The Console War..the truth...

[segarule]

The subject's topic is: The Console War..the truth...


Don't seems to me "The Console sales war..."


Anyway cannot claim considering only global sales. For example, like as quoted above, if Sega seems loser in global sales, the Big S established, the market's name in America, Korea, Europa, confirming the Genesis performance much better.


PS: Remembering that Sega was a small enterprise in opposite to Nintendo.

[ROJM]

Still a no then ?. Thought as much .

Just as i thought..no prove at all...LOL...

[ROJM]

Extracted from those reports:


NES-The Americas (USA,Canada,Mexico, Brasil and others): 34 million

NES-Other (Europe,Asia, Oceania and others): 8 million

SNES-The Americas (USA,Canada,Mexico, Brasil and others): 23 million

SNES-Other (Europe,Asia, Oceania and others): 8 million


The other part:

Master System- Europe: 6.8 million (93' report).

Master System-Brazil: 5 million

MD/GEN- The Americas (USA, Canada, Brasil, Mexico and others): 28 million

MD/GEN- USA and Canada : 25 million

MD/GEN- Europe: 8.3 million

MD/GEN- Asia, Oceania, India and others: 2 million

And the ultimate analysis from that era:

http://www.netinst.org/Clements_Ohashi.pdf

Why are you wasting you're time? All TA could do was get a frigging post from Nintendo..he's lost we all KNOW it and now he's picking on i can't prove anything when he hasn't been unable to PROVE a thing. Don't waste you're time on this fraud...

[ROJM]

The subject's topic is: The Console War..the truth...


Don't seems to me "The Console sales war..."


Anyway cannot claim considering only global sales. For example, like as quoted above, if Sega seems loser in global sales, the Big S established, the market's name in America, Korea, Europa, confirming the Genesis performance much better.


PS: Remembering that Sega was a small enterprise in opposite to Nintendo.

The guy's a joke Sega rule This is a summery of TA in this type of debate


When i said SOJ screwed over Sega of America..and systematically shut their production houses down and killed off Sonic

TA:NO NO NO NO

Years later..a whole book comes out BACKING everything i said years ago.

four years back..Me and Jonboy said that SOJ originated the idea of the 32x not Sega of America.
We BOTH show evidence to back us up...

TA;NO NO NO NO ..you're wrong..I'M CORRECT...

last year..he basically tries to spin it by maintaining that SOA created the system. I counted it by using quotes from the same people who said SOJ had the concept in the first place.

EC game sales 2 million..
Shown evidence

TA ignores evidence and says NO NO NO NO

Got back up by JB at the end...

Capcom losing money..Sega having more money
Me..George(modand co founder of Segabits) Aki..(the guy who knows about finances and posts reports on them)and countless others said capcom lost money and haven't been succesful
We all show evidence to back our statements up
TA preceeds in a senseless distracting topic of wall of quotes spinning and lying on what others have said just to prove a point that he has already lost on.

You see..he's even doing it now..he has if you read this whole topic not shown one bit of ACTUAL evidence to back himself up..using cash reserves to prove a point when profit and cash reserves are two different things..and now spinning something on me showing proof that he can't himself prove.The guy is a joke.

[Team Andromeda]

So still no data sheet, Thought as much.   C'mon on Joe show me the proof that shows The Master System or the Mega Drive worldwide sales  fig's came anywhere near that of the NES or the Snes .

Ever do it, or just admit you're wrong .

[ROJM]

So still no data sheet, Thought as much.   C'mon on Joe show me the proof that shows The Master System or the Mega Drive worldwide sales  fig's came anywhere near that of the NES or the Snes .

Ever do it, or just admit you're wrong .

So you STILL have no data sheet to counterpoint me?
That's eight threads now...and still its a no from you but you can't say it.EIGHT THREADS dude and NO data sheet from you. You're making yourself look stupid everytime to post. This gets easy everytime.

[jonboy101]

So still no data sheet, Thought as much.   C'mon on Joe show me the proof that shows The Master System or the Mega Drive worldwide sales  fig's came anywhere near that of the NES or the Snes .

Ever do it, or just admit you're wrong .

I don't think that was the point - he was saying that the Gen outsold the SNES during the Gen's lifetime, which I thought he did demonstrate. I don't think he ever made the claim the SMS came anywhere near striking distance of NES.

[ROJM]

I don't think that was the point - he was saying that the Gen outsold the SNES during the Gen's lifetime, which I thought he did demonstrate. I don't think he ever made the claim the SMS came anywhere near striking distance of NES.

Again the typical TA spin machine strikes again....you shouldn't be suprised about it by now..JB. And he still can't prove otherwise. If the Genesis had the majority of sales in america..from a great lead..which they also had in Europe...Two of the biggest markets...there is no way that Nintendo had world domination with the SNES just because of japan. That only factored in because the SNES kept selling in the states after everyone moved on.
Also JB i pose you this question..The SNES lost money...because the system wasn't selling for full price..which Genesis/MD was able to for a whole year before they brought the price down.

[Team Andromeda]

I don't think that was the point - he was saying that the Gen outsold the SNES during the Gen's lifetime, which I thought he did demonstrate. I don't think he ever made the claim the SMS came anywhere near striking distance of NES.

No, The MD outselling the Snes in the USA or even the UK was never the question - I was quite clear and talking about Worldwide sales . Now  by all means either you or Joe or show me the world wide fig's that show the MD sold better than the Snes .

[Team Andromeda]

If the Genesis had the majority of sales in america..from a great lead..which they also had in Europe...Two of the biggest markets

It had the UK and USA, but the 'crucial' point is the Snes was able to be a very good 2nd in those markets . In Japan the Snes outsold the Mega Drive but some 12 million units  wiping out any of the main gains for the MD in the West that's the big difference


So C'Mon either show us the sales data that shows the Mega Drive outsold the Snes on the World Stage, or just admit you can't and you're wrong . If you don't provide the  link or data sheets...we'll all know the reason why 


 

[ROJM]

It had the UK and USA, but the 'crucial' point is the Snes was able to be a very good 2nd in those markets . In Japan the Snes outsold the Mega Drive but some 12 million units  wiping out any of the main gains for the MD in the West that's the big difference


So C'Mon either show us the sales data that shows the Mega Drive outsold the Snes on the World Stage, or just admit you can't and you're wrong . If you don't provide the  link or data sheets...we'll all know the reason why 


 

I can. I'm waiting from you to provide an up to date data sheet backing what you have siad..which i may add you have changed during the conversation in this thread numourous times to back you up.

You have not been able to. Before you said it was a close battle in america. The data sheet shows clearly it wasn't and that Sega was in the lead by a large margin. You then twisted it again saying they had europe..which wasn't even worth proving you wrong because EVERYONE knows that you are on that. Now its worldwide..and you have not been able to prove one bit of evidence from a higher source other than stupid scanlations that you have downloaded from the MM website(if its still there anymore) to back you up.
Again i thought as much..you clearly haven't anything to back you up. Just like the majority of these type of conversations from you

In other words...its a no then..you have no back up nada..
Just as i thought TA ..just as EVERYONE thought...

[ROJM]

No, The MD outsold the Snes Worldwide ..i can't prove it so i'm going to derail the topic by saying no all the time and prove it when i've shown no ounce of real evidence to back what i'm saying up.

There fixed it for you. And i take it its still sa no from you then? Just as me and JB thought...

[Team Andromeda]

So that's a no then. Thought as much *Rolls Eyes *

[MadeManG74]

*Feels bump against my shoe*
"Oh?"
*Picks up TA's eyes*
"Did you roll these across the floor? Here you go..."
*Roll's eyes back to TA*

Be sure to wash them before putting them back in.

[ROJM]

So that's a no then. Thought as much *Rolls Eyes *

Just as me and JB thought.You still got nothing.