Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1

[MadeManG74]

Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now... You tell me what you know.

Also Sharky, I've tried to keep my voice down about this game since release, I don't think I complain about it THAT much. I don't even particularly hate it at this point, just kinda don't care.

[Barry the Nomad]

Just played Sonic 4 and enjoyed it! Can't wait for episode 2.

[crackdude]

Just played Sonic 4 and enjoyed it! Can't wait for episode 2.

[Orta]

OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG!

This was Sanus reaction. As I was listening to him over Skype, he would say "OMG" intertwined with a number of rude words. I love first impressions.

So his first impressions of a game he had already desided he hated before playing it... Was hateing it... Didn't see that one coming!

What ever next!?

Mindless sheep make me hate it too.

[Barry the Nomad]

Does anybody think Tails will be playable in episode 2? I really wonder how [spoiler:2vyqjtk7]Metal Sonic[/spoiler:2vyqjtk7] will come into play. Here's hoping for a non-racing battle with him.

[Orta]

He will pilot the Tornado. <insert bad joke about physics and stationary airplanes>

I can see why they wouldn't include Tails as a playable character. People would definitely DEMAND for him to be playable in episode 1 and that's a bit of a problem to my understanding (at least on the Wii). I can see Tails being playable in the same fashion as he was in Sonic 2, infinite lives and all.

[CrazyT]

Tails with a homing attack, anyone? Would make sense since he also got the spindash.

[Sharky]

Mindless sheep make me hate it too.

Out of curiosity, who here is a mindless sheep?

[Sega Stylista]

I'm still playing Sonic 4 trying to get that last Chaos emerald. That is what I love about digital games..I can take a break from Vanquish and go straight into Sonic 4 without having to switch disks.

That this isn't the holy grail of Sonic 2D's is probably something to let go of by now.  It's a conservative and calculated stepping back into the 2D Sonic arena buy Sega. This was an experiment in order for Sega to test demand and I fully expect future Sonic 2D titles will be more for the success this game has likely enjoyed.  All in all, this was a fun and decent first step in a long road back.

Anyone know sales and revenue figures from Sega, I would be interested in reading them. Please share.

[Sega Uranus]

Just played Sonic 4 and enjoyed it! Can't wait for episode 2.

This is the kind of shit that makes people like me an Orta call you guys mindless. I dare you to look through every post of ours, because neither of us have ever said we did not want people to like it or enjoy it in any way. In fact I have gone out of my way to say I am actually glad that not everyone hates it. People like you on the other hand pick out all of our posts and insinuate the most annoying shit in the world. Seriously, just stop it.

I am also hoping it sells good enough for Sonic Team to realize they fucked up but also that other developers realize there is a good market for new platformers on the digital platforms now. Same with Costume Quest, I hope that does good enough for other developers to consider more original RPGs on there. Or even just more ports would be cool.

[Barry the Nomad]

But you're not answering the real question: will Tails be in Episode 2?

But srsly, if you really want people to stop with "that kind of shit" then perhaps stop calling people "mindless drones" and "sheep".

People like you on the other hand pick out all of our posts and insinuate the most annoying shit in the world. Seriously, just stop it.

Oh now now, I've seen you do this exact same thing on these forums. Don't use the "you people" thing. We're all argumentative little shits who need to chill out and stop with the stupid insults.

Baaaaaaaa!

[Sega Uranus]

But srsly, if you really want people to stop with "that kind of shit" then perhaps stop calling people "mindless drones" and "sheep".

That came after as a response for the people who specifically would only defend everything about the game, regardless of how silly a topic it was. Obviously it will not stop when I only mentioned people being mindless twice and Orta only did once, no one else did it, but they are getting shit for it anyways.

Oh now now, I've seen you do this exact same thing on these forums.

Only because people were trying to defend Namco games. That is just disgusting.

We're all argumentative little shits who need to chill out and stop with the stupid insults.

Baaaaaaaa!

I think it is a bit of an achievement that after all of this year we only recently brought in insults that only go as far as these do. You sexy, sexy man, you

But you're not answering the real question: will Tails be in Episode 2?

Obviously.

/Episode I topic.

[crackdude]

Baaaaaaaa!

I miss my chao...


And geez Sanus it was a joke. Loose up a bit dude..  

[Sega Stylista]

All this bitching about the physics and people don't stop and ask "why?" the physics where changed.

Was it some arbitrary design change? No.

The genesis of Sonic's old school physics and mechanics were based in a design choice meant to differentiate the game from Mario while showing off the faster processor of the Megadrive.

Sonic today is meant to be played by iphone owning casuals and Mario playing little kids that aren't dedicated gamers.

The uncurling, the ability to extend flight with a jump, homing attack, and the slower speed are all intentionally there to make the game more accessible to today's expanded gaming audience.

It's not rational to expect the physics to change to something more hardcore when that is going to exclude a lot of the market that Sega is going after.  And I'm not defending the physics in saying that.. I'm just saying wake up and realize why things are the way they are rather than continue to pointlessly ask for what isn't going to happen the way things are now.

[max_cady]

I guess that slowing down Sonic would make him a little easier to control and Iizuka did say he wanted Sonic to appeal just a little more to the Mario crowd, so some changes would be inevitable, the Donkey Kong-ish style of those character models seems to be an indication of that.

But just one second, I can understand why some might dislike Sonic 4, it's a 2D Sonic game entirely built from the ground-up and there seems to be a dash of Sonic Unleashed into it, through the constant use of speed bumps that are there only to propel the player foward, but they serve exactly that purpose.