Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1

[Aki-at]

Sonic Adventure 2 is not a family game. It's not a game anyone can pick up and play.
It's a 3D action game.

So basically Sonic Team forgot what Sonic was made for.

[crackdude]

Sonic was made for families?
"Family games" is a very new concept. Sonic came out to be the most action packed platforming game of it's time! It had the best graphics, the fastest gameplay and the most exciting design. It was the Modern Warfare 2 of 1991, a mass appealing hardcore game.

In 2001 rock and hiphop music was most appealing, so they went with rock and hiphop and whatnot.

[Aki-at]

Sonic was made for families?
"Family games" is a very new concept. Sonic came out to be the most action packed platforming game of it's time! It had the best graphics, the fastest gameplay and the most exciting design. It was the Modern Warfare 2 of 1991, a mass appealing hardcore game.

In 2001 rock and hiphop music was most appealing, so they went with rock and hiphop and whatnot.

Sonic was made so that anyone could play it, hence the use of one button most of the time, that was the core design behind Sonic the Hedgehog. It was pretty much open for any member of the family to play it, or should I say most.

[crackdude]

That isn't the point.. SA2 only uses 2 buttons.

When Sonic first came out it was a cool game. SA2 was a cool game as well.
Hell, Golden Axe was family friendly and was about slaughtering people.

[Kori-Maru]

Hell, Golden Axe was family friendly and was about slaughtering people.

And being gangbanged by two skeletons.

[Sega Uranus]

That isn't the point.. SA2 only uses 2 buttons.

Wrong. You also use the Y button to change your X or B actions, the triggers for the camera. You had new moves the characters had to learn that did all kinds of different things and the game offered new sections like spinning on pipes and grinding. Not just this but it had multiple play styles that needed to be learned that all had different kinds of goals, and even the introduction of a health bar. This is all significantly more complicated than the Genesis titles.

[George]

Sonic Adventure 2 did what you should never do in a Sonic game. Not be fun. No one wants to play as other characters, Tails/Eggman had horrible levels and so did Knuckles and Rogue. They also make up more than 50% of the game.

[crackdude]

What the fuck is everyone talking about, SA2 is a pretty simple 3D action game.
There was no need to change the actions with the Y button during normal gameplay..
And what about Sonic 3 which had a ton of gameplay changing power-ups, various special stages, various characters, snowboarding parts, that casino level jump thing that everyone gets stuck on..
If I really want to argue about this I'll start complaining that in Sonic 3 you have to use button combinations and timed presses to spindash at full speed.

And I had lots of fun with Knuckles stages, that's a matter of opinion. I n«know people that love Eggman stages and I found them boring. Overall the gameplay was diverse and balanced.

EDIT: Health bar?

[George]

The only fun levels where the Sonic and Shadow levels. Even that got frustrating when you got into space. Game was a disaster compared to the first one.

[crackdude]

The only fun levels where the Sonic and Shadow levels. Even that got frustrating when you got into space. Game was a disaster compared to the first one.

cofcameracoffishingcofadventurezonescof

I'm kidding, I loved the first one as well.
But Sonic Adventure 2 was NOT a disaster by far. At the time it was praised by the critics, praised by the fans. It somehow managed to be one of the best Dreamcast and GAMECUBE games of all!

It was different, not worse. I thought it was only gonna get better from there on. Hell, I bought Heroes on day-one.
Sonic Adventure 2 was the last great Sonic game.

[Orta]

I remember being pretty frustrated with Knuckles'/Rouge's stages. So yeah. It wasn't that good.

[ribbitking17]

I enjoyed the knuckles rouge stages after a second go. I dont like the eggman tails stages more than anything though.

[Barry the Nomad]

I enjoyed all the stages during the first playthrough, mostly because I was really digging the story. Second playthrough I was neutral on the treasure stages and was bored of the shooting stages. Since then, I played the Sonic/Shadow stages plenty, and hardly touched the others.

I'll admit, controlling Eggman was a thrill.

[Monkeroony]

SA2 generally had me playing the first level with sonic (in SF with that awful Bentley Jones song) over and over trying to get an AAA rank.

In-fact that's still my favourite sonic level of all time.

[crackdude]

SA2 generally had me playing the first level with sonic (in SF with that awful Bentley Jones song) over and over trying to get an AAA rank.

In-fact that's still my favourite sonic level of all time.

Same here!

Rolling around at the speed of sound!
Got places to go now
gotta FOLLOW MY RAINBOW!!!!