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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2010, 06:50:17 pm »
It would be naive not to think that the blur in that image isn't also used to cover up for the ugly textures.

Either way, I was making a throwback at the FFXIII discussion we had before.. Not being totally serious.

I do not mean they're not advanced, but I do think the HR faces look like ass. They're too real and too awkward, making them look creepy.

Shenmue obviously looks dated, but it doesn't have that problem and has some realistic and friendly faces.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2010, 06:55:45 pm »
:| but its not.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2010, 06:58:58 pm »
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:| but its not.
it's not what? :P
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2010, 07:05:02 pm »
Blur is there to copy movie blur, like stated before. You should play the demo.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2010, 07:12:42 pm »
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Blur is there to copy movie blur, like stated before. You should play the demo.
Yeah, I know. Yes, I should.

Let me put it differently..
They took advantage of the blur being there to use dirtier textures. They look dirty to me upclose..

But I should play the demo somehow you're right..
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2010, 05:21:59 am »
I thought they did a good job capturing the faces of the actors. Example
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2010, 08:25:19 am »
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They are not Orta, they really are not. They are probably the worst models in a major game I've seen this generation and, lighting aside, could probably have been done on the Playstation 2 to an extent.

The keyword here is textures. Two random images found by Google:





I guess I have to buy me a pair of new eyes. That or Shenmue could have been done on the Saturn to an extent... Oh wait, that did happen. Just like FFXIII on PS2.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2010, 08:28:47 am »
I take it you didn't see the non-bullshot trailer with the horrible graphics?
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2010, 08:30:17 am »
Horrible graphics? Are we talking about Final Fantasy and Shenmue or Final Fantasy and Uncharted?
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2010, 08:31:41 am »
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Horrible graphics? Are we talking about Final Fantasy and Shenmue or Final Fantasy and Uncharted?

I take that as a no then.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2010, 08:34:22 am »
Yes, you do. You are telling me Shenmue has better visuals than Final Fantasy XIII. I still haven't got any convincing argument from any of you telling me otherwise, other than "all characters look the same" and "horrible graphics".
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2010, 08:41:28 am »
Wait, what?

I didn't say all visuals, I said the models, at least some. And considering you used a bullshot for example on why saying that is wrong, you really haven't convienced me that my statement is wrong either outside of here is a bullshot and here is Shenmue. We are talking about the company who dressed up the PS3 version to look like the 360 version here, a simple Google search isn't going to work.

And I am not seriously going to go through dozens of Famitsu links again to find those direct feed screenshots again.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2010, 08:41:39 am »
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nice blocky design.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2010, 08:59:10 am »
Obviously I don't mean Shenmue completely outclasses Final Fantasy XIII, for the most part the latter out does the former almost in everything. but there are some downright horrible parts in Final Fantasy XIII. This isn't to say that Shenmue is some uber game that still looks good, it just means at certain points, Final Fantasy XIII is graphically poor, very poor.
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Re: Heavy Rain should a Sega fan care?
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2010, 09:12:58 am »
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Wait, what?

I didn't say all visuals, I said the models, at least some. And considering you used a bullshot for example on why saying that is wrong, you really haven't convienced me that my statement is wrong either outside of here is a bullshot and here is Shenmue. We are talking about the company who dressed up the PS3 version to look like the 360 version here, a simple Google search isn't going to work.

And I am not seriously going to go through dozens of Famitsu links again to find those direct feed screenshots again.

Final Fantasy models have a higher polygon count and have much higher resolution textures. You just can't say they're better, because they're not. You can't say they can be done on the PS2 outside lighting, because all the PS2 can output are washed out textures. Those are not washed out textures. I suppose you could have them on PS2 IF there was a Shenmue Passport type of thing for FF games.

Technically, there is nothing on a Shenmue model that can beat a Final Fantasy XIII model. Except design, band aid and general lack of emo bullshit. But that's not technical. Who cares, I suppose we agree on which is the better game as a whole.

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