I didn't play the last demo, but from the footage I've seen for modern Sky Sanctuary, I think Sonic Team has never been this close to achieving my "ideal" Sonic 3D game.
Finally they decided to introduce a lot of 3D platforming, something that annoyed me in Unleashed and especially Colors is that you have to switch to 2D to do platforming, its like the team can't introduce compelling 3D platforming at all.
But things are different from the latest Generations footage, not only the level design works great for the 3D platforming, the camera also positions itself nicely.
It still looks rough around the edges, but I think if they improve the movement on how Sonic controls, put in more platforming elements and gimmicks and generally better level design... I think that will be a perfect 3D Sonic game.
Generations is the step in the right direction as far as 3D Sonic is concerned.
I also think that if the PC version is mod-friendly, the community will make the game a lot better (adjusted physics, new levels, etc...)
Yes, it is indeed a big jump for Sonic, but it kind of makes half of the game weird at the same time, like are those last 10 years of games really worth celebrating at all?
Although I am very happy the 3D platforming is getting more attention now, exploration is fairly low. You kind of just keep going if you missed the higher path, you know what I mean? In the Genesis games, even sometimes in Sonic Adventure you could go back and look elsewhere, with no camera controls in Generations (literally none at all), I am worried that future titles will have even less of this. I really miss the adventure fields...
On the topic of hacking, I am very excited for a lot of things. One is that if you try to go backwards in the last section of the modern level, you will see a lot of stuff not visable before, like a whole other waterfall. They should have had a mirror mode where you play going backwards, but I hope hackers add this.
Rather silly, For one its keeping faith with classic that you can finished the classic Sonic so early , just like MD sonic and then there's the fact that no-one would put up with the modern Sonic demo's being able to be finished in under 40 sec's , where more or less as soon as you pick up full speed the level would finish (it would be slated if such a broken mechanic was in place)
That's looking over you haven't played the latter classic 2D sections where more and more platforming came in, just like with the MD Sonic, which were very simple and basic with Sonic and Sonic II, but got much deeper with Sonic III ECT
I'm sure Uranus you're just posting such silly nonsense to wind people and get a response and its works tbf ;D
Of course, any problems anyone has with Sonic Team is a trolling effort, you found me out!
What about Labyrinth Zone? That was a shockingly vertical set of levels. Scrap Brain Zone also had some very clever (and not so clever) layout designs, not basic at all.
I don't think they are trying to make one sonic seem better than the other at all, I think they are doing what Sonic fans requested- making a bare bone classic Sonic experience with very little in the way of moves. The problem is that in this day and age people do expect more to their games than jump and roll.
Oh? Well, then that would explain why New Super Mario Brothers Wii outsold both "Deeper" Super Mario Galaxy titles combined or how Donkey Kong Country Returns has outsold every game in the series after the Super Nintendo games or how Street Fighter IV practically reinvented and reinvigorated the genre by almost entirely emulating Street Fighter II, but I digress.
I would love to see the classic mode have some new moves but still be in a 2D perspective with physics based gameplay. I'm not really apposed to things like double jumping, stomp, bounce, shit even the homing attack as a pick up item would be cool.
While I can easily agree many classic fans are stuck in the past, modern fans are just as bad, thinking elements like Wisps are necessary going forward. In the classic games, the sheilds were all optional and changed very little as to what you could do. As the series progressed, too many ideas were forced into one with games like Heroes and 06 being the worst offenders.
The original Sonic trilogy was very deep. The way the engine works is very unique and the level design needs to run hand in hand with this to really express itself. Things like Wisps do not evolve this design, they specifically
hold back the game as not only do you have to unlock some and revisit past locations, but you also need to specifically design the levels with them in mind instead of Sonic's basic elements. For instance, in the classic games you would have to speed up and then roll to break a wall, but with something like Wisps (not necessarily them, just unlockable moves in general) you would just grab that item located right next to the wall and then use it to crash through it. If you did not unlock that move then you have to go back to the level later. Any character would be able to do something like this, Sonic Team keeps giving less and less identity to each character like this, like why do we see Amy running at a similar speed to Sonic now?
Which is not to say I hate Wisps. I think they were great for just their one spinoff, but if they tried to introduce them again people would find it dull and uninteresting. Like the light speed dash, it seems so awkward and out of place now for Sonic to randomly follow a line of rings in the air. Now it is all scripted, so there is only ever like just one line of rings in a level you need to go through, and they respawn in some games now too. This concept should be abandoned.
You're right, but those are the best for the best of XBLA/PSN games are of high quality. They're anything but amateur, it isn’t a case of Sonic Generations being bad its those particular games being of very high quality.
I still would say Sonic Generations is a far better game in pretty much every aspect.
Well I am glad you never thought of looking up the games at all, because they are just fairly basic games with the exception of Super Meat Boy just came out within the past month and are very low key releases.
Sonic Generations in comparison is a retail game with over 100 people working on it, a much larger budget, publisher and general scope. It also is hard to compare because it builds off of 20 years of progress and failures. The fact that people can compare these types of games at all is fairly upsetting.
