SEGA says PSO2 still coming to the west

[Nirmugen]

I don't want to say what it is with the better input and luck but I don't know if it's a good idea to promote your apps and online games in Korea and China first just like Capcom.

Also, Sega already invested in 3 studios in the West and collaborate with some on the big indie ones in Japan like Aiming or Pokelabo.

Heck, they could even buy more stuff this year.

[Team Andromeda]

Also, Sega already invested in 3 studios in the West and collaborate with some on the big indie ones in Japan like Aiming or Pokelabo

Yeah for mobile . Where was the last time SEGA Japan expanding its console lines and staff ?

[Trippled]

Where does it state on hiring more for console development? Like all the big japanese companies, it states PC Online and Mobile as growth areas.

And really, Sega is ahead of the curve for mobile in comparision to Capcom. Monkey Ball was the no.1 app in 08 when the iPhone came out, Capcom didn't have similar success like that, ever.

[Team Andromeda]

And really, Sega is ahead of the curve for mobile in comparision to Capcom. Monkey Ball was the no.1 app in 08 when the iPhone came out, Capcom didn't have similar success like that, ever.

Think like that EA is way ahead of either , so lets go there even Square sell more on the Mobile than SEGA Japan does and lets not forget Capcom as the sales monster than is Monster Hunter

Where does it state on hiring more for console development? Like all the big japanese companies, it states PC Online and Mobile as growth areas

After taking so much flag for Lost Planet 3 - I believe the produce said Capcom Japan was taking on more Staff internally so they wouldn't have to outsorce console projects. I could be wrong though  and I guess we'll find out come E3 just what shape Capcom is in for the next gen

[George]

SEGA isn't investing in new talent and companies? >....>

http://segabits.com/blog/2015/02/18/sega-networks-is-investing-in-western-mobile-developers/

[Trippled]

Think like that EA is way ahead of either , so lets go there even Square sell more on the Mobile than SEGA Japan does and lets not forget Capcom as the sales monster than is Monster Hunter

Well Monster Hunter is handheld. Not sure where the biggest mobile players are in Japan, but I think Square Enix and Sega Japan are about equal. However it is clear, that Capcom has failed in the mobile market.

[George]

and they have also failed to penetrate the PC market compared to the success SEGA has had since forever.

[SOUP]

SEGA isn't investing in new talent and companies? >....>

http://segabits.com/blog/2015/02/18/sega-networks-is-investing-in-western-mobile-developers/

Yeah for mobile . Where was the last time SEGA Japan expanding its console lines and staff ?

[George]

So, why hasn't SEGA invested in a place where they are losing money and no one buys their games? I wonder...

[Radrappy]

So, why hasn't SEGA invested in a place where they are losing money and no one buys their games? I wonder...

And whose fault is it that they can't make a profit making console titles?

It's their own fault that they didn't properly market their games or accurately gauge interest.  We want them to be smart and survive in the industry that they're famous for, not to adapt to the point of becoming an irrelevant mobile developer.  Games like Binary Domain, while competent, didn't have the style or substance that Sega is ultimately known for.  Never mind that it was incredibly complacent from a gameplay point of view.  They need games that are smartly made, gameplay driven, and that won't empty their coffers in the way that BD, Sonic Generations, and Yakuza apparently did.  Less is more these days.  Episodic releases like Revelations 2 or simpler titles like toad's treasure tracker (made obviously with the same assets as sm3dw but in smart and compelling new ways) would be MUCH preferable to mobile titles.


It's just important not to lose sight of what made this company great in the first place imo.

[MadeManG74]

And whose fault is it that they can't make a profit making console titles?

It's their own fault that they didn't properly market their games or accurately gauge interest.  We want them to be smart and survive in the industry that they're famous for, not to adapt to the point of becoming an irrelevant mobile developer.  Games like Binary Domain, while competent, didn't have the style or substance that Sega is ultimately known for.  Never mind that it was incredibly complacent from a gameplay point of view.  They need games that are smartly made, gameplay driven, and that won't empty their coffers in the way that BD, Sonic Generations, and Yakuza apparently do. 

Fucking THANK YOU.

I thought I was the only person in the world who didn't 'get' Binary Domain. I found it incredibly dull and uninspired.

[Team Andromeda]

Well Monster Hunter is handheld. Not sure where the biggest mobile players are in Japan, but I think Square Enix and Sega Japan are about equal. However it is clear, that Capcom has failed in the mobile market.

? Capcom profits for the other year were saved for by its Mobile arm and Square sells better than SEGA Japan and EA leaves the likes of SEGA Mobile divsion standing in terms of sales . Isn't Konami digital also bigger than SEGA Japan mobile sales ?

We want them to be smart and survive in the industry that they're famous for, not to adapt to the point of becoming an irrelevant mobile developer.

Spot on , the way SEGA is going they're just be another GameArts and the like.

They need games that are smartly made, gameplay driven, and that won't empty their coffers in the way that BD,

They need to please gamers and for Sammy to have faith in their teams and allow them to make big console productions , not every game will be a hit . It so sad to SEGA that did so much to pioneer On-Line gaming for console now having hardly anything to offer the console gamer for an On-line title . Where are the likes of a home version of Border Break or PSO II for the consoles for starters.

So, why hasn't SEGA invested in a place where they are losing money and no one buys their games? I wonder.

Well try giving gamers games worth buying might help and not limiting them to Japan or just one system might help too

[Aki-at]

So, why hasn't SEGA invested in a place where they are losing money and no one buys their games? I wonder...

George I think you're overlooking the fact they put down $100 million to purchase Atlus which was a predominately console developer.

And whose fault is it that they can't make a profit making console titles?

It's their own fault that they didn't properly market their games or accurately gauge interest.  We want them to be smart and survive in the industry that they're famous for, not to adapt to the point of becoming an irrelevant mobile developer.  Games like Binary Domain, while competent, didn't have the style or substance that Sega is ultimately known for.  Never mind that it was incredibly complacent from a gameplay point of view.  They need games that are smartly made, gameplay driven, and that won't empty their coffers in the way that BD, Sonic Generations, and Yakuza apparently did.  Less is more these days.  Episodic releases like Revelations 2 or simpler titles like toad's treasure tracker (made obviously with the same assets as sm3dw but in smart and compelling new ways) would be MUCH preferable to mobile titles.

You are acting like they are only developing mobile titles when they still have a presence on consoles and a strong presence on PC.

Whilst it's true that they have to blame themselves on certain games, I think looking at the industry itself, this isn't an issue effecting SEGA alone but every major publisher. Doubling down on what sells and still produce the odd high budget title here and there.

Fucking THANK YOU.

I thought I was the only person in the world who didn't 'get' Binary Domain. I found it incredibly dull and uninspired.

Binary Domain certainly has many detractors, but sometimes a game is just not for you.

[George]

Also a lot of people are really not looking that all 3rd party Japanese games have scaled back their console studios due to trends in Japan leading to mobile games and when I say mobile I also include PSP, DS and 3DS.

[MadeManG74]

Well try giving gamers games worth buying might help and not limiting them to Japan or just one system might help too

As much as I lament Sega dialling down their console release schedule, we can hardly fault Sega for Quality last generation.

Valkyria Chronicles
Yakuza
Virtua Fighter
Bayonetta
Vanquish

All games that were incredible, but still failed to sell. It's a very tough market and ultimately I can see why they would focus on mobile. It makes so much sense. It just means I don't want to play 99% of their release lineup anymore. C'est la vie.

Binary Domain certainly has many detractors, but sometimes a game is just not for you.

Oh I don't mean to open another can of worms, I've come to terms with the fact I don't like the game and everyone else here does. Just pointing out to Radrappy he's not alone in not being a fan.

I'm trying to think of a game I adore that you hated or were indifferent to as another example but can't think of one.