Tomb raider 2013

[semmie]

If you wanted to get on my good side, you'd make with some Jack and Coke, and a pack of Spirits or Dunhill....mmmmmm, Dunhill. I miss those. Also, stop doing what you're doing in regards to playing games aren't fucking out yet. That would be very cool of you.

Lara's attributes aren't all that unrealistic. I've seen plenty of models over the years capable of filling those cups with/without surgical "enhancement". In addition, have you actually seen movies like Commando, or American Ninja, or even James Bond? Narratively speaking, not one of the franchises you mentioned fit the Tomb Raider series. Instead, you neglected the most obvious film series; Indiana Jones. Carrying duel pistols though? Hong Kong action films come to mind, like John Woo flicks....

But Wonder Woman? Cat Woman? Seriously, semmie; CAT WOMAN?! Bite your tongue. Better yet, your fingers.

I just don't get it, semmie. I really don't.

LOL your reply is funny
ive seen the movies man. arnold was cool
and you made it fall into place

guys guys guys  my life with sega has made the perfec lingo

indiana jones
uncharted
tomb raider classic ones

but lara is a woman tho. but it fits better indeed. its similar with the artifacts and the adventures with the obstacles.

but they are really unrealistic just the way she survives no crying and all that. like she is the perfect thing . (like wonderwoman) but in an adventurous way.
and she tries to sneak in like(indiana) like u mentioned
and she acts like she is fearless like the black dude in amaerican ninja.
come on admit it she was the holywood type.
and that angelina jolie movie made it even more obvious

but now that the real realistic game has arrived everything starts to be cool

[mylifewithsega]

Yeah, because when I - a 29-year old male - play a game about a beautiful, rich Elnglish lady that likes to raid tombs for the fuck of it, shoot dinosaurs and a gigantic torso, I instantly think of realism.

So the Lara Croft in those classic titles was unrealistic because she didn't cry when she got hurt? Well, perhaps we can add "sexist" to your lengthy list of accolades. Congrats! Where can I send your T-shirt? All kidding aside, when Lara was first introduced, she was already an experienced adventurer. By that point, the woman had a thick skin. Experience hardens you whether you're a man or woman, 'kay? It makes more sense for her to be a tad soft in this new title since she's just getting started. That would've been out-of-place in the early games.

And I wasn't denying that movies had an influence on Lara Croft and her adventures; my point was that your choices were dumb....wait, you compared Lara Croft to Steve James of American Ninja because she's fearless? Seriously? Don't get me wrong, Steve James is awesome, but there are plenty of fearless characters in literature and foreign cinema that are fearless. How about Sherlock Holmes? He's pretty fucking fearless. Hell, that's the one spot where I think James Bond would have been fitting. Get this, both characters are ENGLISH ICONS!

If you actually watched Wonder Woman, you would have seen that she was stricken with fear on several occassions.

In addition, the Tomb Raider movies sucked ass because the filmmakers didn't respect the material. That's nothing new though, since Hollywood often fuck up video game-to-movie adaptations. The only one I actually loved was Silent Hill. The first two Resident Evil flicks were good, before the third came out and fucked everything up.

[semmie]

Yeah, because when I - a 29-year old male - play a game about a beautiful, rich Elnglish lady that likes to raid tombs for the fuck of it, shoot dinosaurs and a gigantic torso, I instantly think of realism.

So the Lara Croft in those classic titles was unrealistic because she didn't cry when she got hurt? Well, perhaps we can add "sexist" to your lengthy list of accolades. Congrats! Where can I send your T-shirt? All kidding aside, when Lara was first introduced, she was already an experienced adventurer. By that point, the woman had a thick skin. Experience hardens you whether you're a man or woman, 'kay? It makes more sense for her to be a tad soft in this new title since she's just getting started. That would've been out-of-place in the early games.

And I wasn't denying that movies had an influence on Lara Croft and her adventures; my point was that your choices were dumb....wait, you compared Lara Croft to Steve James of American Ninja because she's fearless? Seriously? Don't get me wrong, Steve James is awesome, but there are plenty of fearless characters in literature and foreign cinema that are fearless. How about Sherlock Holmes? He's pretty fucking fearless. Hell, that's the one spot where I think James Bond would have been fitting. Get this, both characters are ENGLISH ICONS!

If you actually watched Wonder Woman, you would have seen that she was stricken with fear on several occassions.

In addition, the Tomb Raider movies sucked ass because the filmmakers didn't respect the material. That's nothing new though, since Hollywood often fuck up video game-to-movie adaptations. The only one I actually loved was Silent Hill. The first two Resident Evil flicks were good, before the third came out and fucked everything up.

i didnt really compare the movie of tombraider with the games. actually somehow i fused them together. but your right on that they dont really respect the material. like they do most of the time.
prince of persia movies wasnt really honest since the dude didnt even look like an iranian persian. but i guess it was still better then the tomb raider one( choosing your view for the moment)

maybe its a matter of taste. i cant reallly believe a woman is that of a hard ass. ive been in the militairy untill 2001. and honestly those girls were really hard. but sometimes they had breaking moments. especially when they would have their period. i respect their nature and i love woman DUH
as for the old lara. let me put it in charts.

tomb raider 1.
nice game story mode not too long. very nice puzzles. not to much enemys. but once they were there you would shit your pants. lara was tight there.
i loved the game dont get me wrong. the game was basic but at that time the 3d together with the so called voodoo graphics card was really nice.
also the obstacles were not to underestimate. tomb raider wasnt the game that when u die u start where you were or rewind like the prince of persia of ps2
it was serious skill u need.

tomb raider2
all the above mentioned plus some more clothing and levels. one of the cool things was that when she got out of water you would see the water still drip from her. that was a nice addon. but also i started to learn about lara more cause the story line had both real movies and iside game 3d scenes. i allready felt the presence of disliking her. but i loved the game more when about action and puzzles

tomb raider 3.
the surprise. i was liking it even more. well thats what u get if u follow a movie your always curious about whats gonna happen. like in the assassins creed effect of today. you still play it but feel a presence of automatic pilot behaviour. u still play it but things become easy cause u start to understand the game makers puzze ideas.

TR4 last revelation.
honestly i only played half of it cause i just somehow was dumb enough to borrow my psx to someone who suddenly moved to another land. so i never got my psx back and basically didnt want to start from scratch.

tomb raider 5 chronicles
i played this game on the dreamcast. and i really loved it again in the name of nostalgia i felt familiar with the game. and the strange part is that i loved lara again. she was becoming the woman that i expected her to be. she talked more and was researching a lot. but also did she show feminine inside.
i finished the game with the same automatic pilot that i kinda started to have long ago.

then i basically skipped all the parts. and played tomb raider on the wii which i liked because of the new graphics. and then trilogy came and i hated the game for real this time. the game was empty loads of time. i was sick of killing raptors gorillas and wolves or t rex on that arena. i ws like yah fuck that

AND THEN

this tomb raider 2013 came
i love everything about it.. look yeah i know u dont like that i play this game cause i know your politically correct . u like to be an honest person. but apart from that. i just hope that once you play the game you come back to me and say yo sem your comparisons are weird moreover you are weird but i agree with you on this

that it is the best tomb raider ever played

[mylifewithsega]

No, semmie. What you said was that those atrocious Tomb Raider films strengthened your point that those early games were too Hollywood and American.

You were in the military? Good lord, I wouldn't trust you with a carrot peeler, let alone with a nations safety. Again, all kidding aside, men have their breaking points too. I didn't see my father cry until he watched Saving Private Ryan. Mind you, my father was a hard man. Volunteered for Vietnam, was LAPD for 31 years, etc. His friend died in a car accident, survived by a wife and newborn baby boy. Could my old man shed so much as a fuckin' tear? Nope. But let me pop in Saving Private Ryan though and it's Niagara Falls. What the fuck?!

Men break too; even in the fictional world. John McClane cried when he asked Al to apologize to Holly on his behalf. Rambo broke down in First Blood.

However, that shit has nothing to do with our fantasy lives, which Tomb Raider falls under. It's pure fantasy. Resident Evil is pure fantasy. Metal Gear Solid is fantasy. Panzer Dragoon is fantasy. If gamers wanted an accurate depiction of reality in 1996, I doubt it would have sold as many copies. Then again, I could be wrong.

[semmie]

but dont you agree that woman cry much more?

and u seem to look so like a muslim . my muslim friend samir looks exactly like you. i wear to god i would see you outside and would mistaken myself talking to u like u were samir.
its ok tho. u look cool in my opinion.

the irony im thinking of converting to islam

but that aside huh. yes well its obvious that fantasy does the spell. u wont see any person jump from gap to gap knowing that there is a whole deep like yards or chains. and u wont see anyone walk and climb a wall very high and knowing that there are spikes everywhere. a real person wuld say well thats not worth the artifact

what is worth in life is your wife kids father and mother and brother and family or even your neighbor LOL

and once she has thse artifacts she has to still go on.
in real life that would take a lot and a very person if he knws there are artifacts he would go up there in a team.
well ofcourse she was in a team nd that team got killes. like in many tomb raiders she is the one that survives and kills everyone on her own
like commando arnold shizzle. but the thing is she wont be saving her daughter. nor is she james bond getting layed with a shining woman of the 80s  . no

instead of all she gets an artifact to look at

but this is the negative view. i like the game tho

[mylifewithsega]

No, I don't. Although, most of my friends are men and many are teenagers I kinda' mentor. I've heard a lot of whoppers in my time....

"I can't believe the bitch broke up with me over fuckin' Facebook!" *sob*

"Dude, she totally fucked Mandy! What the fuck is wrong with me?" *sob*

"My folks won't let me go to Florida." *sob*

Not to say women don't cry over silly shit, but they're no worse than men. Not in my experience, at least. My female friends are generally older, more worldly, tomboyish. I have a few that are some years younger than me and their issues....are a bit a harder to discuss in open forum.

Our nethers aren't an accurate gauge for understanding a person's emotional reaction to any given situtation; life experience is. Then again, perhaps you're trying to tell me that Dutch women are weak and powerless? Is that it, semmie?

[semmie]

No, I don't. Although, most of my friends are men and many are teenagers I kinda' mentor. I've heard a lot of whoppers in my time....

"I can't believe the bitch broke up with me over fuckin' Facebook!" *sob*

"Dude, she totally fucked Mandy! What the fuck is wrong with me?" *sob*

"My folks won't let me go to Florida." *sob*

Not to say women don't cry over silly shit, but they're no worse than men. Not in my experience, at least. My female friends are generally older, more worldly, tomboyish. I have a few that are some years younger than me and their issues....are a bit a harder to discuss in open forum.

Our nethers aren't an accurate gauge for understanding a person's emotional reaction to any given situtation; life experience is. Then again, perhaps you're trying to tell me that Dutch women are weak and powerless? Is that it, semmie?

wek and powerless is a whole different thing that is different to every individual.
but i know for a fact that woman cry more. but not because their weak.

its like this man and woman is equal
but not the same
they can have babys  we cant
i have sperm. they got the egg
i have a muscled chest. they got beautiful round breasts.

the original man is an alpha male. to speak of anno 2013 man became fragile and cry more and more
to an extend that woman nowadays might just be stronger.
but in an normal world a man must go on cause he has a responsible duty

did you see hord of woman fighting vietnam. ofcourse not they were man
its just to show u the difference.
if u would let the best fighter of mma anderson silva fight the best of mma woman miesha tate or gina carano. who would win?

they are accurate if you focus on the nature of man and woman

they are not accurate when you look at the practice of today where man ought to do like woman and cry like a sissy weener boy. and thats anno 2013

but where i come from nd the circle im in we are the man that we should be. ofcourse we could cry. i could cry if my mother is gone or daughter. pls dont let that be truth. amen.
but i wont cry all day ye know and not for fear. i m not fearless. i may be affraid but i wont cry and try to gather things together. im sure you would as well.

lara isnt a realistic character. but exceptions occure even in real life. brave someone.

but i have to forward u to the artifact thing. when u really think about it its really ridiculous fighting for an artifact to look at

[Barry the Nomad]

Confirmed: Semmie has one sperm.

It is called... THE ONE.

[mylifewithsega]

wek and powerless is a whole different thing that is different to every individual.
but i know for a fact that woman cry more. but not because their weak.

its like this man and woman is equal
but not the same
they can have babys  we cant
i have sperm. they got the egg
i have a muscled chest. they got beautiful round breasts.

the original man is an alpha male. to speak of anno 2013 man became fragile and cry more and more
to an extend that woman nowadays might just be stronger.
but in an normal world a man must go on cause he has a responsible duty

did you see hord of woman fighting vietnam. ofcourse not they were man
its just to show u the difference.
if u would let the best fighter of mma anderson silva fight the best of mma woman miesha tate or gina carano. who would win?

they are accurate if you focus on the nature of man and woman

they are not accurate when you look at the practice of today where man ought to do like woman and cry like a sissy weener boy. and thats anno 2013

but where i come from nd the circle im in we are the man that we should be. ofcourse we could cry. i could cry if my mother is gone or daughter. pls dont let that be truth. amen.
but i wont cry all day ye know and not for fear. i m not fearless. i may be affraid but i wont cry and try to gather things together. im sure you would as well.

lara isnt a realistic character. but exceptions occure even in real life. brave someone.

but i have to forward u to the artifact thing. when u really think about it its really ridiculous fighting for an artifact to look at

Actually, women played an important role in defending Vietnam from '45 to '75. Vietnamese women, that is. As for the United States, roughly 7,000 women served during that police action if I remember correctly. We're talking Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force. Admittedly, most were nurses. Thet has more to do with our patriarchal society, I feel; not because they weren't physically or emotionally capable. Would you like to try again, semmie? On second thought, please don't.

Lara may not be a realistic character. Again, she's rich, smart, capable, beautiful, puts herself in harms way for free, etc. Again, I don't think we were playing Tomb Raider in 1996 for realism. I'm pretty sure I made that abundantly clear in my previous posts, which makes me question whether or not you're actually paying attention.

The so-called "normal" view of sexuality you have is woefully outdated, sir. What you call "normal" is now defined as "unusual". You know what, that describes you pretty well. You're like a high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
 

[crackdude]

Too weird to live, too rare to die.

That is one kickass title for Semmie's biography after he becomes president.

[semmie]

Actually, women played an important role in defending Vietnam from '45 to '75. Vietnamese women, that is. As for the United States, roughly 7,000 women served during that police action if I remember correctly. We're talking Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force. Admittedly, most were nurses. Thet has more to do with our patriarchal society, I feel; not because they weren't physically or emotionally capable. Would you like to try again, semmie? On second thought, please don't.

Lara may not be a realistic character. Again, she's rich, smart, capable, beautiful, puts herself in harms way for free, etc. Again, I don't think we were playing Tomb Raider in 1996 for realism. I'm pretty sure I made that abundantly clear in my previous posts, which makes me question whether or not you're actually paying attention.

The so-called "normal" view of sexuality you have is woefully outdated, sir. What you call "normal" is now defined as "unusual". You know what, that describes you pretty well. You're like a high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
 

1st i did read what u said about the realistic and fantasy thing. but i just wantd to add something to it.

as for the nurses in the army i dont really consider that an infanterist function. but i d acknowledge that it is necessary. the dark side of those compagnie is that those woman in kosovo of the nursing used t fuck all the infanterists. they were having sex just as much as healing the peletons.

the other thing u mentioned is that there were actually really infanterists in the army. you wont hear me denying that cause if u red my posts i had them besides me. and they would cry many times. its a fact also that a woman in her period is different. even my wife will tell u that. the one moment they will tell u they want strawberrys. and when you buy the strawberry they will say no i rather have chocolate.

and if u had loads of girlfriends in the past u would know that.

a woman in base and nature is different.
i appreciate that you want to make the difference. and somehow you give the impression of a feminism support. which of i think its right so no harm there.
woman deserve much better then just to be stamped.
but also woman should know that we man honor them because of the sacrifice they make for their children.

anno 2013. woman make babys put them on maxicosi to do msn or whatsapp. and then they work 5 days a week. and after they get headache and wonder why?
i dont have an image i want to propogate but im fully convinced about our nature that i fully respect.

this brings me to the topic
and yes yes yes yu allready said its fantasy. and i finished the game right? so i liked the game as well.
but if u stand still and re anticipate consider the whole thing its kinda crazy.


too weird to live too rare to die


ill take that as a compliment. my friends always say im weird. but they count on me more then others. now thats where you get to know your real friends right? this crazy ass mo fo turns out to be a real G

and guess what? were meeting G over there

[mylifewithsega]

1st i did read what u said about the realistic and fantasy thing. but i just wantd to add something to it.

as for the nurses in the army i dont really consider that an infanterist function. but i d acknowledge that it is necessary. the dark side of those compagnie is that those woman in kosovo of the nursing used t fuck all the infanterists. they were having sex just as much as healing the peletons.

the other thing u mentioned is that there were actually really infanterists in the army. you wont hear me denying that cause if u red my posts i had them besides me. and they would cry many times. its a fact also that a woman in her period is different. even my wife will tell u that. the one moment they will tell u they want strawberrys. and when you buy the strawberry they will say no i rather have chocolate.

and if u had loads of girlfriends in the past u would know that.

a woman in base and nature is different.
i appreciate that you want to make the difference. and somehow you give the impression of a feminism support. which of i think its right so no harm there.
woman deserve much better then just to be stamped.
but also woman should know that we man honor them because of the sacrifice they make for their children.

anno 2013. woman make babys put them on maxicosi to do msn or whatsapp. and then they work 5 days a week. and after they get headache and wonder why?
i dont have an image i want to propogate but im fully convinced about our nature that i fully respect.

this brings me to the topic
and yes yes yes yu allready said its fantasy. and i finished the game right? so i liked the game as well.
but if u stand still and re anticipate consider the whole thing its kinda crazy.


too weird to live too rare to die


ill take that as a compliment. my friends always say im weird. but they count on me more then others. now thats where you get to know your real friends right? this crazy ass mo fo turns out to be a real G

and guess what? were meeting G over there

Vietnamese women were soldiers. Here I thought that was common knowledge. Forgive me.

So nurses are loose? Good to know. I've met several Navy women that will bang seaman when their abroad for cash, or take on part-time jobs as strippers. That be know, I must ask the $64,000 question; what does this have to do with Lara Croft and her "unrealistic" behavior?

I'm well aware of the mysteries surrounding a woman's menstrul cycle, semmie. Since my family's big on TMI, and I've gone through 17 women in 6 years, I can tell you that not all women react the same way during their cycle. I've dated caucasian, black, hispanic, from 18-34, before and after having children. I've walked the block a time or two, good sir, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that not all women act irrationally during their cycle. When you've played the field a bit, you pick up things.

Take the "too weird to live, too rare to die" comment however you wish. However, don't use it for your presidential campaign unless you desire a lawsuit with Hunter S. Thompson's estate. In the meantime, I'll pray for the Belgians.

[semmie]

Vietnamese women were soldiers. Here I thought that was common knowledge. Forgive me.

So nurses are loose? Good to know. I've met several Navy women that will bang seaman when their abroad for cash, or take on part-time jobs as strippers. That be know, I must ask the $64,000 question; what does this have to do with Lara Croft and her "unrealistic" behavior?

I'm well aware of the mysteries surrounding a woman's menstrul cycle, semmie. Since my family's big on TMI, and I've gone through 17 women in 6 years, I can tell you that not all women react the same way during their cycle. I've dated caucasian, black, hispanic, from 18-34, before and after having children. I've walked the block a time or two, good sir, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that not all women act irrationally during their cycle. When you've played the field a bit, you pick up things.

Take the "too weird to live, too rare to die" comment however you wish. However, don't use it for your presidential campaign unless you desire a lawsuit with Hunter S. Thompson's estate. In the meantime, I'll pray for the Belgians.

i dont wanna be president. ill be glad to admit that im not qualified.
the difference here my dear sega fan is that i say what i say. and actually be cool with it.
the danger of a president is his hypocritical self. actually that he know what he is saying. and that he knows that people like hearing it. and that he knows that he is not gonna do it for the 99 procent. once chosen as a president he cant do anything without the ministery of finance. so he still even if he is a good president has to beg for money for the cause. and if he doesnt get it he has to basically come with propaganda excuses and people will believe in it.

except the poor and the smart ones

the fact that the president is not the leader. but the secret fore runners the free masons. that u will never know by name.

woman like lara croft do really exist. im only talking about the certain character. and yes every woman has her own ways of dealing with the period. a human being cant be put in a corner with all the stereotypical attributes. even tho i use that sometimes as a basic. cause stereotypes are misleading if u take it to categorised. but it is a basic and sometimes truth.
we both man and woman have our flaws anyways.

we could stop about woman and talk about the man his flaws and nature and perfections. coincedentally we talk about woman. and i admit to be the one wh started it. its because lara craft as a character is a very rare something to be. you will find even lesbian claiming to be man in their hearts fall back in their honest female nature and cry in secrecy.
so this previous britisch with british accent woman with a nice figure and tuff talk just doesnt fit with the reality.

and i think tomb raider 2013 does.
untill then my sega fellow man. ill rest my case from here and i will gladly read a reply to this conversation.
and pls tell me if u like tomb raider 2013 once u played it. im curious if your opinion changes.
will u like the old classic one or the new one? or both? or will u be like: why did they have to change so drastically because now the classic lara doesnt exist anymore

[Nameless 24]

Still, I'm not sure how I feel about this new game. How many times can they reboot Lara Croft?

Every generation, and Square Enix is joining in with Final Fantasies XIII/XIV! LOL

I will give Crystal Dynamics credit here, they know how to make a good game most of the time (Legacy of Kain and Pandemonium...and yes I enjoyed the latter VERY much!)

I am confident they rebooted Lara Croft "right".

As for Vietnamese woman, from what I watched once on youtube, they are so hot! Nothing like I have seen before in the rest of Asia, and people call all Asians the same....

[crackdude]

I heard that at some point in the game you can make Lara get her head impaled.

Might get this game now.