The Console War..the truth...

[Team Andromeda]

So that's a  NO then..  I thought as much.

[ROJM]

So that's a  NO then..  I thought as much.

You mean coming from someone who can't back anything up in his lifetime and keeps saying no when everyone else has said yes despite the majority having the evidence..and the person saying no never does?
You are such a joke..and a bad one at that..get out of here kid...

[segarule]

NES/Famicom - Clear win for Nintendo

What country?
Brazil - Clear win for SMS
UK - Clear win for SMS

[ROJM]

What country?
Brazil - Clear win for SMS
UK - Clear win for SMS

Exactly.Nintendo had USA and Japan. Sega Master System had the rest of the world.And even then Brazil alone the MS continued to sell and sell..way into the nineties. The MS also had a sales boost in the USA and in other markets when the MD got big..it was still selling and getting games way after the NES was put to rest. Makes me wonder if the sales caught up to Nintendo would that mean using some people's logic that Sega won the 8 bit war? Course not..but even back then as demnonstrated by Segarule Sega was a thorn in nintendo's side...

Megadrive.
USA Clear win for Sega MD..biggest market which alone makes sega the worldwide winner
Hong Kong..Clear win for Sega..MD
Europe...clear win for Sega overall.
All nintendo had was Japan..and that alone wasn't enough to beat Sega during the height of the console wars..only AFTERWARDS  WHEN IT DIDN'T MATTER ANYMORE.

[Team Andromeda]

What country?
Brazil - Clear win for SMS
UK - Clear win for SMS

The NES and Famicom owned the 8 bit consoles wars and those were the biggest gaming markets back in the day. I mean MS could point out that the original XBox owned New Zealand and Australia, but it didn't help MS win the war. The difference in Hardware sales for between the NES and Master System is only some 50 million units its not even a contest really.

You mean coming from someone who can't back anything up in his lifetime

So I guess that's a no then 

[ROJM]

The NES and Famicom owned the 8 bit consoles wars and those were the biggest gaming markets back in the day. I mean MS could point out that the original XBox owned New Zealand and Australia, but it didn't help MS win the war. The difference in Hardware sales for between the NES and Master System is only some 50 million units its not even a contest really.



So I guess that's a no then 

I see that's a no that you don't have any evidence of datas sheets proving you'r stance. Stop wastying MY time fraud.
You see boys and girls..let this be the lesson of the day....I show evidence the fraud does not. The fraud can't show any evidence and now he's demanding proof on something he hasn't been able to disprove since this topic began.

So TA has no actual prove. That's a no for him each and every time.
Until you mr fraud can actually back anything up..stop pretending to be new member sthat magically appear and have no credit here to back you up. your silly games isn't gonna work here anymore.
Show us the data sheets to prove me wrong..oh wait you can't.So that's a no from you then..LOL.

[segarule]

The NES and Famicom owned the 8 bit consoles wars and those were the biggest gaming markets back in the day. I mean MS could point out that the original XBox owned New Zealand and Australia, but it didn't help MS win the war. The difference in Hardware sales for between the NES and Master System is only some 50 million units its not even a contest really.

The things don't work this form, friend. You cannot to claim a suppose a Sega not sucess with global numbers. In local context, eg Brazil, Sega had a tremendous sucess its not even a contest really. In Korea, UK, France, sms had a sucess that european developers support the sms. Sega got supporting sms good times after Genesis statement in these countries.So Sega did overcome Nintendo in other regions than USA and Japan. Not only in Brazil but in all Latinamerica. Actually, SMS pay more attention than Nes for consumers.
 

[Team Andromeda]

I see that's a no that you don't have any evidence of datas sheets proving you'r stance

Still a no then ?. Thought as much .


And want proof of Nintendo sales fig's


Here you go ....




http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/




Now try and show me where SEGA can beat those sales figures . Go on try it

You cannot to claim a suppose a Sega not success with global numbers

I'm going on Global numbers and that's when the NES owned America and Japan and those were the major gaming markets .

[Team Andromeda]

I see that's a no that you don't have any evidence of datas sheets proving you'r stance

Still a no then ?. Thought as much .


And want proof of Nintendo sales fig's


NES/Famicom - 61 million

SNES - 49 million-

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/


Now try and show me where SEGA can beat those sales figures . Go on try it,

You cannot to claim a suppose a Sega not sucess with global numbers.

I'm going on Global numbers and that's when the NES owned America and Japan and those were the major gaming markets .

[Nirmugen]

Extracted from those reports:


NES-The Americas (USA,Canada,Mexico, Brasil and others): 34 million

NES-Other (Europe,Asia, Oceania and others): 8 million

SNES-The Americas (USA,Canada,Mexico, Brasil and others): 23 million

SNES-Other (Europe,Asia, Oceania and others): 8 million


The other part:

Master System- Europe: 6.8 million (93' report).

Master System-Brazil: 5 million

MD/GEN- The Americas (USA, Canada, Brasil, Mexico and others): 28 million

MD/GEN- USA and Canada : 25 million

MD/GEN- Europe: 8.3 million

MD/GEN- Asia, Oceania, India and others: 2 million

And the ultimate analysis from that era:

http://www.netinst.org/Clements_Ohashi.pdf

[segarule]

I'm going on Global numbers and that's when the NES owned America and Japan and those were the major gaming markets .

Not fair.

NES-The Americas (USA,Canada,Mexico, Brasil and others): 34 millionNES-Other (Europe,Asia, Oceania and others): 8 million

34 +8 = 61 millions?

[Team Andromeda]

Well one looking over I like the way you're counting USA twice for the Mega Drive sales fig's. I have to say those says fig's are wrong . I'm sure SEGA Japan confirmed they sold over 3 million Mega Drive's in Japan alone and Nintendo confirmed they sold over 10 million Snes in Japan alone

So how about you get some real fig's

[Team Andromeda]

Not fair.

Life it's fair , but worldwide sales count . In the UK we saw the Zx Spectrum smash the C64, world wide sales allowed Commodore to win the war. Not that in the 8 or 16 bit days you couldn't make vasts profits by just being a good 2nd or 3rd

[segarule]

Life it's fair , but worldwide sales count . In the UK we saw the Zx Spectrum smash the C64, world wide sales allowed Commodore to win the war. Not that in the 8 or 16 bit days you couldn't make vasts profits by just being a good 2nd or 3rd

The question that you must put in yourself is: in 8 bit wars Sega was ridiculous? In Global numbers seems yes, but in local context no.

[Team Andromeda]

The question that you must put in yourself is: in 8 bit wars Sega was ridiculous?

Is anybody saying SEGA was ? There is vast difference to making out that one system sold vastly better to another, to making fun of a corp . The PS2 outsold the DC,X Box and Cube combined - Does that make those systems and their manufactures 'ridiculous' or is just the case of pointing out worldwide sales of the systems.