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Offline Sharky

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #105 on: February 05, 2015, 09:36:20 am »
Quote from: MadeManG74 on February 05, 2015, 08:21:30 am

MY God (or whoever), spun around on the spot 3 times, did a dance and said "Sega making AAA games is forbidden!"

Watch out, you might offend someone!
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Offline MadeManG74

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #106 on: February 05, 2015, 09:41:14 am »
Quote from: Sharky on February 05, 2015, 09:36:20 am
Watch out, you might offend someone!

I don't even know who at this point. Sega, Americans, Catholics or Sonic Fans round out the top four.
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Offline crackdude

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2015, 09:59:48 am »
>Alien Isolation not AAA
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Offline MadeManG74

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2015, 10:16:22 am »
Quote from: crackdude on February 05, 2015, 09:59:48 am
>Alien Isolation not AAA

>Ayyy lmao Isolation not AAArgh!
>because it's scary
>greentexting outside of 4chan
>ishygddt
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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #109 on: February 05, 2015, 10:40:51 am »
>maymay arrows

But seriously, I don't get the "Sega has no AAA" talk. Sega has multiple AAA titles, they just don't do any marketing in the West for some reason. If Yakuza and PSO were made by Microsoft, everybody would be running around shitting their pants.
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Offline MadeManG74

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #110 on: February 05, 2015, 10:53:10 am »
Didn't they try that with Yakuza 1 and it bombed anyway?


And they have AAA titles, but it's like, not Sega DNA, man.  :afroman: :afroman: :afroman:
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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #111 on: February 05, 2015, 10:57:14 am »
You guys need to play some AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA games instead
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Offline Sharky

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2015, 11:01:28 am »
Sega West is carving out its own 'DNA' and so long as the games are good I'm happy for them too. And I would say SEGA Europes games are almost always consistently good. Save for a few Total War games with a weak, buggy launch.
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Offline MadeManG74

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #113 on: February 05, 2015, 11:05:10 am »
Quote from: Sharky on February 05, 2015, 11:01:28 am
Save for a few Total War games with a weak, buggy launch.

You mean every total war game in existence, right?
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Offline Aki-at

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #114 on: February 05, 2015, 11:29:27 am »
Quote from: MadeManG74 on February 05, 2015, 11:05:10 am
You mean every total war game in existence, right?


It's clearly infected the whole medium with Destiny, Drive Club, Watchdog and Assassin's Creed.

SEGA was way ahead of their time ONCE AGAIN.
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Offline Sharky

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #115 on: February 05, 2015, 11:35:28 am »
Quote from: MadeManG74 on February 05, 2015, 11:05:10 am
You mean every total war game in existence, right?


It seems to go; the first game is full of bugs the stand alone expansion is pretty good. Example being Empires was buggy, Napoleon fixed that. Shogun 2 was buggy, Fall of the Samurai fixed that. Rome 2 was really buggy... Attila looks like it will fix that too.

I know CA get a lot of shit for releasing some buggy games, but the also release some of the most technically complicated games out there... Strategy games are some of the hardest to develop period... balance, path finding and so on are important and difficult to get right, it's rarely ever done in fact.

Fact is nobody else is doing what CA are doing. They're effectively giving you two games in one, the battle map and the campaign map are like two separate games intertwined and affect each other... In both areas the game as so much depth, not to mention historical depth... Nobody other developer is even coming CLOSE to what they're doing. I reckon those games are a mammoth undertaking to develop and I think a few launch bugs can be forgiven. Especially if they are as dedicated to patching and improving as CA are.
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Offline MadeManG74

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #116 on: February 05, 2015, 11:46:53 am »
^I can agree on that point. The games are quite big and CA are good about patching them usually. They were supporting the mess that was Rome 2 for a long ass time. I hope Attila fixes it, but I'm not holding my breath.

I will disagree about the games not having an equal for depth. Compared to Paradox's games (Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis etc), Total War's Grand Strategy aspects look like Fisher Price stuff.
As you said though, they don't offer any kind of real time tactical battles, it's purely concentrated on the grand strategy aspect.

The only game I can think of that did the Total War formula was King Arthur, which actually looked really fun, and was essentially the 'Fantasy Total War' that people were wanting.
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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #117 on: February 05, 2015, 11:50:24 am »
Quote from: Aki-at on February 05, 2015, 11:29:27 am
It's clearly infected the whole medium with Destiny, Drive Club, Watchdog and Assassin's Creed.

SEGA was way ahead of their time ONCE AGAIN.

Don't forget The Master Chief Collection.
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Offline MadeManG74

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #118 on: February 05, 2015, 12:16:07 pm »
Quote from: SuperSonicEX on February 05, 2015, 11:50:24 am
Don't forget The Master Chief Collection.

Don't forget Croc on Sega Saturn (Where the game launched and Croc had no HEAD!!). Sega really were trail-blazers. Even when patches didn't exist. (Okay so it was FOX interactive more than Sega but fuck it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z7YZ91rAGE
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Offline Aki-at

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Re: The weak arm becomes the weak finger: 300 Jobs cut at Sega America
« Reply #119 on: February 05, 2015, 12:18:57 pm »
Quote from: MadeManG74 on February 05, 2015, 12:16:07 pm
Don't forget Croc on Sega Saturn (Where the game launched and Croc had no HEAD!!). Sega really were trail-blazers. Even when patches didn't exist. (Okay so it was FOX interactive more than Sega but fuck it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z7YZ91rAGE

No you see SEGA specifically designed secret code into the Saturn so that it would gimp certain games, I can't believe you didn't know this Madehench *roll eyes*
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