Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1

[Aki-at]

We would all love this game if it came out right after Sonic 3 & Knuckles? What is this? If I did not enjoy Sonic the Hedgehog CD as much back in the day as I did the other four games, it goes to show I probably would not enjoy this game as much as I did the others.

It's silly to think like that, since it happens to be another assumption and I could very well say if this came out after Sonic & Knuckles it would get as bad reception as it would be held to an even higher standards.

Ifs and buts are a silly thing to throw into an argument since the other side could easily use it themselves.

[crackdude]

Of course. But I'm kind of struggling to explain my point correctly..

The game is (besides it's flaws) being prematurely judged based on preconceived notions of what it should be.
My point was that had it been released back then, today's notions for a Sonic game could be different (depending on the success/failure of the game).

I'm not defending the game's flaws, that's pointless and idiotic.

But I do believe homing attack gameplay can also potentially be fun.

[Dr. SEGA Monkey]

So a game that features uncurling does not feel like a Sonic game (despite the fact that you haven't even felt it yourself) however a game that features pre-act hubs, unbalanced tag team moves, grinding and this method of obtaining chaos emeralds: The player needs to find 10 chao per level in order to access the Special Stage and earn Chaos Emeralds feels like a classic Sonic game?

I was mostly referring to basic Sonic logic like speeding up while rolling and whatnot.

And I have never complained about uncurling or Homing Attack. I have only been complaining about the physics engine. The engine is a huge mess in my opinion, and it seems to be a step down from the Rush engine in terms of oddities and other stuff.

Also, Advance 3 is amazing. Anybody who says it's horrible is wrong!! :evil:  :evil:

[CrazyT]

Has Rubyeclipse gone hopeless??

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=347080

Seriously, I have never seen such a shameless way of convincing people to give them money. Wow...

Guess the quality alone wasn't enough for people to be all excited to take the initiative themselves.

[Orta]

I am true blue, I've been a fan for almost 20 years and all I ever got from Sega was a keyboard. Fucking lol, now I need to buy multiple copies of Sonic the Mess 4 to show how much of a fan I am. Maybe I should photograph my collection and post it there.

[Barry the Nomad]

Well I'm already confirmed to be getting the iPod and 360 versions, so looks like I made the list.

I'm starting my iPhone review already! Just the intro paragraphs discussing SEGA and Sonic's history with handhelds and the iPhone specifically. It's looking to be quite a big write up. I haven't even gotten to the review section (obviously, game ain't out yet) and I already have 2 paragraphs.

[CrazyT]

Well whatever.

There was a special Sonic the hedgehog 4 coverage at CNET with rubyeclipse as a guest playing 3 full stages on the show.

This actually shows a lot of the game.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20018674-1.html

Enjoy

[Sharky]

But the guy is trying to sell the game, that is his job. I know if I worked on a game I'd be pushing it harder and more shamelessly then this.

I don't see him pushing people too buy more copies, I see him saying IF YOU DO then we'll give you a shout out. Seems fair to me... If you are stupid enough to suddenly want to buy more copies then you originally were going to because you want to be mentioned on a blog then A) you deserve to lose the money and B) Ruby desverse to have it.

[fluffymoochicken]

I'm starting my iPhone review already! Just the intro paragraphs discussing SEGA and Sonic's history with handhelds and the iPhone specifically. It's looking to be quite a big write up. I haven't even gotten to the review section (obviously, game ain't out yet) and I already have 2 paragraphs.

This isn't for Segabits, is it?

[CrazyT]

But the guy is trying to sell the game, that is his job. I know if I worked on a game I'd be pushing it harder and more shamelessly then this.

I don't see him pushing people too buy more copies, I see him saying IF YOU DO then we'll give you a shout out. Seems fair to me... If you are stupid enough to suddenly want to buy more copies then you originally were going to because you want to be mentioned on a blog then A) you deserve to lose the money and B) Ruby desverse to have it.

It just seems so desperate to stop this game from failing. I'm sorry but I have never seen a company abuse they're fans in such a way. It disgusts me to be honest.

I understand that ruby really wants this to succeed, but at the same time i'm like, are you fucking desperate ?? Are you not confident about your product?? Why fgs?

I.. honestly don't know what to say...

Edit: If this shit would hit the media, what do you think the general response would be?

[Sharky]

Edit: If this shit would hit the media, what do you think the general response would be?

Probably the same over blown, drama filled reaction as I'm seeing now? I'm sure.

But trying to keep this in perspective, I'd say he's simply doing his job and hasn't once told people they must go out and buy it multiple times. Instead he's saying those that have done will get a mention on the blog...

I don't think this is going to sway ANYONE to by more copies then they already planned too unless these people are complete mindless sheep... Which, in that case they deserve it.

[Barry the Nomad]

I'm starting my iPhone review already! Just the intro paragraphs discussing SEGA and Sonic's history with handhelds and the iPhone specifically. It's looking to be quite a big write up. I haven't even gotten to the review section (obviously, game ain't out yet) and I already have 2 paragraphs.

This isn't for Segabits, is it?

It'll be on the bits and at my blog, only difference will be the scoring. Nomad 'Yard will be out of 5 nomads, bits will be the letter grade system. I think I've translated it correctly, a 5 to 1 Nomad rating = A,B,C,D,F in bits ratings.

edit: as for Ruby, I'd say relax on it. Like Ryan mentioned, he;s just doing his job and buying more than one version isn't being made a requirement. It's just a fun way of rewarding the super fans. Think of it as a producer credit for funding the next game. In fact, what if the secret he's talking about is a producer credit on Episode 2? To be featured in the in-game creidts would be rather awesome. I'd pay $55 for that. Baaaa!

[fluffymoochicken]

It'll be on the bits and at my blog, only difference will be the scoring. Nomad 'Yard will be out of 5 nomads, bits will be the letter grade system. I think I've translated it correctly, a 5 to 1 Nomad rating = A,B,C,D,F in bits ratings.

Meh... well, it is just the iPhone version.

Are you going to be reviewing the console versions on here, too? I might need to say my peace on the matter, if so.

[Barry the Nomad]

I'm certain a number of things in the iOS version could apply to the console versions in my review, especially level design and music. I'm leaving the console versions to others here, hey maybe even a non-writer will submit a review before Sharky, George or Nuckles does! I'd actually love to see a few reviews of the console versions simply because the community has such varying opinions on the game. It'd be awesome if, perhaps, the PS3, 360 and Wii versions each receive their own reviews from different reviewers.

[fluffymoochicken]

I feel that the perfect reviewer for the console versions would have to be somebody who hasn't already convinced themselves that this is a great game before it's been released. I say this from standpoint that Segabits doesn't need to appear to outsiders as a group of fanboys who are handing out free lunches to SEGA.

I would volunteer, but then I'm not sure that I could forgive myself for spending $15 on a game that I might breeze through in a very short afternoon.