The Top 100 SEGA Games - Discussion

[Aki-at]

Barry one thing to make a note of Sonic & Knuckles is that is actually functions as three games. The full package, Knuckles in Sonic 2 and the endless special stage in Sonic 1, but I agree to avoid the muddling that it should count as one (S3&K) game at this point.

Does anyone here have a Neogaf account ? If we host the poll there we surely can get a ton of votes.

It'd be against their rules.

[Barry the Nomad]

Yeah, I'd rather avoid getting other forums involved in that capacity as I don't want to deal with moderators or having to police another forum's lists. I'd rather people post here (it's not difficult to make an account, and they don't have to stay. George and I don't make money on traffic, so this isn't a ploy to increase visits... though if people stay for SEGA discussion the more the merrier).


Re: Knuckles in Sonic 2, I think we can just consider that to be a part of the Sonic 2 game. Doesn't need to be mentioned on lists, but it is an expansion of the game and can be deemed a version of it just as Sonic 2 iOS and 3D Sonic 2 all count toward Sonic 2. I should also note that a bad port does not invalidate a game's quality. The original iOS Sonic 1 and 2 and the GBA Sonic 1 are crap, no question, but the game itself is the focus and if the game exists in a better state then obviously we are referring to that. The core/base/original game.

[Sharky]

25. F-Zero GX
24. Comix Zone
23. Chu Chu Rocket
22. Super Monkey Ball Deluxe
21. Phantasy Star 4
20. REZ
19. Super Fantasy Zone
18. Yakuza 2
17. Sonic Colours
16. Vanquish
15. Shining Force 3
14. Streets of Rage 2
13. OutRun 2
12. Virtua Fighter 5
11. Alien: Isolation
10. Total War: Shogun 2
9. Panzer Dragoon ORTA
8. Bayonetta
7. Phantasy Star Online
6. Valkyria Chronicles
5. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
4. Panzer Dragoon Saga
3. Jet Set Radio: Future
2. Skies of Arcadia
1. Shenmue

[Barry the Nomad]

Nice first list, Sharky! Gotta say, I agree with a bulk of the selections and nice representation of all the years.

[Radrappy]

Here's mine:

25. Virtual Tennis
24. Sonic Jam
23. House of the Dead 2
22. Virtual Fighter 4
21. Sonic Colors
20. Sakura Taisen
19. Sonic and Sega Allstars Racing Transformed
18. Samba de Amigo
17. Vanquish
16. space harrier
15. Chu Chu Rocket
14. Skies of Arcadia
13. Super Monkey Ball
12. Guardian Heroes
11. Outrun
10. Jet Grind Radio
9. Phantasy Star 2
8. Virtual Fighter 2
7. Sonic 1
6. Dragon Force
5. Shenmue
4. Virtual On
3. Sonic3&Knuckles
2. Phantasy Star Online
1. Nights into Dreams

If there are some great games missing, it's because I haven't played them.  Actually going to use these lists to prioritize which great Sega games to play that I've missed out on.  I actually ran out of space really damn quickly and a few games I absolutely love didn't even make the list. 

[Phantasos]

Bayonetta 2 still sorta counts, right? Cause that game is better than the first in almost every way that counts.

[Radrappy]

Bayonetta 2 still sorta counts, right? Cause that game is better than the first in almost every way that counts.

Barry specifically singled out B2 as not qualifying but it's debatable I guess. 

[Sharky]

Nice first list, Sharky! Gotta say, I agree with a bulk of the selections and nice representation of all the years.

Thanks, there's plenty of games I'm sad I couldn't included, but all of my absolute favourites are on there.

[Barry the Nomad]

It says something about the quality of SEGA's games that even with a list of 25 we are sad to not be able to include more.

I'm currently at work on my list, hoping to post it within the week.

[EnternalHope]

Barry one thing to make a note of Sonic & Knuckles is that is actually functions as three games. The full package, Knuckles in Sonic 2 and the endless special stage in Sonic 1, but I agree to avoid the muddling that it should count as one (S3&K) game at this point.

Sonic & Knuckles Sonic 1 Special Stage Mini game and Sonic 2 with Knuckles is basically equivalent to DLC. Now S&K with Sonic 3 would count since its basically Sonic The Hedgehog 3 as the entire game.
I like to refer to Sonic 3 by itself as just "Sonic 3" and Sonic 3 & Knuckles as Sonic The Hedgehog 3.

[/size]Yeah, I'd rather avoid getting other forums involved in that capacity as I don't want to deal with moderators or having to police another forum's lists. I'd rather people post here (it's not difficult to make an account, and they don't have to stay. George and I don't make money on traffic, so this isn't a ploy to increase visits... though if people stay for SEGA discussion the more the merrier).Re: Knuckles in Sonic 2, I think we can just consider that to be a part of the Sonic 2 game. Doesn't need to be mentioned on lists, but it is an expansion of the game and can be deemed a version of it just as Sonic 2 iOS and 3D Sonic 2 all count toward Sonic 2. I should also note that a bad port does not invalidate a game's quality. The original iOS Sonic 1 and 2 and the GBA Sonic 1 are crap, no question, but the game itself is the focus and if the game exists in a better state then obviously we are referring to that. The core/base/original game.

The closest, TRUE SEGA community would be Dreamcast-Talk. They're a 99% pro Sega community.

[Moody]

25. Comix Zone
24. SEGA GT 2002
23. Sonic Jam
22. Columns
21. Virtua Cop
20. Ecco the Dolphin: Tides of Time
19. Golden Axe 3
18. Alex Kidd in Magical World
17. Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
16. OutTrigger
15. Gain Ground
14. Hang-On
13. Space Harrier
12. House of the Dead: Overkill
11. Sonic Generations
10. Crazy Taxi 2
9. Space Channel 5 Part 2
8. Shinobi (PS2)
7. Super Hang-On
6. Bonanza Brothers
5. Jet Set Radio
4. NiGHTS into Dreams...
3. Shenmue
2. Shenmue II
1. Panzer Dragoon Orta

yeehaw

[Sharky]

I never expected to see Bonanza Bros so high on anyones list! Not that I am saying you're wrong. Just surprising.

[Radrappy]

A+ on keeping the ellipses on Nights.

[Barry the Nomad]

A++ for following all the rules. B)

[Moody]

I never expected to see Bonanza Bros so high on anyones list! Not that I am saying you're wrong. Just surprising.

it's just so good honestly, like it's super simple to understand but hard as nails to get right, and i'm absolutely in love with its art style. it's just so fun

honestly it was a real tossup between either that or gain ground taking number six, but i managed to compromise

A+ on keeping the ellipses on Nights.

i'm not too much of a stickler for that sort of thing in casual, but it pisses me off when people get the name all wrong when they're otherwise all formal. same for EarthBound and MOTHER, i usually don't care, but when we're talking proper about it, i hate seeing the name typed wrong.