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[Barry the Nomad]

Caught up with the Sony press show this morning, and I gotta say I was a bit underwhelmed. It seemed the best stuff they did was essentially not doing anything at all - e.g. no used game restrictions. Games looked good, but as far as exclusives (as Aki mentioned) it wasn't all that exciting a showing as most of the titles were multi-platform. I liked the Xbox One exclusives on show a bit more than PS4 (Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Crimson Dragon).

As for price, good on Sony for keeping it at $400. Though, having said that there is the fact that the PS Eye is sold separate for $59 bumps the price up closer to Xbox One. I know, I know. PS4 buyers will say "but I don't want the Eye!" - well, no you won't... until Sony releases a must own game for the peripheral. In my eyes, to get the full PS4 package you're spending $20 more than the One and get an extra controller out of the deal. Not really a $100 savings when all is said and done.

Since Will was rating the press events, I'd give Microsoft a B+ and Sony an A-. I think MS delivered in terms of games and had (amazingly) a largely meme-free affair. No Kinect, which surprised me. Sony had better news, but fewer exclusives on show. Price wasn't as big a deal, as I noted above, though I do think it'll help Sony. Don't know if I should praise Sony for their best bits since, as noted, their best was doing nothing at all.

I have a feeling Nintendo will have the best show, since the hardware is out and it'll be all game focused.

[George]

Can they already announce Persona 5 for PS4, that is all want.

Also Microsoft gets a D for their amazing policies, great pricing, forcing Kinect when they didn't prove its needed, and not showing enough Japanese games.

[Trippled]

Can they already announce Persona 5 for PS4, that is all want.

Given Atlus history, that will most likely be PS3

Or even 3DS?

[George]

No, don't say that. NooOoooooooOoO.

[George]

humbug http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/11/4417230/the-last-guardian

[Dr. SEGA Monkey]

Honestly really impressed with what Nintendo showed. Only thing that kinda disappointed me was that the big new 3D Mario game is basically just a console version of Super Mario 3D Land. I mean, I love 3D Land, but I was hoping for more of a Mario 64 kind of game. Vast worlds, exploration, choosing your own path and progression, etc.

[Barry the Nomad]

Last Guardian! Noooooooo.... Very sad. That was the game I wanted most.

[MadeManG74]

Looks like I'm going to be sticking with PC gaming as much as possible this gen, all the consoles sound pretty rubbish (PS4 seems okayish).

It's going to take something very compelling to be exclusive for me to buy one, Bayonetta 2 is probably going to tip me in favour of buying a Wii U when it lands.

[CrazyT]

The ninty direct "presentation" was awful. the stream service being sd quality and getting stuck every 5 minutes didnt do it any favor either. neither did the fact that my expectations were more games and at least a metroid game. Apart from the latter, I am a lot more positive now after seeing all trailers and more in hd. like monkey mentioned, no big mario is dissapointing, but among the other games its fine i guess...

i guess its at least a positive that a mainline sonic game looks better than mario for a change.

overall i just dont know.. i feel alot better now about it then hours ago. when u think about it. all the games shown are nonetheless games that make nintendo shine as unique and different among everyone. but it really missed that one title that was also for that demographic sony/microsoft go after and done better.

i think either a new ip or metroid would have made the direct great. but it was average overall. the presentation of these titles was not doing the games justice at all either. the direct took 40 minutes. it should have veen an hour with more gameplay

[George]

No price drop on Wii U? Come the fuck on Nintendo. How can anyone say 'Wow, 300 dollars for a Xbox 360 is so worth it', when Sony just announced a 400 dollar PS4?

Seriously should have announced the console at 250 with a old game bundled in.

[crackdude]

I was surprised at the lack of a WiiU price drop. But overall the Nintendo Direct was great! Good games shown (I was honeslty impressed to see Watch Dogs on the WiiU), there was Smash Bros love for the 3DS which is a HUGE deal. The game is going to be a huge ass success in my eyes. And yes, the new Sonic looks better than the new Mario for the first time since the 90's, let's see if the gameplay holds up.

On the Xbone vs PS4 debacle:
PS4 wins.
It feels like the PS2 era all over again. Except this time it isn't Sega being screwed over so I can actually appreciate the magnitude of the incoming PS4 launch. The Xbone just isn't fit enough to compete, the PS4 is a no-brainer. Sony analized the backlash MS got over the dumb restrictions on used games and decided to maintain the current policies.
This is VERY important. I am actually rooting for the Xbone to be a complete failure, and it has nothing to do with fanboyism. I loved the previous two MS consoles, they were great gaming machines and I played the shit out of them (literally, eventually both broke down).
But if the Xbone is a success, the whole gaming culture I grew up in will be destroyed. Sharing games, buying used and reselling, taking the console on vacation... all of that will be lost.

The industry has been strong for over 20 years regardless of the used game market. MS's interest is purely economical, fueled by corporate greed. They aren't even trying to hide it.

Mind that I won't be buying any new console soon. I think I'll wait until the inevitable slim versions. And I hope that by then MS has their game set straight. I would love to jump on a game-focused Xbox once more, though I doubt that will ever happen again.

[Emmett The Crab]

I loved the previous two MS consoles, they were great gaming machines and I played the shit out of them (literally, eventually both broke down).

Literally?  That means shit came out of them.  Disgusting!

[Trippled]

SO actual exclusive games for Xbone:
Below (Indie game)
Crimson Dragon
D4 (small episodic game?)
Forza
Halo
Killer Instinct
Quantum Break
Ryse
Sunset Overdrive

PS4:
Driveclub
Infamous
Knack
Killzone
The Order (new IP by Santa Monica)
Secret Ponchos (indie game)
Super Stardust HD 2

The rest will be on both, or on PC...really the PC plattform keeps getting increased, even with alot of 3rd person Action games and Indie game.

I really don't know why Sony and MS keeps pushing those Indie games...this whole was just confusing with their 2 conferences so I had to write it down myself...

[Barry the Nomad]

I know I'll be pelted with rocks but I like Xbox One's exclusives from that list above more than PS4. Crimson Dragon, D4, Quantum Break, and Sunset Overdrive specifically.

Is Project Spark One exclusive?

[mylifewithsega]

Neither consoles' exclusives really excite me. Now that the new installment of Metal Gear Solid is going multi-platform, Sony no longer has a hold on me beyond hardware. Unless they can produce another incredible Twisted Metal title, which I really don't see happening any time soon. Although, I do enjoy the Killzone series, so that may be worth a toss.