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Offline CosmicCastaway

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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #105 on: April 14, 2011, 03:13:41 pm »
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I thought the new "generation" took a large portion of the fanbase.

This is the single biggest thing to come out of that poll.  The realization that "neo sonic fans" are only an obnoxious minority.  It's pretty damn refreshing.  


That's a pretty negative attitude.
You might not share the same view as them, but they still support the Sonic series.

Personally, I'm really curious to see how the abilities of classic and modern Sonic are different. I'm guessing modern Sonic will have his homing attack, rail grinding and such. Maybe the classic Sonic will have the peel-out from Sonic CD, the various barriers from S3&K and a more powerful spin dash.
I might be completely wrong, but it's fun to think of how the game play will differentiate between them.
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #106 on: April 14, 2011, 03:22:49 pm »
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This is the single biggest thing to come out of that poll.  The realization that "neo sonic fans" are only an obnoxious minority.  It's pretty damn refreshing.  

I don't think it really says that at all. As Mademan said if anything it’s just become the new fad to hate 'modern sonic'. When Sonic Adventure came out nobody cared that Sonic was an inch taller or had a green iris.

If they had stuck with the Sonic 06 model that would be a problem, it was lanky and badly designed and looked awful. However I think the difference between the current model used in Unleashed, Colours and Sonic 4 is so close to the classic model that it's not even worth getting uppity about.

The most obnoxious are by far the ones still complaining after this announcement… Frankly if Sega/Sonic Team want to make classic Sonic look the way it does now then that is up to them and them alone. In fact I think these classic elitist types need to STFU already.  

So long as the play game is good Sonic Team can do what ever they like with the character which they created and own…

Anyone looking at a Sonic Model so closely that they notice that Sonics shoes are post box red instead of inflamed penis red really needs to… Well, get a life...

It has been these classic purist types that are far more obnoxious and pushy than anyone else. Whist I dislike seeing people asking over and over again for Sonic Adventure 3 I'm more irritated by people being given what they ask for and still complaining because it doesn't match the exact design of there favourite design from one peice of obscure concept art drawn in 1995...

It was not long ago that many sonic fan were invited to Sega of America for a round table discussion about the sonic series and its direction. I distinctly remember being disgusted by how damn rude the classic sonic shitheads were being.

One in particular was given a Sonic clock as a prize, it has modern Sonic on it and he kicked up a stink and was completely ungrateful. He wrote a hateful blog about the event and the clock and in the youtube video of the event he came across as a pushy opinionated little cunt that wouldn’t let anyone else get a word in edge ways. Even worse he had the cheek to complain that part of the time was dedicated to other Sega games like Phantasy Star and Valkyria Chronicles even though it wasn’t strictly a Sonic event.


To be REALLY honest both sides are just as bad as each other. I think the entire series would be better if Sega never listened to another Sonic fan again. Besides the rare decent Sonic fan, they are horrible, ungrateful whiney people that make me embarrassed to say I’m part of the Sega fanbase.
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #107 on: April 14, 2011, 03:29:21 pm »
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I don't think it really says that at all. As Mademan said if anything it’s just become the new fad to hate 'modern sonic'. When Sonic Adventure came out nobody cared that Sonic was an inch taller or had a green iris.

This is not true.

However!

Most people I remember actually said how great the changes were, how it did not feel like a game for toddlers, like what Mario has been known for in the past.

In any event, I agree that people overreact about this stuff, but the post you just made is a great example of it all...  :afroman:

Quote from: "CosmicCastaway"
Personally, I'm really curious to see how the abilities of classic and modern Sonic are different. I'm guessing modern Sonic will have his homing attack, rail grinding and such. Maybe the classic Sonic will have the peel-out from Sonic CD, the various barriers from S3&K and a more powerful spin dash.
I might be completely wrong, but it's fun to think of how the game play will differentiate between them.

Modern Sonic does not even roll anymore! I would not mind this kind of play style at all though, I would support it if it were like how you described it.

If they can just get the rolling and correct sound effects in place (Sonic the Hedgehog 4 uses the spindashing sound for rolling, and the rolling sound for spindashing... Cannot believe how stupid a mixup that is...) and some other things are taken note of, I think I will really like this game a lot. It does not seem like a hard thing to accomplish, but Sonic Team has horrifically disappointed me so many times in the past that I am not sure where I stand yet.

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Anyways, I think both models are fire and I am not sure why it is really that big of a deal at the end of the day. I noticed some changes to the newer model even, like how they got rid of how his arms bent, like in the Adventure games, Heroes and 06, so they are not done yet.

Modern Sonic looks better in 3D because his head and limbs extend longer, but someone pointed out to me that in 2D this model looks strange in a 2D setting as he is too thin and his head is longer too.

Classic Sonic is better because he is more versatile in regards to 2D and 3D placement, and if the Facebook polls are anything to go by, he is much more appealing to the general public. I personally like both, I am just not a fan when he is extra long and "waxy" looking, like in the DX version of Adventure, Sonic 4 or his 06 model... Yuck.

Regardless of what some people say about me here, I feel I am very open minded when it comes to Sonic games. I hope they can wait till E3 though for more information, instead of just throwing it all out at random.
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #108 on: April 14, 2011, 03:37:26 pm »
I'd prefer if after Generations, Classic Sonic goes away. I'd like his revival to be a special 20th Anniversary thing, like how the 1987 Ninja Turtles briefly returned for the 25th anniversary movie. Not something that is milked in 2012 and beyond as an alternate skin in Sonic 4 Episode 3 and Sonic Colors 2.

Though I'd be happy to see classic games get proper rereleases in the future, like Sonic CD on XBLA/PSN, and wouldn't mind if the classic Sonic render is used to promote rereleases. The iPhone versions of Sonic 1 and 2 bizarrely used art from the Advance series as boot up screens. Why not use the classic Sonic render instead? Would be far more fitting. Also, I'd gladly accept more classic Sonic merchandise, whether it's an anniversary or not.

But as an optional reskin, pass. 3D games are modern Sonic's territory. Let classic Sonic represent the Genesis/Saturn days.
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #109 on: April 14, 2011, 03:43:57 pm »
The boxart is either fake or just a place holder
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #110 on: April 14, 2011, 03:48:42 pm »
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I'd prefer if after Generations, Classic Sonic goes away. I'd like his revival to be a special 20th Anniversary thing, like how the 1987 Ninja Turtles briefly returned for the 25th anniversary movie. Not something that is milked in 2012 and beyond as an alternate skin in Sonic 4 Episode 3 and Sonic Colors 2.

Frankly I'll be happy to see classic games get proper rereleases in the future, like Sonic CD on XBLA/PSN, and wouldn't mind if the classic Sonic render is used to promote rereleases. Also, I'd gladly accept more classic Sonic merchandise, whether it's an anniversary or not.

But as an optional reskin, pass. 3D games are modern Sonic's territory. Let classic Sonic represent the Genesis/Saturn days.

If I'm completely honest I think the Sonic Colours/Sonic Unleashed design of Sonic is by far the best design he has ever had... Yes ever. Followed closely by the animated design from the Sonic CD opening.

However I'll be happy to see the classic Sonic in every game from here on out, JUST so I never have to hear whiney fanboys complaining that he wasn't included... So the game is going to SUCK... Which is bound to happen from here on out. (Not that they won't just find something else to complain about.)

In my opinion this design takes the best features of the modern and classic Sonic and makes the best model so far:



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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #111 on: April 14, 2011, 03:52:38 pm »
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The boxart is either fake or just a place holder

I'm pretty sure it's just the place holder. Also welcome to SEGAbits Shining Dawn. =)
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #112 on: April 14, 2011, 03:58:10 pm »
Yeah, like I said in the news post (did I say this?), I think it would be far too difficult to fake such convincing renders. They look like true 3D renders, not like some faux painted job. Thus, they be placeholders.

Talkin' 'bout Sonic G-g-g-generations!
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #113 on: April 14, 2011, 04:09:19 pm »
I love that model from Unleashed, but hate that CG model from Colors.

STRAAAANGE, ISN"T IT?!

(Actually, I just hate his "Open mouth" placement and how overly excited he seems about nothing, looks retarded)
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #114 on: April 14, 2011, 04:15:59 pm »
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I love that model from Unleashed, but hate that CG model from Colors.

STRAAAANGE, ISN"T IT?!

(Actually, I just hate his "Open mouth" placement and how overly excited he seems about nothing, looks retarded)

Well, to be fair its the same model just a different expression... Which I agree is a bit douchey.

Still my point is more so that the newest 'modern' Sonic design is really nice on the eyes and I hope they stick with it. It is easily the best design since 1998's move to 'modern sonic'...
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2011, 04:52:47 pm »
I hope that the two Sonics have moves of their own in order to distinquish them well enough instead of just adding classic Sonic for nostalgia's sake.
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #116 on: April 14, 2011, 05:10:10 pm »
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I hope that the two Sonics have moves of their own in order to distinquish them well enough instead of just adding classic Sonic for nostalgia's sake.

I'm pretty sure they will. As I said in an earlier post, I'm really curious how they will play differently from each other.
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Re: New Sonic Trailer "Sonic Generations"?
« Reply #117 on: April 14, 2011, 05:59:07 pm »
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The boxart is either fake or just a place holder

I'm pretty sure it's just the place holder. Also welcome to SEGAbits Shining Dawn. =)
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Re: Sonic Generations Discussion
« Reply #118 on: April 18, 2011, 11:35:11 am »
A big day for Generations!

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Re: Sonic Generations Discussion
« Reply #119 on: April 18, 2011, 01:49:37 pm »
It's looking pretty amazing.
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