help!
Nights remake= big fail...

 This guy don't know how to do games. He has no feelings! He can't do this job! His games are not fun and has no love. Iizuka is a kind of a robot, mechanical person, only doing his job by his personal "technical agenda".

 I hate him!!!


 About Sonic Retro, whatever... I don't go there anymore. I primaly care about Sega, not Sonic.

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Offline ImSmartUrDum

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #515 on: April 05, 2010, 10:34:43 am »
What did he have to do with the Nights Remake?  That was outsourced to an overseas development team...
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Offline Happy Cat

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #516 on: April 05, 2010, 10:36:52 am »
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What did he have to do with the Nights Remake?  That was outsourced to an overseas development team...

Iizuka was head of Sonic Team USA.
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Offline Orta

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #517 on: April 05, 2010, 10:57:40 am »
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Honestly, how can anyone say that the fans are hurting the franchise? SEGA is the holder of this said franchise and they make their choices. Fans never asked for a alpha version of a game. SEGA is the one that published it early.

That's Microsoft policy, actually. Every XBLA game you'll see in the coming months is available in some form on PartnerNet.
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Offline George

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #518 on: April 05, 2010, 12:57:49 pm »
I was not talking about partnernet leaks, I was talking more about releasing Sonic 06 in the state that it was. Fans did not ask for that, they did not ask for a ton of new add on characters or a 'real' setting.
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Offline Orta

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #519 on: April 05, 2010, 01:12:21 pm »
Actually, from what I see in Sonic fan sites every once in a while... They seem to actually want complex storylines and characters. The younger fanbase anyway.
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Offline George

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #520 on: April 05, 2010, 01:54:04 pm »
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Actually, from what I see in Sonic fan sites every once in a while... They seem to actually want complex storylines and characters. The younger fanbase anyway.
Yes, they are not human though.
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Offline MadeManG74

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #521 on: April 05, 2010, 06:07:04 pm »
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Actually, from what I see in Sonic fan sites every once in a while... They seem to actually want complex storylines and characters. The younger fanbase anyway.

Thats exactly why Sega needs to stop listening to those beastiality loving, brain dead freaks (who will buy Asbestos if it had Sonic on it anyway), and start making games that aren't shit.

I don't see how the fanbase can be blamed for consistently under-par Sonic games for just about a decade, maybe the development team or the management is just doing a bad job? Did they consider that?
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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #522 on: April 05, 2010, 08:06:07 pm »
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Quote from: "Orta"
Actually, from what I see in Sonic fan sites every once in a while... They seem to actually want complex storylines and characters. The younger fanbase anyway.

Thats exactly why Sega needs to stop listening to those beastiality loving, brain dead freaks (who will buy Asbestos if it had Sonic on it anyway), and start making games that aren't shit.

I don't see how the fanbase can be blamed for consistently under-par Sonic games for just about a decade, maybe the development team or the management is just doing a bad job? Did they consider that?

This is exactly what I have been saying for a very long time now.

The biggest reason Sonic is failing so horribly now is because SEGA/Sonic Team listen to the fanbase too much. SEGA and Sonic Team simply just do not understand that there are multiple types of fans that the franchise has picked up in the nearly 19 years of history it has had.

I have met people who do not like any of the games, but love the cartoons. I have met people who think Rouge the Bat is the best character in the series or that Silver needs his own game, or that Tails should get married to Maria Robotnik who should come back to life or that Charmy actually is a good character.

The fanbase is so out of whack and divided that they will actually never be able to "Fix the series" for everyone. I mean, how could they? Some people want just Sonic playable, some want all of them playable. Some want Sonic to be shorter and fatter, some want him taller and thinner. Some want hyper-realistic graphics, some are not retarded.

Another major reason as to why they franchise keeps disappointing is because Sonic Team is just not a very capable developer, which they have constantly proven. Mix this in with all of these seemingly endless complaints and needs and you have possibly the most confused game developers on the face of the planet.

But my final point is that Sonic Team just does not seem to have the passion they once had. Not only are they not making something they like, they are seemingly bored with the franchise, trying new things that clash horrendously with everything they have done prior.

To an extent, Sonic Unleashed tried to be it's own thing, it had at least some passion in it. They did somethings new that did not clash with the franchise, and while it no doubt had a lot of issues (most having to do with Sonic Team being a shitty developer), I thought it was a pretty good game. I am sad to admit I think this is the best Sonic Team will ever be able to do anymore with the franchise. It is time to pass the torch to some team that is actually capable of making a game in the style they feel is right and while still listening to the fanbase for support over ideas. Of course I am talking of AM2!
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Offline Barry the Nomad

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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #523 on: April 05, 2010, 08:35:31 pm »
AM2 Sonic, I can see it now...
"I'm looking for some rings."
"Heyyyyy brooooooo!" <-the new Big the Cat
"Welcome to the Green Hill Zone. Get Ready!"

I'm the type of fan who loved the Genesis games as a kid, thought AoStH was hilarious and that SatAM was too serious (it's SONIC for godsake, not Secret of NIMH) and read the comics until they became to full of themselves (check out an angry letter I wrote to the final Super Special in which Archie edited out my complaint of them not utilizing the plots of the games more often). So yeah, SA2 was leading towards furry fanfic plots that climaxed in Sonic '06. Unleashed and Sonic 4 are steps in the right direction.

Please no more emotional plots! Sonic vs. Eggman. Thats all they need. I was relieved that Unleashed did not feature a scene of Sonic crying due to his predicament.
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Re: Sonic 4 and how SEGA America / Europe want your help
« Reply #524 on: April 05, 2010, 08:58:25 pm »
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Please no more emotional plots! Sonic vs. Eggman. Thats all they need. I was relieved that Unleashed did not feature a scene of Sonic crying due to his predicament.

Sonic vs Robotnik actually. I hate Eggman!  :P

Anyway I used to read the comics until about issue 50, then it stopped being just fun monthly adventures with Sonic and turned into an attempt to be really serious and full of bullshit. They even had all this weird mystical and supernatural rubbish thrown in to try to make this deep backstory or something but it just ended up sounding silly, even to an 11 year old.
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