Bayonetta 2 Discussion Mega Thread

[inthesky]

Sarah Palin discussion? Da hell? =) They're nothing alike. Bayonetta and Sarah Palin have appeal for different reasons but I find it strange that Sarah Palin has as much appeal as she does. Beyond just the political aspect, the thing where she's super attractive to lots of people and is a cultural icon. Like the whole porn star thing.

Of course...but people here have said sega has NOTHING to do with this title...regardless of the fact thatt hey own the IP...intially funded a part of the game... help set up the deal for Nintendo to take over funding....consulted on the title...the original code for Bay 1.. and now the wavemaster factor...

This has always been a strange discussion, it's always been Sega's :S

[ROJM]

Yeah i know but tell that to the detractors around here....

[fernandeath]

The game has bombed in Japan

http://gematsu.com/2014/09/media-create-sales-91514-92114

[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo, 09/13/14) – 321,363 (1,266,008)
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke (Level-5, 07/10/14) – 56,380 (2,525,591)
[Wii U] Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo, 09/20/14) – 38,828 (New)
[PS3] Destiny (SCE, 09/11/14) – 18,396 (67,896)
[3DS] Dragon Quest X Online (Square Enix, 09/04/14) – 13,948 (89,299)
[PS4] Destiny (SCE, 09/11/14) – 13,014 (104,291)
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution (Bandai Namco, 09/11/14) – 9,389 (49,569)
[PSV] Toukiden Kiwami (Koei Tecmo, 08/28/14) – 7,936 (129,256)
[Wii U] Mario Kart 8 (Nintendo, 05/29/14) – 6,396 (672,313)
[3DS] Yokai Watch (Level-5, 07/11/13) – 4,554 (1,274,296)

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/09/media-create-sales-91514-92114#tD0FjwwtRxjpYR85.99

[Sharky]

That is not necessarily a bomb, wait for next weeks sales. But it was never going to set the charts alight on the Wii U was it...

[MadeManG74]

That is not necessarily a bomb, wait for next weeks sales. But it was never going to set the charts alight on the Wii U was it...

Look at Smash Bros sales figures by comparison tho...

RIP in Piece Bayonetta... This gaming landscape was never meant for one as beautiful as you.


EDIT: I just realised Smash was 3DS numbers. Disregard my post, I suck cocks.

[Aki-at]

I'm writing up on the sales and let me say, they are not good in anyway. Just be happy we got a Bayonetta 2.

[fernandeath]

It scored 38/40 on famitsu - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/476721/bayonetta-2-review-3840-in-famitsu/
10/10 on edge - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=900602

It's a shame the game did not sell as many units as I was expecting.
Let's see if it will achievethe 100K milestone

[ROJM]

Let's see what happens next week sales. But Aki is correct the sales isn't good for a game Nintendo paid exclusively for. I wonder if this is a repeat of anything outside Nintendo mascot games on a nintendo system is doomed to failure..like what basically happened on the Wii.

[ROJM]

That is not necessarily a bomb, wait for next weeks sales. But it was never going to set the charts alight on the Wii U was it...

Agreed. Considering what it was up against its done ok but far below what the original made. The question now is if Sega had released this game themselves and released it on PS3/4 360 would we have seen the game with the same numbers or higher? Also Nintendo now has to look at changing their low tech philosophy if they are going to compete with sony and microsoft since its clear that the Wii was just a fluke/fashion trend in the way it became such a massive seller. I also reckon the mobile direction of the japanese market may have a lot to do with it when you look at the sales on that side of things. Dwarfing even the highest entry in the console charts on a regular basis.

[MadeManG74]

Let's see what happens next week sales. But Aki is correct the sales isn't good for a game Nintendo paid exclusively for. I wonder if this is a repeat of anything outside Nintendo mascot games on a nintendo system is doomed to failure..like what basically happened on the Wii.

Aren't opening week numbers generally the highest? I'm willing to wait, but I really don't think we're going to see anything other than a downward trend while Nintendo Wii-U owners scratch their heads and wonder what a Bayonetta is while they grab armfuls of Hyrule Warriors to purchase.

[pirovash88]

Everyone knew this would happen though. Bayo is not a system seller in any way. If anything, releasing this as a Wii U exclusive was a flat out error. Can't complain much considering Nintendo made this happen.

[ROJM]

Aren't opening week numbers generally the highest? I'm willing to wait, but I really don't think we're going to see anything other than a downward trend while Nintendo Wii-U owners scratch their heads and wonder what a Bayonetta is while they grab armfuls of Hyrule Warriors to purchase.

The argument is this is actually first day sales not a first week sales. That's why me and the sharkster is saying wait til next week to see how it gains after a week. Comparing first day sales of the original though its not good. But the orginal was available on two systems.
Also the japanese console market is at a wringer right now.

3DS LL – 35,622 (31,602)
PlayStation Vita – 11,148 (12,331)
PlayStation 4 – 8,939 (23,623)
Wii U – 8,396 (7,062)
3DS – 7,970 (7,967)
PlayStation 3 – 6,078 (6,083)
Xbox One – 1,314 (3,015)
PlayStation Vita TV – 704 (817)
Xbox 360 – 103 (96)
PSP – 99 (101)

The picture says it all when the PS4 is being outsold by the VITA and the new version of the 3DS. The handheld console market has always been strong but the console market in japan has steadily declined. Which is why i wonder if its a factor for Bay2 numbers.

[Aki-at]

Aren't opening week numbers generally the highest? I'm willing to wait, but I really don't think we're going to see anything other than a downward trend while Nintendo Wii-U owners scratch their heads and wonder what a Bayonetta is while they grab armfuls of Hyrule Warriors to purchase.

Hyrule Warriors took 7 weeks to cross the 100,000+ barrier, they are not buying that in the armfuls. Infact no one is buying much on the Wii U, third parties in Japan were right to downplay their investment on the platform after the first round of failures.

Let's see what happens next week sales. But Aki is correct the sales isn't good for a game Nintendo paid exclusively for. I wonder if this is a repeat of anything outside Nintendo mascot games on a nintendo system is doomed to failure..like what basically happened on the Wii.

The damning thing is even Nintendo's own titles are seeing significant downward sales, they really need to start working on a new platform, I do not know how much longer Nintendo can keep this up.

[ROJM]

Hyrule Warriors took 7 weeks to cross the 100,000+ barrier, they are not buying that in the armfuls. Infact no one is buying much on the Wii U, third parties in Japan were right to downplay their investment on the platform after the first round of failures.

The damning thing is even Nintendo's own titles are seeing significant downward sales, they really need to start working on a new platform, I do not know how much longer Nintendo can keep this up.

Well you keep up to date on this type of stuff than i do now but from what i saw of the japanese console charts it seems to reflect a common trend in console sales and game sales overall. The Wii U from my understanding of it was in a bad position in a bad situation. I'm going to be really intrested to see how RGG 0 performs considering that the PS4 market isn't as strong in japan and Japan is really that title's bread and butter.

[Team Andromeda]

Like this any short of a shock . It was always going to bomb and its not do much better in the West . I'll expect to see the game on the XBox 1 and PS4 next year and even then the game will be multi to be a multi million seller